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parusski -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/6/2011 2:00:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: redmarkus4

Maybe after the weekend - if I start to get bored ;)

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ORIGINAL: parusski

That's selfish. Gimme the number NOW.




Bite me. Screw you guys I'm goooing home.



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/6/2011 5:25:56 PM)

OK. I'm all done. Still want the number anyone?



sillyflower -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/6/2011 6:55:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: redmarkus4

OK. I'm all done. Still want the number anyone?

You're going to be in more trouble from your wife than from Carnage



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/7/2011 5:28:22 PM)

LOL. OK gents, the game is on. TURN 1 - North-Centre.

I am fairly happy with Turn 1 north of the Pripyat. With a flurry of hasty counter marches I was able to:

1. Cut off one of the main enemy spearheads from its supply near Riga.

2. Restore supply to all major pockets.

3. Move troops by sea out of the coastal pocket into Riga, giving me a good chance of holding it through Turn 2.

Overall, I hope that these moves will have bought me a critical extra week in the north and possible also in the centre.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/7/2011 5:34:51 PM)

TURN 1 - South.

Here, I was unable to create any problems for Carnage and his vast Lvov encirclement held. I am forming a forward defense line, as indicated, with the intent of slowing the advance here for as long as possible.

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Klydon -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/7/2011 7:07:29 PM)

Not a very good open for the Germans here. Looks like Carnage has some rust to scrape off and hopefully he can do it or this is going to get ugly. Very nice job on breaking pockets and getting troops out, especially in the north. 



BletchleyGeek -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/7/2011 7:07:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: redmarkus4
I am fairly happy with Turn 1 north of the Pripyat. With a flurry of hasty counter marches I was able to:

1. Cut off one of the main enemy spearheads from its supply near Riga.


Very nice one. That will definitely buy you some time to put up a credible defense on the Pskov - Ostrov sector.

If you can find troops to spare - unlikely - it might be a good idea to deploy a couple rifle divs and a Corps HQ on Tallinn. Being a port, he'll have to launch a deliberate attack to take the city and secure the rear of his advance on Leningrad.



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/7/2011 7:15:43 PM)

Cheers gents. I have one rifle div on Tallinn already and will try to rail another there next turn. Troops are already digging in around Pskov.



kfmiller41 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/7/2011 7:54:53 PM)

Red, you do realize that any screw ups he does here he will correct while he is playing me right[&o] So try not to embarrass him to badly please[:D]

Also do you know if there is a hot key to get a full screen map without any other info? I cannot for the life of me find one.



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/8/2011 9:27:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: miller41

Red, you do realize that any screw ups he does here he will correct while he is playing me right[&o] So try not to embarrass him to badly please[:D]

Also do you know if there is a hot key to get a full screen map without any other info? I cannot for the life of me find one.


Do you mean like this? It does depend on your monitor size, I believe - smaller screens might not fit the whole map in.

Zoom out to max (Zoom 5) using the centre mouse wheel. Remove all units with the control at top left of your screen (the one with two over lapping rectangles). Print screen and paste in a paint program, if you want to save it, print or draw on it, etc.

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Empire101 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/8/2011 11:26:11 AM)

Thanks...very useful reference map.



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 4:55:42 PM)

TURN 2 - NORTH AND CENTRE

Well, the moves against the Axis supply lines on T1 had the desired effect and Carnage appears to be well behind schedule here:

1. Riga still stands.
2. I now have 2 divs and an HQ in Tallinn.
3. Although the panzers have advanced well beyond Minsk, my pocketed troops only lost supply this turn and still have the potential to interfere with the advance of AGC.

See next post for details on the fighting around Minsk.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 4:58:13 PM)

TURN 2 - THE BATTLE OF MINSK

Carnage is attempting to race East, but he needs to focus on clearing up the pockets of Soviets in his rear, or he will pay the price.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 5:03:58 PM)

TURN 2 - SOUTH

The Axis opted to swing the bulk of their armour South in an attempt to pocket the Soviet troops along the Romanian frontier. I have been able to extract the bulk of my forces from the threatened pocket and also isolate at least two Panzer divisions. I almost isolated two more, but a single hex still links them to their supply lines. (See next post for a zoomed in view).

However, I should have bought myself another week here.

The main question arising is whether this move by Carnage indicates an intention to swing into the Crimea and across the straights at Kerch in 1941? I will move troops to defend against that prospect on the next turn.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 5:08:42 PM)

TURN 2 - THE BATTLE OF KISHINEV

This image shows more detail of my counter moves to cut the panzers off from their supply around Kishinev. Carnage has left the city unoccupied but I lacked the MP to re-take it. However, he has clearly over extended here and may be more cautious after the experience of being cut off twice in two turns. I need him to be cautious and to give me time to organize a defense.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 5:31:54 PM)

My brave fighters in the Pripyat took this little supply convoy clerk as their prisoner. After several shots of vodka and much sweet talk, they managed to get her to disclose intelligence suggesting that Carnage will indeed head for the Crimea.

As to the fate of the clerk, well let's just say that her Russian is improving by leaps and bounds!

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timmyab -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 7:47:20 PM)

Pretty sloppy start in the North and South from Carnage it has to be said.
Riga not taken nor the Northern port in Latvia, pockets not secured, the river not crossed in strength, how much worse can it be?I think you possibly could have taken a more aggresive stance in the North to contest his freedom of movement in Estonia.If Axis players don't get across the river on turn one they pose very little threat to Pskov and lose the initiative right from the start.I expect you know this already, but if you can reconvert those hexes on your side of the river, it's a right pain for him.Not always possible I know.
I think he made a mistake in not tearing up the first Stalin line forts West of Proskurov.
I've not seen anyone go that far South on turn two before.It would be a very intersting tactic if it was properly executed.I wonder why he didn't move any of his units in Rumania?



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/9/2011 10:33:11 PM)

House rule at the top of the thread explains the lack of movement by the Romanians, but that rule also weakens the effect of the southward lunge, so I agree with you. Anyway, there are still plenty of chances for me to screw up, so I am not breathing easy just yet.

I'll do what you suggest with the aggressive posture in the north if you can send me a few more divisions ;)



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/12/2011 10:15:07 AM)

TURN 3 - NORTH

In the north it looks as though Carnage plans on taking the northernmost route to Leningrad. I am holding Tallinn in strength and have pushed the reserves I have over to slow his advance. I don't want to strip away troops from Pskov if I can avoid it, as he may push in that direction next turn and I have a good position there.

Novgorod and Leningrad itself still need to be much better defended, so that's going to be one priority for T4.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/12/2011 10:21:05 AM)

TURN 3 - CENTRE

Not a great deal of movement here this turn. I am trying to build a defensive line and I still have pocketed troops able to move around the enemy's rear areas. I am trying to keep them astride the rail routes, just in case that slows the rail repair effort.

[image]local://upfiles/27287/00E9316C4AAE47C38CAA1892C87ED08E.jpg[/image]



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/12/2011 10:26:52 AM)

TURN 3 - SOUTH

Here Carnage has attempted to swing his armour east, possibly intending to make a sickle cut up towards the Dnepr crossings, with a view to creating a large pocket.

I have again managed to cut off two Axis armoured divisions (one SS and one Romanian) and almost cut off two others.

I have pulled the bulk of my forces back and shifted a large number to sit on the northern shoulder of the main Axis thrust. If Carnage tries to reach for the Dnepr I should be able to inject mobile forces into his flank.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/13/2011 12:23:37 PM)

I hope Carnage sticks with it and doesn't let his early reverses put him off the game. Berlin or Moscow!



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/16/2011 7:33:53 PM)

Turn 4 - very little to report this turn. I have pulled back towards Kiev and straightened the line in front of the Dnepr. Carnage has not make any significant moves in the center or north, probably reorganizing before hitting me on Turn 5.

Factory moves are ongoing and I was able to move everything out of Mogilev, which is a first for me.



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/17/2011 9:18:44 AM)

TURN 4 NORTH


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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/17/2011 9:21:05 AM)

TURN 4 CENTRE

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/17/2011 9:23:14 AM)

TURN 4 SOUTH.

Note the small Axis pocket in the SW.

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sillyflower -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/17/2011 10:31:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: redmarkus4

TURN 4 SOUTH.

Note the small Axis pocket in the SW.

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What I don't understand is why you don't just let yourself be captured by that Tiger's crew



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/18/2011 8:49:06 AM)

Because I heard there's a whole division of them heading my way, so I'm waiting to be completely surrounded before I drop my weapon [:D]



Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/20/2011 9:48:33 AM)

TURN 5 - North

Limited activity here this turn. Carnage must be building up supply for a big push next turn.

I generally don't fly recon this early in the war, as the Soviets would have had limited capabilities at this stage.

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Redmarkus5 -> RE: Operation Barbershop II (Carnage vs. Redmarkus) (8/20/2011 9:51:19 AM)

TURN 5 - CENTRE

Carnage has made one big push towards Smolensk. I am defending in depth but will need to start digging in around Moscow on the next turn.

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