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derp -> RE: Eastern Fleet (4/11/2012 5:15:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

I am highly concerned about anymore Allied ships to the OOB. What we have already allowed is a pretty large boost in strength as well as numbers. Stanislav is back at work on the Mod so we have forward motion. No idea much past that...



* The ships were there - noone's waving any wands around and conjuring them up out of thin air;
* Work through this logical chain with me; it seems superficially sensible:

- The main driver for the movement of German submarines to the South Atlantic and then the Indian Ocean was the desire to seek targets that weren't so dangerous to attack that doing so wasn't more harmful to the submarine than to the target -> the retention of most of the French navy in the Med and Atlantic is going to put the kibosh on the submarine campaign not insignificantly earlier than would otherwise be the case -> German submarines are liable to appear in the Indian Ocean earlier and in greater numbers than would otherwise be the case.

I dunno how many, mind you, but considering that the time they'd be sent out is right before the wide provision of LR patrol aircraft and escort carriers make even transit by German submarines dangerous...



derp -> RE: Ministry of Aircraft Production (4/11/2012 5:36:25 PM)

This post was going to be a big smug one about how I'd figured out how you can do gradual increases in production of particular aircraft types. Then I thought about it a bit more and came to the conclusion that, while the idea (use 'production chit' aircraft to switch factories over to specific already-in-production types at the appropriate time) is great and works perfectly etc it'd be far less work (and far more transparent) to just make some monthly aircraft "convoys" instead. So, uh, I'm just gonna do that.

A little later tonight or tomorrow the 'final' Commonwealth aircraft chart will go here...



DOCUP -> RE: Ministry of Aircraft Production (4/29/2012 5:59:14 PM)

So any thoughts on how to do the US aircraft.  I know someone mentioned the P39 with a 2 stage turbocharger.  Also what about replacements now that the Med is quiet.  I think a few more P38s and P40s would show up as replacements.



MateDow -> RE: Ministry of Aircraft Production (5/18/2012 1:50:56 PM)

Is there any other help needed for the naval side of things?

My read is that it is pretty much squared away, but I am willing to help if some is needed. Just let me know what.



RevRick -> RE: Ministry of Aircraft Production (5/23/2012 4:36:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DOCUP

So any thoughts on how to do the US aircraft.  I know someone mentioned the P39 with a 2 stage turbocharger.  Also what about replacements now that the Med is quiet.  I think a few more P38s and P40s would show up as replacements.


I think it was I that suggested the two stage supercharge for the P-39. It was designed for one, but the prevailing (hide-bound) thinking of the air corps was that the best use for fighters was not engaging other fighters, and that the P-39 would be employed supporting troops. I played around, and tried to work up numbers which might reflect the building of some of them as the P-400 with performance near the P-63, and have it in small numbers at the beginning of the war. More facile brains than mine would have to really work out what the difference would have been should the Army Air Corps not sit on its collective brains.



DOCUP -> RE: Ministry of Aircraft Production (6/12/2012 4:12:28 PM)

Any new or updates?



Commander Stormwolf -> RE: Ministry of Aircraft Production (6/12/2012 5:32:56 PM)


P-39 as it was designed looked something like this..



[image]local://upfiles/28382/CF95BD4A79494E0C9A4EFF1C32F2B166.jpg[/image]



Jo van der Pluym -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (6/16/2012 12:03:06 PM)

Hi

Is there all a date for the release of the first version?



DOCUP -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (7/9/2012 9:26:41 PM)

Bump?



DOCUP -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (7/10/2012 2:18:24 PM)

Don't know if this mod has been put on hold or canned but I will try to start a discussion here. 

If we go from the POV of the battle for North Africa didn't happen, what would the US AC replacments look like? 

Also what about adding the P 39s with the turbro charged engines and having a trickle of replacements?



DOCUP -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (7/21/2012 5:52:17 PM)

Any updates?



DOCUP -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (7/28/2012 1:05:05 PM)

So is this mod dead?



oldman45 -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (7/29/2012 4:54:00 AM)

My impression is the battle does happen, things just happened sooner. So the AF is still sending the planes, so not sure that there would be any changes to the OOB for the pacific.



DOCUP -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (8/4/2012 1:30:36 AM)

Your probably right oldman.  More replacements might go towards the Pacific thought.  So what about making the P400's into the P39s with superchargers.  Have like a squadron of them and a small replacement rate, till 43 or so.  Add some more replacements for some of the late war AC.  I haven't made it there yet, so I might be missing the boat on this one.  What I am talking about is when the P47s stop for several months.  Also if the war goes on into 46 or so.  We would of prob seen more of the late war AC.  Due to the war in Europe being over and changing production to better AC.

Has anyone looked at the changes to ships that RevRick is doing in one of the threads.  Sounds nice for some of the old US BBs.  Might make them somewhat usefull.



MateDow -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (8/20/2012 12:57:17 AM)

I think that there should be some additional planes for the Dutch squadrons as well. I always seem to have some squadrons that survive with pilots, but no way to give them planes. It would be nice if there were some planes to represent the fact that the US/British would have provided replacement airframes to surviving squadrons. If the squadrons don't survive, it isn't a big deal.



Jo van der Pluym -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (8/22/2012 2:36:33 PM)

The thread is now all more then a year old. Is there all a date when we can expect the first release of The Perfect War Mod.



oldman45 -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (8/22/2012 4:53:44 PM)

Mate, I went into the editor and just gave the dutch squadrons an upgrade to allied planes. If any survive in late 42 they start getting allied cast offs.



Jo van der Pluym -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (8/22/2012 5:02:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: oldman45

Mate, I went into the editor and just gave the dutch squadrons an upgrade to allied planes. If any survive in late 42 they start getting allied cast offs.


Are there also changes in the Dutch land oob as example Korps Insulinde?

And i had also suggest the following see link

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2884097&mpage=2&key=�



Terrion -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (2/13/2013 2:41:20 AM)

/Delurk

So, I noticed there was discussion earlier about adding in some ships that were historically canceled. As it happens, I have a list of USN ships (other than the BBs, which I assume everyone knows about) that were cancelled due to VJ-day. I'm not sure how far along most of them were, but maybe someone can use it as a starting point:

CV:
Ticonderoga-class: (8) USS Reprisal, USS Iwo Jima, 6 Unnamed
Midway-Class: 2 unnamed

CVE:
Commencement Bay-class: (18) USS Bastogne, USS Eniwotek, USS Lingayen, USS Okinawa, USS Rabaul (Launched 14 June 45, not commissioned), USS Tinian (Launched 5 September 45, not commissioned), 12 Unnamed

CA:
Oregon Class-class: (7) USS Northamption(II) (eventually completed as a command ship), USS Cambridge, USS Bridgeport, USS Kansas City, USS Tulsa, USS Norfolk, USS Scranton
Des Moines-class: (8) USS Dallas, 7 Unnamed

CL:
Cleveland-Class: (2) USS Youngstown, USS Galveston
Fargo-class: (6) USS Newark, USS Buffalo, USS Wilmington, USS Tallahassee, USS Cheyenne, USS Chattanooga
Worcester-class: (2) USS Vallejo, USS Gary
CL-154-class: 6 unnamed

DD:
Gearing-class: (53) USS Charles H. Roan, USS Timmerman, USS Robert Owens, USS Castle, USS Woodrow Thompson, USS Seymour Owens, USS Abner Read, USS Landsdale, USS Seaman, 44 unnamed

SS
Tench-class: (11) USS Makaira, USS Narcine, USS Texgon, USS Banta, USS Charoca, USS Lucifer, USS Pompano (II), USS Grayling (II), USS Needlefish, USS Sculpin (II), USS Wahoo (II)
Balao-class: USS Turbot, USS Ulua
SS-551-class: 12 unnamed



John 3rd -> RE: The Perfect War Mod (2/13/2013 7:29:20 AM)

Thanks for the info Sir. FatR and I have had this Mod on hold due to mutual life issues over the last six months. It is my hope that we can return to this and finish the work that so many people have contributed to.



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