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Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (11/24/2015 8:07:44 PM)

Doccup is really making a mess of the whole Marcus Island situation. What he really needed to have done was prepare a fresh invasion force and land it all at once. This piecemeal reinforcement is doing more harm than good.

And it seems to me that Doccup is preparing landing on an island near Shimushiri-jima to establish some LBA in the region. No other options make sense to me; I can't imagine it will be a reinforcement of Shimushiri-jima because you've already heavily reinforced your defenses. I have to say I really do not like Doccup's timid firepower strategies. He should have brought in his fast CVs to strike your key AFs in the region at the same time before you could react. Only Paramushiro-jima was smashed which is not enough. This may be yet another opportunity to smash the Allied fleets in a battle where all the LBA is going to be on your side.




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (11/25/2015 4:54:22 AM)

Docup defiantly bring hammer this time. I already confirmed 1000+ enemy planes on carriers. But this is not over. I see two more AC TFs that i have low DL on them.
It can be another 1000+ planes or more.
It is not good time to send KB. This is time to retreat everything from see surface back to main island. This is not that i am afraid but i feel this is not right time to carrier clash.


I suspecting 4 options what Docup is doing.

1.He try reinforce Shimushiri-jima. Probably worst chose. I have 2000AV on island with fort 5 and 2x terrain. Even if he capture that island it will cost him to much i believe.
But it is passable that Docup think i have ~1000AV on island. Last time Docup or I use LCUs was when Jap garrison was ~1000AV. And from that moment I dont fight to avoid giving Docup intel about defenders.

2.He only want resupply Shimushiri-jima. His boys must be low on supplies. Month of constant air bombing must burn lot of supplies.

3.He want to land on different island to capture AF and with use of LBA win local air superiority. Itwill also not be easy. All island around have decent garrisons 500-600AV behind fort 6. So no easy to capture.

4.He want to provoke KB and decimate it in carrier battle.

PS. I am sending 20 subs to area. They will star hunting tommarow. All surface fllet will reatret. This time i will give initiative to Docup. I cant stop him from Doing point 1-3 but i can hold my boys and avoid point 4








PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (11/25/2015 12:30:32 PM)

Get your LBA geared up ... depending upon where he goes you may get a chance ...




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (11/30/2015 3:13:08 PM)

Just to avoid page 2
Fast summary

13-14 April 1945

Docup keeping small AC TF in Marcus island. He don`t land fresh troops. But allied AV is reduced to 96 and Docup have two IDs on island. 41st Infantry Division is 0AV, 40st Infantry Division is 90AV, and TD battalion is 6AV.[:)] Japanise AV 260. I sending also light 250AV ID to Marcus. It is time to push allies back to see.

Allies unload new invasion at Ketoi-jima. 1300AV land last turn. 5th Marine Div confirmed.
Japanese AV 620AV.
KB in full alert. Bad news is that i lost contact with allied DS. I only see CVE TFs in Ketoi-jima hex.
I em prepping KB. If allies move back for few days with fleet i will try to sneak fresh ID to island to reinforce garrison.

Because of lack of time we slowing game speed. I think we will be able to play 3-4 turn weekly maybe 5. Docup have family and all that stuff around it. I need to focus on work




Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (11/30/2015 5:20:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu
Allies unload new invasion at Ketoi-jima. 1300AV land last turn. 5th Marine Div confirmed.
Japanese AV 620AV.
KB in full alert. Bad news is that i lost contact with allied DS. I only see CVE TFs in Ketoi-jima hex.
I em prepping KB. If allies move back for few days with fleet i will try to sneak fresh ID to island to reinforce garrison.

Well it seems Doccup did exactly what I predicted and landed near Shimushiri-jima to try to gain a base to support his beleaguered troops. But I think Doccup needs 2000+ AV to take the island given your forts and ability to reinforce it; a 2 to 1 edge is not enough. Now he could the prospect of yet another landing mirred on the beaches with no supporting LBA able to turn the tides. Things are only getting worse for the Allies it seems, not better.

If the Allied DS is gone then this is a perfect opportunity to defeat his CVEs with an 8 strike hex on Ketoi-Jima. Losing track of the DS is not so bad; if you take the right approach it should be impossible for the DS to sneak up on the KB without warning.




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/4/2015 5:26:44 AM)

15 April 1945

Allies still keeping small DS (250 planes) in Marcus Island. I think Docup want to blockade island. It can work for him as i am not able to reinforce or resupply base without KB commitment. I was trying two days ago to transfer some supply and troops by air, it cost me 33 transport planes[:(]


North pacific again intensive. Allies unloading in Ketoi-jima and Shimushiri-jima.
On second island allied troops have 1900AV but Docup unload last turn more guns. He have now almost 2000 of them[X(]. Not sure how big is Ketoi-jima attack force but i suspecting it can be close to 2000AV now.

Still not sign of DS but they must be close because he have CAP over fleet.

Over 400 planes DS in Ketoi-jima hex. I try today to move against them. 130 planes lost, allies lost 40 fighters. F6F have difficult time to CAP against A7M2, J2M5 Ki-84r escort. Don`t know if this is pilot quality But so far allies losing more fighters than me when I am attacking DS.

PT boats and subs i have in area sunk 5-7 enemy ships. Sadly only cargo ships and 3 AKA, APA ships.

I do math today. If needed KB will be able to send 870 planes in air. 3 carriers (150 planes) still in repair








PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/4/2015 10:13:54 AM)

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veji1 -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/4/2015 12:25:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu


Over 400 planes DS in Ketoi-jima hex. I try today to move against them. 130 planes lost, allies lost 40 fighters. F6F have difficult time to CAP against A7M2, J2M5 Ki-84r escort. Don`t know if this is pilot quality But so far allies losing more fighters than me when I am attacking DS.



It' everything combined : he has low quality, low morale, you airframes are just as good if not better, you have high experience (for this stage) japanese pilots, etc...

You have repeatedly eviscerated his Navy airforce, not surprising it can't cope with what you got.




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/4/2015 12:44:26 PM)

Speaking about pilot xp.
Worst figter pilot in KB is 80xp. Those are elite pilots most of them fly over 200 missions.

It is much worst with bomber pilots. I have some 60-70xp but most of them is 50xp not bad but there is huge hit ratio difference comparing with prewar KB pilots




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/4/2015 1:34:29 PM)

This is a good example of why the allies should always have a 2nd force ready and prepped if the first one canīt get the job done!

If a critical landing I often had a full Corps ready as a 2nd wave. At least for places like the Okinawas and Mindanao. You HAVE to secure that critical beachhead and do it fast. If you get stuck you can easily loose months and months.





koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 4:34:42 PM)

Next turn trailer

The Empire strikes back




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 4:40:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu

Next turn trailer

The Empire strikes back


I have a hunch but Iīll make some popcorn anyway! [:D]

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Lowpe -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 4:46:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu

Next turn trailer

The Empire strikes back


When has the other side hit first?




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 4:55:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu

Next turn trailer

The Empire strikes back


When has the other side hit first?


Empire do not need cause to strikes back. Empire is doing what want




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 5:11:24 PM)

16 April 1945

At begin summary of plan.

I have decided that I cant allow Docup to land without resistance.
Last two days almost 40 PT boats ans 20 subs was disturbing allied unloading while LBA planes where stinging ailed CAP.

Both ships and planes do not achieve much in destroying allied forces but they do two major things. Ships slow unload long enough to force him to stay in landing zone for 3 days while planes force allied pilots to fight for two intensive days building havoc and fatigue among them

3th day i decided to use main force (KB).
860 deck planes and ~1100+ LBA planes ordered to attack.

I place almost 250 bombers and 300 fighters on islands ńear Ketoi-jima. Because i suspected that main punch will go against ships there i ordered most of fighters to LCAP above island, remaining fighters get order to escort bombers.

Another 300 bombers and 150 long range fighters was ordered to strike from fields from Hokkaido.

KB move at flank speed from Japan with order to take position East of Hokkaido 8 hexes from Ketoi-jima. On deck 400 fighters and 460 bombers. In case of enemy counterattack KB get 250 fighter support from Hokkaido.






koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 5:17:09 PM)

In night lot of naval engagement forcing allied TF to stop unloading. Nothing major to report. Not a single enemy ship was hit.

More actions at day when PT boats find few not escorted TF. Also subs have luck

Submarine attack near Onnekotan-jima at 138,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-176

Allied Ships
LST-70, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shimushiri-jima at 132,51, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-152
MTB G-154
MTB G-159, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
MTB G-161
MTB G-162, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
MTB G-163
MTB G-165
MTB G-221
MTB G-222

Allied Ships
xAK Benjamin H. Grierson, Shell hits 2
xAK Christy Mathewson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Edward Livingston, Shell hits 2
xAK Edwin M. Stanton, Shell hits 2
xAK Ephraim W. Baughman, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-7
MTB G-545
MTB G-881
MTB G-882
MTB G-884, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

Allied Ships
LST-204
LST-207, Shell hits 1
LST-247
LST-248, Shell hits 1
LST-249
LST-268, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-269, Shell hits 1
LST-270, Shell hits 1
LST-271, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-272, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
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Submarine attack near Onnekotan-jima at 137,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-176

Allied Ships
xAK Sharon Victory, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 5:31:44 PM)

Day was intensive. I will only show major engagements.

As suspected first attack come from bombers from island. Lucky not only they where escorted but also LCAP engage enemy CAP. Still first number of allied CAP not looking good for me.

LCAP/Escort combo work well. Lower escort fighters where magnets for enemy CAP while Japanese LCAP fighter get chance to dive.

AM phase now.


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 186 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 69 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 29
J2M5 Jack x 19
N1K2-J George x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 34
Ki-84r Frank x 13
Ki-115b Tsurugi x 31

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 7
Seafire L.III x 21
FM-2 Wildcat x 34
F4U-1A Corsair x 41
F4U-1D Corsair x 62
F6F-3 Hellcat x 163
F6F-5 Hellcat x 104

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-115b Tsurugi: 23 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 155 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 57 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 8
N1K2-J George x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 29
Ki-84r Frank x 5
Ki-115b Tsurugi x 25

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 7
Seafire L.III x 21
FM-2 Wildcat x 34
F4U-1A Corsair x 38
F4U-1D Corsair x 74
F6F-3 Hellcat x 154
F6F-5 Hellcat x 100

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-115b Tsurugi: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-84a Frank x 29

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 7
Seafire L.III x 20
FM-2 Wildcat x 33
F4U-1A Corsair x 39
F4U-1D Corsair x 60
F6F-3 Hellcat x 148
F6F-5 Hellcat x 89

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 9 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 8
N1K2-J George x 20
Ki-115b Tsurugi x 8

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 21
Seafire L.III x 20
FM-2 Wildcat x 31
F4U-1A Corsair x 38
F4U-1D Corsair x 54
F6F-3 Hellcat x 140
F6F-5 Hellcat x 85

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-115b Tsurugi: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Breton

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 28
Ki-115b Tsurugi x 3

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 20
Seafire L.III x 19
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F4U-1A Corsair x 35
F4U-1D Corsair x 47
F6F-3 Hellcat x 134
F6F-5 Hellcat x 71

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-115b Tsurugi: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire L.III: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed




Enemy CAP do good job holding my boys. But i was happy with resould. It is not wisible in text report. But when last wave arrive many from allied CAP was out of position. Lesst that 50% of enemy figters was able to fight.

Now time for KB strike

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 222
B7A2 Grace x 105
D4Y4 Judy x 134

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 20
Seafire L.III x 16
FM-2 Wildcat x 26
F4U-1A Corsair x 31
F4U-1D Corsair x 39
F6F-3 Hellcat x 110
F6F-5 Hellcat x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 18 destroyed, 11 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y4 Judy: 69 destroyed, 6 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Breton
CVE Cape Esperance, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Marcus Island, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Nehenta Bay, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVE Block Island, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CVE Stalker
CVE Commencement Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Kasaan Bay, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Takanis Bay
CVE Ranee, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVE Ameer, Bomb hits 1
CVE Admiralty Island, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Ommaney Bay, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DE J. Douglas Blackwood
CVE Bougainville
CVE Attu, Bomb hits 3, on fire








koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 5:41:07 PM)

I was hooping for Good PM phase. KB have still bigg bomber wing and bombers from Hokkaido don`t fly on morning.

Again bombers from Island launch and only few get trough

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 59 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 31
J2M5 Jack x 22
N1K2-J George x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-115b Tsurugi x 30

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 6
Seafire L.III x 17
FM-2 Wildcat x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 21
F4U-1D Corsair x 30
F6F-3 Hellcat x 71
F6F-5 Hellcat x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-115b Tsurugi: 16 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Petrof Bay
CVE Kwajalein
CVE Ameer, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Takanis Bay, Kamikaze hits 1
CVE Ranee, on fire


Finally some bombers from Hokkaido join combat.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
N1K2-J George x 9
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 135
Ki-83 x 46

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 6
Seafire L.III x 17
FM-2 Wildcat x 14
F4U-1A Corsair x 24
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-3 Hellcat x 65
F6F-5 Hellcat x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 43 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 destroyed by flak
Ki-83: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Bougainville
CVE Takanis Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Ameer, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Kasaan Bay, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Attu
CVE Ranee, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Stalker, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Petrof Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Just after them second KB strike. Look at enemy CAP numbers and how many fighters allies lose against fighters on escort mission

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ketoi-jima at 134,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 152 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 220
B7A2 Grace x 181

Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 4
Seafire L.III x 11
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F4U-1A Corsair x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 35
F6F-5 Hellcat x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 6 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 28 destroyed, 19 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
Seafire L.III: 5 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 8 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Striker, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Kwajalein
CVE Saginaw Bay, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVE Attu, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Ranee, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Stalker, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Takanis Bay, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE J. Douglas Blackwood
CVE Bougainville
CVE Ameer, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CLAA Black Prince
CVE Breton, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DE Richard S. Bull
DE Greenwood, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Marcus Island, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
DE Earl V. Johnson, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DE Holton











koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 5:41:44 PM)

Summarize enemy CVE loses

CVE Cape Esperance, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Marcus Island, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Nehenta Bay, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVE Block Island, Bomb hits 3, heavy fire
CVE Commencement Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Kasaan Bay, Torpedo hits 3 and is sunk
CVE Ranee, Bomb hits 3,Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Ameer, Bomb hits 1, Kamikaze hits 2, Torpedo hits 1 on fire, and is sunk
CVE Admiralty Island, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Ommaney Bay, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Attu, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CVE Takanis Bay, Bomb hits 2 Kamikaze hits 1 Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Stalker, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
CVE Petrof Bay, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Striker, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Saginaw Bay, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVE Breton, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage


Plane loses
Allies lost 250 fighters - 230 of them in a2a combat[8D]
Japan lost only 140 fighters and 500 bombers (260pilots KIA, 200 WIA)





koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 5:51:46 PM)

And map


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Lowpe -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 7:43:42 PM)

What superlative play.[&o]




witpqs -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 8:08:01 PM)

Diabolical plan superbly executed! [&o]




Sangeli -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 9:07:39 PM)

Nicely done! Not to say I didn't expect anything less from you here. If there is one thing that should be clear, its that you simply CANNOT rely on CVEs to protect you against the KB for an invasion. You are just asking to be hit from an 8 strike hex because the Japanese know exactly what hex you're going to be. Only way for the Allies to do such an invasion is to have fast CV TF that can close with the KB and strike it while its planes go after the CVEs.

This game is somehow becoming more one sided every day [&:]




PaxMondo -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 11:18:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

What superlative play.[&o]

+1

[&o][&o][&o]

More than 1/2 of those CVE's are going to sink, no matter the allied repair capabilities. WOW!




zuluhour -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/5/2015 11:43:36 PM)

AFB reaction....[X(]




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/6/2015 6:34:58 AM)

Wow, well done! [&o]

Amazed DOCUP can keep his motivation up. How is the VP score?




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/6/2015 6:37:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Wow, well done! [&o]

Amazed DOCUP can keep his motivation up. How is the VP score?


J:63k
A:55k




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/6/2015 7:05:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu
J:63k
A:55k


Looks like you will be the first JFB (that I know of) that wins the game this late! [&o]




koniu -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/6/2015 7:13:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu
J:63k
A:55k


Looks like you will be the first JFB (that I know of) that wins the game this late! [&o]


Only because most of allied player when find them selfs in situation Docup was late `43 early `44 just threw in the towel. Docup decide to continue game and here he deserve respect




JocMeister -> RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) (12/6/2015 7:22:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: koniu
Only because most of allied player when find them selfs in situation Docup was late `43 early `44 just threw in the towel. Docup decide to continue game and here he deserve respect


I didnīt throw in the towel. [:)]

But I never suffered any big setbacks after 43 that Docup has though. I probably would have given up if I did. [X(]




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