Rafo35 -> RE: New Public Beta Available for WitE v1.05.18 (9/14/2011 1:34:07 PM)
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Here are the numbers for the germans I found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Military_Casualties_by_branch_of_service They had roughly 17 Million ground + Luftwaffe units (+ unknown numbers of Volkssturm + Soviet citizens in German military service), minus the 3,2 Million they start with and the losses from earlier campaigns + troops that fought in other theaters (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_II) : 1,5 Million from 1944-45), so, maybe 12-13 Million served at the eastern front all together. To reach these numbers the germans would require 9-10 Million reserves from their manpower pool while the game is only giving them (with an estimated hold of 3800 manpower sources throughout the game) 5,9 Million. The Wechmacht don't start Barbarossa with 3,2 million men, the Ostsheer does. In spring 41, there was already more than 7 million german in uniform. It's the same for the 1,5 million in the west in 44-45 : I am almost sure you only include army unit. quote:
Whats more, the first source I quoted is putting 10 Mio of the drafted 30 Mio soviets into: "Discharged during war-Includes those sent on sick leave, those sent to industry, NKVD or foreign units and 437,000 imprisoned after sentencing", which is an important point to remember. Factories require workers, not every drafted man was send to the frontline, in that sense the soviet reinforcements seems excessive. And the germans? Used roughly 12-15 million slave labor from occupied countries, so most of their drafted numbers did indeed serve in the army. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II) The calcul is harder than that. Germany used a lot of ineffective and starving manpower in agriculture and in various industrial project (not even counting the purely genocide business) that weren't necessary to the Russian. Because of 1/ lend-lease, 2/ not having a 2 front war, 3/ not lacking any kind of raw material (by far the worst pb of the German economy) and 4/ being incredibly harsh with its own people, the economy of Russia needed a loss less manpower to produce the same amount of weapons.
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