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Attack -> Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/19/2011 12:56:21 PM)

Playing as soviet, I´m in turn 46, end of april of 42, rain. My vehicle production is: 670 vehicles/turn in 67 factory vehicles (no problem with the supply), plus the lend-lease (800)

But in every turn, only to feed my troops, I´m loosing 2.700 vehicles every turn, without moving my units, and before to form mechanized corps. That means minus 1.200 vehicles/turn, before moving. I didn´t create new units.

In turn 27, on 1.04, I had 1.400 vehicles produced in 140 factories. What appened with my factories? [&:]

I know that the Russians have problems with the trucks, but before the end of the game I´ll have zero vehicles. I think that I didn´t lose any vehicle factory during the summer of 41 year.

Ah! In 42 turn, in event screen I´ve 64 factories (no supply problems); in production screen I´ve 140 factories.




Jakerson -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 11:05:34 AM)

You can conserve use of vehicles by moving part of your troops in reserve. I mean away from front line and deploy them over fixed rail lines behind the lines.

You can also convert part of frontline static it also saves vehicles, reduce offensive operations (this reduce need for fuel and ammo transportation and vehicle fatigue caused by moving units).   Extreme methods for saving vehicles is set part of mechanized and tank corps static and even disbanding troops.   If you want to make big offensive operations you have to conserve use of vehicles. Soviet have to manage vehicle pool.



Attack -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 12:44:59 PM)

Yes, I know that. But because in "Event log" I´ve 67 vehicles factories (no problems of supply) and in "production screen" I´ve 140?

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Attack -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 12:45:51 PM)

And check it. I simply can´t understand it.

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Q-Ball -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 5:24:42 PM)

In 1943, Lend Lease is 4500 Vehicles a turn. Until then, you will run a deficit. In 1944, it's 6,000 a turn, at which point you can probably build whatever you want.

The Red Army has a big vehcile problem in 1942. There are few things you can do:

1. Try not to lose too many Tank and Motorized divisions in 1941.
2. Disband some Tank Brigades; you will probably have about 100 or so. You probably don't have the tanks for that many until later in 1942, and you don't have the vehicles to convert them all to Tank Corps. The Red Army just can't support 100 full-strength Tank Brigades.
3. Limit use of Tank SUs; this one is tough to swallow, as I personally love Tank SUs.
4. Hold off on Mech Corps until 1943

IMO, you need to get tanks out of the pool and into the field at some point, because they are a great firepower multiplier for your MEN. I suspect Manpower will be more of a problem for the Soviets, so Tanks are a great way to stretch Manpower. But you need Vehciles to support the tanks.



Attack -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 6:22:55 PM)

Thanks, Q-ball, your reponse helps me a lot.[:)]

Still I´ve not vehicles problem, in april 42 I´m at 172K (110K), but I calculated that with -2K every turn I´d have problems in 44 year.

Anyway, I don´t understand why if I´ve 140 factories, only work 67 [&:]





Jakerson -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 7:16:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Attack

Thanks, Q-ball, your reponse helps me a lot.[:)]

Still I´ve not vehicles problem, in april 42 I´m at 172K (110K), but I calculated that with -2K every turn I´d have problems in 44 year.

Anyway, I don´t understand why if I´ve 140 factories, only work 67 [&:]





Soviet vehicle production peaks at 41 and drops -45% at 42-45 it propably has some historical reasons.

You get most of vehicles from lend lease and it increase each year until 45 it drops. I think that number of vehicles from Lend lease is nerfed because of German Fan boys whining so expect to have harder time maintaining vehicle pool.

Manual says these numbers:
1941 500
1942 1000
1943 3000
1944 4000
1945 1000

I remember lend lease vehicle numbers being larger before that these figures.



Q-Ball -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/20/2011 8:41:12 PM)

Manual is wrong; Lead Lease was INCREASED, not decreased. But it's less in 1942, more in 43/44 than it used to be. It's something like:

500
800
4500
6000
1500



Bourguignon -> RE: Soviet vehicles in 1.05 (9/21/2011 11:13:09 PM)

thx for this post
it helps
do you know if placing HQ units in railroad hex decrease the loss of trucks?



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