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vettim89 -> RE: Aftermath (3/19/2012 3:43:53 AM)
14 October 1942 Originally I was upset that I had my DB on rest, but after thinking about it I think the surprise factor was better for me. Three xAP ate 1-3 1000 lb bombs and you can see what happened to Haguro. Is three penetrating 1000 lbers enough. She is a LONG way from Koepang which would be the nearest IJN port. I admire Larry for his attempt at Strategic Surprise here. If Exmouth had not been developed, he could have grabbed it easily. I do wonder where his carriers are. Why try this without his CVs? Hmmmmm. A Inf RGT has been FastTran'd to Erromango which is just north of Tanna's AB should go to level 5 next turn. I have over 100 fighters at Auckland that need moving up. Once fighters are at Tanna I will move ENG and AV Support to Erro. Then I have to decide how many bases around Luganville I need to develop before moving [image]local://upfiles/25806/94FAA05B3DF04788989EFF9795D34C04.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Aftermath (3/19/2012 6:42:03 PM)
15 -16 October 1942 Posting from work so doing this by memory. Screenies later On the 15th, LBA takes out an APD, an xAP, and finishes off the damged xP from the 14th. The lands a small fragment of 8th ID/C. At first I was surprised LArry pushed on, but then I figured he tried to get the troops off those sinking ships where ever he could land them. Disappointed that only one A-24 sq only flew in the PM phase. The other didn't fly at all On the 16th, my SCTF tangled with Oi and four DDs. Oi was sunk and a DD damaged vs one CA with minor damage and one DD with moderate damage. My commander wisely kept the range at 7k to 9k to avoid TT waters. LBA only flew one mission off NW Oz which was only two A-24 that flew against Shoho which appeared suddenly alone except for a meager escort. A full 32 plane strike would have taken her out, but alas the two big strikes got lost :due to range or weather". I forgot to mention Larry landed an Inf BGD and a SNLF at Broome which will likely fall next turn. Lastly Lexington made port finally. Immediately into yard for repairs and three upgrades: June, August, and October.

vettim89 -> RE: Aftermath (3/19/2012 10:20:15 PM)
The combat at Exmouth. Pretty sure Oi sank. Combat text included - note the ranges Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 50,129, Range 7,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Oi, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Hagikaze DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 1 DD Suzukaze Allied Ships CA Louisville CA Pensacola CA Australia CA Canberra, Shell hits 1 CL Leander CL Achilles DD Whipple DD Peary DD Pillsbury DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 192 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 42% moonlight: 8,000 yards Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 12,000 yards... Range closes to 9,000 yards... Range closes to 7,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 7,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 7,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Pensacola at 7,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Australia at 7,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages CA Canberra at 7,000 yards CA Canberra engages DD Hagikaze at 7,000 yards CL Leander engages CL Oi at 7,000 yards Range closes to 6,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Canberra at 6,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Le Triomphant at 6,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages CA Canberra at 6,000 yards DD Pillsbury engages DD Hagikaze at 6,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Peary at 6,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Canberra at 6,000 yards DD Le Triomphant engages DD Suzukaze at 6,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Pensacola at 6,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Le Triomphant at 6,000 yards CL Achilles engages CL Oi at 6,000 yards CL Oi engages CL Leander at 6,000 yards DD Hagikaze engages DD Pillsbury at 6,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Peary at 6,000 yards DD Whipple engages DD Hagikaze at 6,000 yards Range increases to 8,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Canberra at 8,000 yards CL Oi engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards CA Pensacola engages CL Oi at 8,000 yards CA Louisville engages CL Oi at 8,000 yards CL Achilles engages CL Oi at 8,000 yards CL Leander engages CL Oi at 8,000 yards DD Suzukaze engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Pillsbury at 8,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Whipple at 8,000 yards Range increases to 9,000 yards CA Canberra engages CL Oi at 9,000 yards CA Australia engages CL Oi at 9,000 yards [image]local://upfiles/25806/F457EF9F1DE14531AFA750D4B41F9826.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> Did I do that? (3/21/2012 6:40:28 PM)
17-20 October 1942 Aussies destroy the small IJA fragment at Exmouth. Broome falls. A big pile of restricted Aussie units head for Geraldton and will walk North. Erromago building forts to level 3 before the AB/Port get touched. The 2nd Marines are arriving at Noumea for movement to Efate when Erro is ready to hold fighters. Then there was this. Just one hit but it's an AFB dream screenie for this point in the War [image]local://upfiles/25806/93EBEE7CC99743698F5A3253A37AA88F.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> Uh Oh (3/21/2012 6:50:03 PM)
x x x x x x Title is mistroika for my opponent. 21-22 October 1942 Well lookie here. Please, oh please, oh please drift just four or five hexes further south. [sm=innocent0001.gif][sm=innocent0001.gif][sm=innocent0001.gif] I doubt it. I suspect my opponent saw TF moving from Noumea to Erromango/Tanna and was hoping to catch one. Once things cool down, I will move an AV to Erro which will give me another five hexes of PBY coverage to the north to help avoid nasty surprises. Still, "Step into my lair", said the spider to the fly Here's hoping for a spectacular next turn (edit, forgot there are 54 SBD at Nadi but obviously they won't come into play, yet. Also, forgot I had Marine sq at Tanna not USAAF which means 18 planes per squadron vice 16; so the correct number would be 54 SBD at Tanna. MUWAHAHAHA) [image]local://upfiles/25806/D76CC778D8044F13971C46474D0D3A64.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 1:43:14 AM)
23 October 1942 Battle of Noumea. Well I need to learn to just run away whenever I get any hint of the IJN carriers being around. My little intel from last turn was highly inaccurate. What really was there was half of KB escorting a SCTF built around Kirishima and Hiei. They got in amongsth the transports at Noumea and could have done much worse than they did. Only one AMPH TF had troops on board and it eluded the IJN. I will break this down by phases.

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:02:06 AM)
Night Phase We start with the USN SCTF getting surprise on the IJN. The BBs did not fire a lot here. The IJN concentrated on Cummings. There was one penetrating 8" hit on Kirishima. Ashigara also took a penetrating 8" hit which caused an internal explosion. Many of the USN hits were by San Diego which was highly effective throughout the turn. Also Hiei collided with Hibiki but no damage seemed to show. There were no large caliber hits on the US ships and not many were even fired. Japanese Ships BB Hiei BB Kirishima, Shell hits 2 CA Ashigara, Shell hits 4, on fire CL Nagara, Shell hits 2 CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1 DD Naganami, Shell hits 1 DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 1 DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 3 DD Asagumo DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships CA San Francisco CA Vincennes CLAA San Diego DD Jarvis, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Maury, Shell hits 2 DD Benham DD Mahan, Shell hits 1 DD Cummings, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Next the IJN sank an AM that was alone in a MSW TF The PTs then attacked but range never got below 8k. I lost one PT The loaded AMPH TF then eluded the IJN Now, the IJN gets in amongst a TF that had only supply aboard. Here the IJN BB find there big guns and concentrate on the two USN CLs. The brave combat ships did a pretty good job screening the transports. Th xAPs were only attacked after the two CL sank. Japanese Ships BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1 CL Nagara CL Abukuma DD Naganami DD Hamakaze DD Yamagumo DD Asagumo DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki, Shell hits 4, heavy fires Allied Ships CL Concord, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL Trenton, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Clark, Shell hits 3, heavy fires DD Worden, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD MacDonough DD Dewey DD Hull, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAP St. Mihel, Shell hits 2, on fire xAP President Fillmore xAP President Tyler xAP Rangitiki xAP Rangitata, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Mataroa, Shell hits 1 xAP Raranga xAP Boschfontein, Shell hits 3, heavy fires xAP Bloemfontein The IJN now find another empty AMPH TF. Fewer combat ships to screen; so more damage. Fortunately this was a brief combat as the USN disengaged fairly quickly Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Shell hits 1 BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1 CA Ashigara, Shell hits 1 CL Nagara CL Abukuma DD Naganami DD Hamakaze DD Yamagumo DD Asagumo Allied Ships DD Woodworth DD Russell DD O'Brien DD Walke, Shell hits 3, on fire AP Fuller, Shell hits 2 AP President Adams, Shell hits 1 AK Algorab, Shell hits 3, and is sunk AK Titania AK Alcyon, Shell hits 2 AMC Monowai, Shell hits 1, on fire The IJN now bombards Noumea. I make no claim to understand the concepts behind Ops Points but this is getting a little ridiculous. Night Naval bombardment of Noumea at 115,160 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 11 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 9 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground P-40K Warhawk: 20 damaged P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 damaged F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed on ground P-39D Airacobra: 5 damaged SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese Ships BB Kirishima BB Hiei CA Ashigara Allied ground losses: 106 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 23 The night phase ends. All the USN TF that were safely tucked away at Noumea are now scatterd about the hexes around the base. This leads to so losses during the day.

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:12:02 AM)
Day Phase So the USN SCTF retreated NE which just happened to fall in the exit path of the IJN. What was that about Ops points? I watched this twice becuase I was thinking how could the BBs not be out of ammo. Well they almost were, almost. They emptied their magazines on Vincennes. The range never got close enough for the 8" guns to pentrate but there were a few hits on non-armored areas. Again, San Diego hit about everything she aimed at although many failed to penetrate. The IJN decided to run when there was no more ammo. The ranged opened and eventually only the US ships were firing at range 16k and 18k. The IJN had stopped firing by then completely and most of the hits on the Japanese DDs were at extreme range. Who said the USN can't hit anything in 1942. Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Shell hits 8, on fire BB Kirishima, Shell hits 5 CA Ashigara, Shell hits 3, on fire CL Nagara CL Abukuma, Shell hits 4 DD Naganami, Shell hits 1 DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 2, heavy fires DD Yamagumo DD Asagumo, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied Ships CA San Francisco, Shell hits 3 CA Vincennes, Shell hits 15, and is sunk CLAA San Diego, Shell hits 6 DD Jarvis, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Maury, Shell hits 1 DD Benham, Shell hits 1 DD Mahan, Shell hits 6, on fire

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:25:27 AM)
AM Air Phase Suffice it to say I had 0% coordination even with three air HQ at Noumea. I failed to hit the IJN CVs completely. With my TF scattered hinter and yon, the IJN got through the defenses. The CAP battles were interesting. Everything from highly effective intercepts to almost none. Even saw one where the IJN CAP ignored my Escorts and shot down my attack planes. Here are the strikes Morning Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 ( I think this was the CAG remnants) Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 A6M2-N Rufe x 2 A6M3a Zero x 7 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 7 SBD-3 Dauntless x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed Morning Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 38 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 A6M2-N Rufe x 2 A6M3a Zero x 7 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 38 P-40K Warhawk x 5 TBF-1 Avenger x 15 (they launched but no hits - not very good NavT skil as these are from a VMSB sq that upgrade to TBF) No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 7 destroyed TBF-1 Avenger: 4 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Zuikaku CV Shokaku CV Hiryu BB Kongo Morning Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 A6M3a Zero x 5 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 13 F4F-4 Wildcat x 12 SBD-2 Dauntless x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-2 Dauntless: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Shokaku CV Hiryu Morning Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 A6M3a Zero x 2 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Hiryu Morning Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 A6M3a Zero x 2 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Hiryu Morning Air attack on TF, near Ouv'ea at 116,158 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 25 (from Suva) Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese Ships BB Hiei, on fire DD Naganami DD Yamagumo Morning Air attack on TF, near Isle of Pines at 115,161 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 5 D3A1 Val x 11 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 2 P-38F Lightning x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 4 P-40K Warhawk x 1 F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships xAP Boschfontein, on fire xAP Bloemfontein, Bomb hits 1 xAP Mataroa, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires xAP Raranga, Bomb hits 1, on fire Morning Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 115,160 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 43 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 11 B5N2 Kate x 7 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 5 P-38F Lightning x 9 P-40E Warhawk x 26 P-40K Warhawk x 3 F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 6 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed No Allied losses Morning Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 116,160 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 D3A1 Val x 11 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 2 P-38F Lightning x 6 P-40E Warhawk x 11 P-40K Warhawk x 3 F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CA San Francisco CLAA San Diego Morning Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 115,159 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 B5N2 Kate x 9 Allied aircraft P-38F Lightning x 15 F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships DD Walke, heavy damage AMC Monowai

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:32:51 AM)
PM AIr Phase Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 38 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 15 A6M2-N Rufe x 1 A6M3a Zero x 3 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 35 P-40K Warhawk x 5 F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 TBF-1 Avenger x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed TBF-1 Avenger: 7 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Zuikaku CV Hiryu CV Shokaku Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ouv'ea at 116,158 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 22 SBD-3 Dauntless x 16 (from Tanna - 54 SBDs there and this is the only attack) Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Bomb hits 3, on fire (only hits of the day) DD Hamakaze, heavy fires Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 A6M2-N Rufe x 1 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 SBD-2 Dauntless x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Zuikaku Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships CV Zuikaku Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Belep Islands at 114,155 ( ok so no surprises there were no hits, wuold have been nice to fly in the AM to wear down the CAP) Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 Allied aircraft B-17F Fortress x 23 P-38E Lightning x 17 P-38F Lightning x 30 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-17F Fortress: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CV Shokaku BB Kongo CV Hiryu Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 115,160 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 42 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 5 D3A1 Val x 23 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 3 P-38F Lightning x 9 P-40E Warhawk x 22 P-40K Warhawk x 4 F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed D3A1 Val: 8 destroyed No Allied losses Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Isle of Pines at 115,161 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 B5N2 Kate x 11 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Allied Ships xAP Bloemfontein, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk xAP Boschfontein, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Clark Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 115,159 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 D3A1 Val x 10 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 1 P-38F Lightning x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 5 F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships AP President Adams Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 116,160 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 13 Allied aircraft P-38E Lightning x 1 P-38F Lightning x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 7 P-40K Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships CA San Francisco

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:33:54 AM)
Ships Sunk [image]local://upfiles/25806/0AF98B488EA349639129EB0E883F86B7.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:39:23 AM)
Air Craft losses. While I came out on the winning side just barely, this is very disconcerting. As far as I can tell, there was just Zuikaku, Shokaku, and Hiryu present here. I had over 300 fighters in the theater which represent 50% of the total US fighter strength in the Pacific not counting CBI. There are 150 at PH and 150 in Oz. I just saw three IJN carriers take on half of my entire fighter strength and WIN!!!!!!!!![X(][X(][X(][X(] The only good news is I only lost a handful of pilots. Still. this is very discouraging [image]local://upfiles/25806/034B02B260144674B31A060EFB48D300.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 2:54:01 AM)
Aftermath Obvious immediate concern is saving my cripples. There are two ARs at Auckland that will be sent North ASAP. Things to think about: 1. My NavSearch needs to get better. I had very poor pre-battle intel and that is my fault as I encountered a similar problem during the last carrier battle Three AVs departed Auckland this turn. I have two more PBY units that just arrived in theater. 2. The US has not evened the experience edge as far as fighter quality 3. I need to recheck my leaders because something seems amok as far as attack a/c not wanting to launch. 4. I have to wonder if the AB damage from the BOMB affected my results 5. Cudos to Larry for having the guts to try this 6. Cudos to Larry for picking the perfect spot to park his carriers as far as limiting exposure. What I am going to do: 1. Spread my forces out. I thought having every body in one or two bases one hex apart would give the best chance for coordination. All it did was make them more vulnerable. 2. Step back my plans a bit. I think as long as I lack any hope of matching his carriers, I need to move slowly 3. Move my "eyes" as far forward as possible 4. Run away anytime IJN carriers show up in the future. What else happened: 1. I lost a PC to a Ro boat at Carnavon 2. A IJA Recon RGT had been parked at Myitkyina for a week but had not attacked. I mved a LRP RGT in over the past few days. It finally attacked and was repulsed at 1 to 36 odds. 3. Op Report tells me CV Hiyo did not sink. Just lovely [image]local://upfiles/25806/D96B8197A72849EBB94DE9AB882D3F8D.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/22/2012 6:43:58 AM)
24 October 1942 Only one TF still visible in the SoPac which was two DDs. Hibiki likely sank as that TF only has one DD in it now. Sorry Cuttlefish. Redid some of my leaders. There were a few stinky ones. Hoping that helps if the possibility arises again. I also disbanded the CAG fragments. The units were just taking up space at the AB. [image]local://upfiles/25806/9C23896469CF4FB3BB3FBDD183530D76.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/24/2012 9:47:50 PM)
25 October - 1 November 1942 Game falls into a lull after big battle a week ago. Notes: 1. IJA has reoriented and is pushing towards Wuchow, At least 11 units have been spotted so far. I have 350 AS behind level 3 forts. Units being moved from the Changsha area to reinforce my right. I will have to pull back to better terrain if (when) Wuchow falls. 2. I am moving the 7th Aussie Div to Port Headland. That and a large portion of the restriced Auusie units are moving to the NW 3. Erromango AB is almost to level 3. Once to level 4, I will move fighters up for the big push on Efate. I suspect Larry may try to interfere here. 4. Cox Bazaar AB is level 1. I will continue to move down to Akyab. 5. After routing the unit at Myitkyina, suddenly the IJA is on the move. I have been pounding troop concentrations at Katha. 6. Bagged this bad boy on 1 November. Capacities were 5000 troops, 1200 cargo. I don't think Larry has many of those [image]local://upfiles/25806/BE4E871B144D41618B9940B60B43407D.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/26/2012 3:28:01 AM)
2 November 1942 IJA strength at Wuchow is now 660 vs 350 KMT. I am moving reinforcements to Liuchow where forts are nearly level 4. Also, It is close enough to Kuming that the USAAF bombers can be moved in to help if need be Larry must have decided he wants Exmouth. I am caught in a predictament here as the convoy and SCTF at Port Hedland are exposed. However CVL Shoho took two A-24 delivered 1000 lb bombs one of which gave the"Magazine Explosion" message. No IJN a/c listed as lost on the Intel Report. I am hoping this means she will at least not be flight capable next turn. My opponent has three choices: 1. Call the whole things off if indeed he has lost his carrier support. 2. Push forward and accept the losses. There are at least three IJN BBs present 3. Call back the invasion and send the SCTF to Port Hedland. I am hoping for #1 or #2 but fear #3. I opted to keep the TF at Port Hedland unloading. I would rather have the remaining troops at least partially unloaded vs sending them into open waters where the IJN might intercept and just sink them outright. A retreat East towards Broome was another option but I didn't want to hang them even more out to dry. [image]local://upfiles/25806/1B4542F156E6432CAEF0FB0B74F65A92.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Be Careful What You Wish For (3/26/2012 1:59:38 PM)
3 November 1942 or ...... He could have a SCTF linger five hexes off Exmouth and let my LBA work it over. BB Fuso took 11 non-penetrating 1000 lb hits and 5 500 lb hits. SHe is burning nicely. CA Kako also took a 500 lb hit IJA did a Deliberate attack at Wuchow and KMT took higher losses. Forts reduced to 2. Need to hold here for a few turns o get the troops to Liuchow. IJAAF swept Chittagong and lost 6 Ki44 to 9 P-40E. The Hurricane IIc seem to be able to handle the Tojos better. One sq just upgrade to P-40K Erromango AB grew to size 3. Troops beginning the load for Efate. [image]local://upfiles/25806/F07BA659C3704B8CB231643100A81B0C.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> Exmouth at Risk (3/27/2012 12:54:31 AM)
4 November 1942 A very busy turn. Wuchow fell. I should be able to get 2000 AS into Liuchow before the IJA can get there. The IJA is on the move in Burma with Myitkyina being threatened by 8-10 units moving from Katha. My LBA is pounding the troops on their way there. My USAAF bomber fleet that has been trickling in is about ready. Still waiting on about a dozen more B-25 and B-24 airframes. Cox Bazaar is devloping nicely. Once it is developed I will move on Akyab. An interesting ASW attack just north of Tulagi: Japanese Ships BB Yamato CA Furutaka CA Aoba CA Mikuma CA Chokai CL Kiso CL Tama CL Natori CL Jintsu CL Oyodo DD Shigure DD Isokaze DD Nenohi DD Hatsuharu Allied Ships SS Whale So it appears Larry is going to try to repeat his raid on Noumea. Already clearing everybody out of the area. Tanna is level 6 and Erro is level 3. I have newly arrived squadrons of all types at Auckland that need a home including another P-38 squadron. At Exmouth, three separate TFs are unloading troops. My AF did not do much (some of them got lost trying to find the TF right off the base). Only attacks in the PM phase were executed. Nagato took 4 1000 lb non-pentrating hits, Ise took 2 1000 lber, an xAP took two 1000 lb hits, another xAP took one 1000 lb hit, and an AK took one 500 lb hit. The IJN Bombarded the base at the end of the turn and trashed it: 99 runway, 67 facilities, and 42 Port. Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 8409 troops, 148 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 299 Defending force 7429 troops, 29 guns, 165 vehicles, Assault Value = 368 Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 22nd Australian Brigade 27th Australian Brigade 2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion 2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion 2nd Air Advn Base Force 4th RAAF Base Force 6th RAAF Base Force Defending units: 5th Div /4 16th Engr Rgt /1 4th Div /8 48th Div /3 7th Tank Rgt /2 8th Tank Rgt /2 2nd Tank Rgt /2 1st Hvy.Artillery Rgt /1 So he brought a lot of firepower but it is heavily fragmented. I am moving all I dare from SE Oz to Perth or Geraldton depending on if they are restricted of not. As soon as I can muster up some escorts, I will send the two ID still on the WCUSA to oz vice the SoPac at least temporarily. I also detached one AMPH TF from SoPac and a REPL TF. The RN BBs have sortied from Colombo but are just over 100 days before they start withdrawing. I sent three large BF with 72 AV support each to Sydney that were heading to Noumea. All my AV support in Oz is in the NE corner. I don't dare strip that zone as this could be a feint to get me to empty Eastern Oz before a Japanese move there. [image]local://upfiles/25806/8EBDB41DFFF54AABA35111357581C089.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/27/2012 3:32:10 AM)
5 November 1942 Oh the carnage! Oh the humanity! Well my AMPH TF got chicken because there were SCTF and retreated from enemy surface threat right into the SCTF built around Fuso. Obviously 16 non-penetrating hits don't do much to a BB Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 53,127, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 1 CA Nachi, Shell hits 1 CA Mogami CA Kako, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1 CL Sendai DD Shiratsuyu DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 3 DD Suzukaze Allied Ships CL Adelaide, Shell hits 14, and is sunk DD Alden, Shell hits 1, on fire DE Edsall, Shell hits 2, and is sunk DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 1 DD Van Nes DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 3 AM Chevreuil, Shell hits 1, on fire AM Gladstone, Shell hits 1, on fire AM Rockhampton xAP Empress ' Asia, Shell hits 1 xAP Sarpedonia xAP Aorangi xAP Maori xAP Taroona xAP Nairana xAP Kinta, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Felix Roussel xAP Cap St Jacques xAP Cremer, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAP Maetsuycker, Shell hits 1 xAP Mijer xAP Siberg, Shell hits 1 xAP Van Landsberge xAP Van Rees, Shell hits 3, and is sunk xAP Van Heemskerck, Shell hits 1 xAP Van Spilbergen, Shell hits 2, on fire Allied ground losses: Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) They retreated again and later in the turn we had this: Day Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 51,128, Range 23,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 1 CA Nachi CA Mogami CA Kako, Shell hits 1 CL Sendai DD Shiratsuyu DD Kawakaze DD Suzukaze Allied Ships DD Alden DD John D. Ford DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 1 AM Chevreuil, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage AM Rockhampton xAP Empress ' Asia, Shell hits 3, on fire xAP Sarpedonia, Shell hits 1 xAP Aorangi, Shell hits 1 xAP Maori, Shell hits 2 xAP Taroona, Shell hits 2, heavy fires xAP Nairana xAP Felix Roussel, Shell hits 1 xAP Cap St Jacques, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAP Maetsuycker, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Mijer, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage xAP Siberg, Shell hits 2, heavy fires xAP Van Landsberge xAP Van Heemskerck, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAP Van Spilbergen, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: Guns lost 46 (40 destroyed, 6 disabled) Vehicles lost 18 (10 destroyed, 8 disabled) The remanants are making for Carnavon. My LCU losses have been remarkably light thus far [image]local://upfiles/25806/55C49888CCCC49EC8CCBCF09F4C7209D.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/27/2012 3:35:20 AM)
Then my SCTF got in the act but didn't do nearly as well. Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 51,128, Range 6,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 11, and is sunk DD Arare, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 3, heavy fires Allied Ships CA Louisville CA Pensacola CA Australia, Shell hits 1 CA Canberra, Shell hits 1 CL Achilles DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 2 DD Whipple DD Peary DD Pillsbury and Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 50,129, Range 9,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 1 DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Usugumo APD Nadakaze APD Tsuga, Shell hits 1, heavy fires PC Take, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Naruto Maru #3, Shell hits 3, on fire SC Ch 9 SC Ch 21 SC Ch 26 AK Sado Maru AK Sakura Maru AK Kyushu Maru AK Azumasan Maru xAK Melbourne Maru xAK Lisbon Maru xAK Tatuno Maru, Shell hits 1 xAK Tokiwa Maru xAK Hakubasan Maru PB Ikuta Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage E Yaeyama, Shell hits 1 SC Ch 34 Allied Ships CA Louisville CA Pensacola CA Australia CA Canberra, Shell hits 3 CL Achilles DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Whipple DD Peary, Shell hits 1 DD Pillsbury A third IJN convoy eluded the Allies Confirmed ships sunk for the day [image]local://upfiles/25806/099716183D214BCC8D927F2123162DB0.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/27/2012 3:42:10 AM)
About half my ships are out or nearly out of ammo. Only one DD has any significant damage, and it is not at risk. I suspect at least three more IJN DDs have either sunk or will not make it home. The base AS at Exmouth is rough 600 to 300 in favor of the IJN. Larry likely has a lot of disruption as I don't think these units were well prepped. It will be a race for me to get reinforcements in place before he recovers. The port Damage fell to 20 so it will likely be repaired in a day. I am working on building Carnavon as quickly as possible. USAAF medium bombers can easily cover Exmouth from there. Geraldton is being built as a 4E base. I need to hit Broome and Derby with 4E ASAP to keep those bases from becoming operational. On the good news front, CVL Ryujo is confirmed sunk this last turn

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/28/2012 12:54:53 AM)
6 November 1942 Little action off Exmouth. Some subs fired dud torpedoes. Retreating units from both sides dodge each other. Larry is still unloading. My SCTF rearmed at Perth and is heading back up. Lets see if they can get there before the IJN withdraws. A Bombardment attack didn't go so well for the IJA: Ground combat at Exmouth (50,129) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 15162 troops, 127 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 773 Defending force 13019 troops, 173 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 309 Japanese ground losses: 336 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 26 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 5th Division 8th Tank Regiment 48th Div /3 4th Division 2nd Tank Regiment 7th Tank Regiment 16th Engr Rgt /1 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment Defending units: 22nd Australian Brigade 27th Australian Brigade 2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion 2nd Air Advn Base Force 2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion 4th RAAF Base Force 6th RAAF Base Force I don't know how long my armor will take to move up from Carnavon. Hopefully not too long. I released two USA Tank Destroyer BTNs to help out. On the other side of the map, I sent the two TF up to Efate. I am hoping that Exmouth has Larry's attention and he is either diverting of holding his Navy in reserve. Erromango is Level 5 AB and has 100 P-40. Tanna is Level 6 and has 72 F4F. SoDak is on her way to Noumea from Sydney. Also I forgot to mention Salt Lake City was hit by an I-Boat off the North Cape of NZ. She is slowly making her way to the base on the Norht end of the island (begins with a W) Times are interesting

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/28/2012 3:57:28 AM)
7 Novemeber 1942 TF still unloading at Exmouth but the SCTF appear to have withdrawn. I put my SCTF at FULL SPEED and it should just make the base during the Day Movement phase. I lost two AM trying to sneak past the IJN. My two ARM BGD made a hex in two days. Three more to go. There will boost my AS by 116 but more importantly really up the firepower. TF arrive at Efate too late to unload. They were spotted by a Mavis out of GC so they may not complete their unloading in one phase. The RN BB are about 600 NM due west of Sabang. Will take about a week I think. The 37th ID arrives Auckland next turn. I still have 3rd Marines and 43rd ID to move down. 54 days until dud torpedoes decrease.

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/28/2012 5:27:26 PM)
8 November 1942 Larry left two AMPH TF at Exmouth and pulled all his SCTF back. Bad idea. While the three small fries are all that is listed as sunk, the two CLs both took multiple 8# hits that penetrated. My DDs took a beating which is creating a crisis. I released a few from the SoPac to help out. Looks like at least ten units are heading for Myitkiyina. Aerial bombardments intensify. China is stabilizing with 1700 AS behind almost level 4 forts at Liuchow. More AS on the way form the North and East to firm up the line. All but a small fragment of the 2nd Marines has unloaded at Efate. Next load will be supply and AV support. BB Yamato and friends are 320 NM NW of Luganville. The CAP was A6M3a. Not sure if that was from GC or carriers. B-17 out of La Foa attacked for no hits. IJA Deliberate attack at Exmouth came off 1:2 with 1300 IJA casualites offset by 900 Allied. Forts were reduce to 2. This is going to be close. 53 days until TT improve. [image]local://upfiles/25806/5E53AA7E02CA41AD9C0B895989CC6FF0.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/29/2012 4:51:28 AM)
9 November 1942 Yamato and friend drift East but the IJN comes a calling with a CVTF. My pilots through everything at them in typical uncoordinated manner. Despite several dozen attacks by SBDs, again I get no hits. I lost an AM and had another damaged in attacks off Erromango. The troops and supplies got ashore in good order at Efate. The IJA did another delberate attack at Exmouth and reduce the forts to 1 [image]local://upfiles/25806/27CE21A2012849F5BD9529EC22D21639.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/29/2012 4:53:37 AM)
10 November 1942 I sent a SCTF bulit around one RN CA and a couple of CLs. The did well. Fortunately, they only sparred with this group for a short time (save ammo for later) [image]local://upfiles/25806/4A87A12387A9499BA06A252A8D5A1006.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/29/2012 4:56:11 AM)
Then they got in amongth the transports. After this combat, they hit a supply convoy doing this: Night Time Surface Combat, near Exmouth at 50,129, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships PB Naruto Maru #3, Shell hits 3, on fire SC Ch 9, Shell hits 1 SC Ch 26, Shell hits 5, and is sunk AK Azumasan Maru, Shell hits 35, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Melbourne Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires xAK Lisbon Maru, Shell hits 15, heavy fires xAK Tatuno Maru, Shell hits 25, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Tokiwa Maru, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hakubasan Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage SC Ch 34, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied Ships CA Hawkins CL Birmingham CL Caradoc, Shell hits 1 DD Porter DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 1 DD Nepal DD Van Nes DD Van Galen [image]local://upfiles/25806/5FF5BCD696FA4161BD1A8DB5F91C677E.jpg[/image]

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/29/2012 5:05:06 AM)
Then some fo the a/c at Exmouth flew picking off a couple of crippled xAP. The IJA goes for a shock attack coming off at 2:1 and reducing forts to 0. The base holds. I pulled all the a/c out. My armor is still two hexes away and I doubt it will be able to help even when it gets there. Larry made a comment about wanting to end this "meeting engagement" Hate to tell him but if Exmouth falls, it won't be the IJA's for long. I have four Division equivalents plus armor, arty and most importantly a/c on the way. No, this will be a very short stay for th IJA. Liuchow now has 1700+ AS behind level 4 forts with another 800 inbound. Additional units will reinforce Kweilen. One more P-38G need to upgrade first FS. I am giving them to Bong's group. Five units (all armor) are at Myitkiyina. Five more are one hex out. Very disappointed with my air power's lack of effect on the IJA here. All the bombers have GRD Attack skills in the 70s.

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/29/2012 1:50:50 PM)
11 November 1942 The IJN bombards Exmouth with a CA based SCTF. The base then falls. Counter offensive already in the works Heavy Air battle over Cox's Bazaar where I lose an xAKL but win the air battle.

vettim89 -> RE: Exmouth at Risk (3/30/2012 4:43:43 AM)
12-13 November 1942 Things slow down with the fall of Exmouth. Larry seems to be permanently basing a BB based TF there now. I caught a TF with an AD and an AKE coming south. Now its a race. If my engineers can get into place to get the AB built up, the port will not be a hospitable place. If he can repair the AB and get fighters in there, it will be tougher. Efate grows to a level 2 AB. Erromango and Tanna Ports both grow to level 3. Oh and my carriers are all due out of the shop in less than a month.

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