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obvert -> RE: VP Score (12/1/2012 5:04:04 PM)

Yeeeouch!!

That looks like my AI test game entering 43, almost exactly by the VPs.

Has he made any noises about stoping if AV is achieved, or does it appear he'll keep moving forward?




MAurelius -> RE: VP Score (12/1/2012 5:12:48 PM)

honestly I don't see much point in this going on... you could take NZ and then the rest of the Pacific - stay on teh offensive for quite a long time....




John 3rd -> RE: VP Score (12/1/2012 5:22:56 PM)

He is certainly down and depressed. I'd like to finish off Australia and take Cocos and then offer the opportunity for an Allied Surrender.

I think so much of this is attributable to placing those two full Aussie ID in NW Australia at the beginning. That combat power really made the landings much easier and speeded up my taking of the continent.

The Benkoelen counter-landing was a disaster of the first magnitude. Lew simply picked the worst place on the entire map to land since I was already prepping for the Cocos Operation.




MAurelius -> RE: VP Score (12/1/2012 5:26:32 PM)

completely agree - as it is very much possible to halt an early Japanese advance in WA (Geraldton-Busselton)..... not NE Australia though...
if one however falls back to Newcastle/Sydney/Port Kembala and Geraldton/Busselton - then it'll be difficult for the Japanese.... as just proven in my current PBEM....




John 3rd -> July 17-25, 1942 (12/18/2012 4:48:33 PM)

Combat Report
July 17-25, 1942


Been a while since I have updated. Lew and I are averaging a turn a day. No major developments other then the hammer leaving Soerabaja and Singapore to bring PAIN to Cocos Isle.

North Pacific
Nothing

Central Pacific
Nothing

South Pacific
Supplies just dropped off to sustain all major Japanese bases for 6-8 weeks.

Suva is definitely Lew's major base of operations now. Lots a ships and planes spotted repeatedly there. Don't want to mess with that. Prefer New Zealand...

Australia
The Endgame has fully enveloped Oodnadatta and Alice Spring as more planes and troops move into the noose closing in on Australia's last resistance. Tennant Creek has 45 Fighters and 90+ Kates flying from it hitting Alice Springs. No aerial resistance now. Port Augusta flies 36 Fighters and 80 Bombers hitting targets at or near Oodnadatta. There are now 3 Inf Div, 2 Brigades, and 3 TK Regiments closing in. Pnly thing slowing this down is the sheer distance we have to travel.

Land at Horn Island on the 23rd and 25th. Should take the base tomorrow.

All that is left is Port Moresby.

New Zealand
This is the FIRST time I have listed this area on the Combat Report. It is an ominous development for the people of Hobbiton!

Spotted a Cargo TF approaching Wellington and decided to risk the mines there. Send a small STF of 2 CL and a DD to raid it. They sweep into the area on the 25th and find a nice, ripe plum waiting for them. A Tanker TF of 3 DD, 1 PC, 1 AVD, 2 AO, and 10 TK is unloading. We catch them by surprise and in go the Long Lances! Hmmmmm....YUMMY! DD Hughes, the AVD, the PC, and 2 large TK are sunk while another DD and 5 AO--TK are left burning furiously and/or sinking. NICE!

DEI
Land and take Sampit on the 25h.

The Kaigun weighs anchor for the first time in nearly 3 weeks! Soerabaja sees CarDiv2, CarDIv5, 2 BC, a CL, and 8 Modern DDs form-up and follow out of the harbor 3 CVLs, 2 CAs, and 8 DDs. Roughly 400 planes present on the 7 decks. From Singapore two BB TF do the same thing with firm plans on bringing the RAIN to little Cocos.

Three full strength--100% prep--Inf Div get ready to load onto the gathering AKs at Soerabaja. Time to end Allied possession of Cocos BABY!

Burma
Calm

China
Drive Chinese troops out of Wuchow. Four Corps had entered the hex, got heavily bombed, and then pushed out.

SS Ops
Nearly 30 SS are in Port working off SYS damage and getting R&R.

Engineering
7-17 Myitkyina AF-4, Oita AF-4
7-18 Tennant Creek AF-3, Norfolk AF-4
7-20 Enggano AF-1


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MrBlizzard -> RE: July 17-25, 1942 (12/21/2012 9:42:02 AM)

Don't feel too safe, got some clues about future release of secret weapons by Allies that will change the war.
It's pretty sure that Godzilla will be soon dropped on Tokyo and you'll have to ask for peace...[:D]




John 3rd -> RE: July 17-25, 1942 (12/21/2012 3:00:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBlizzard

Don't feel too safe, got some clues about future release of secret weapons by Allies that will change the war.
It's pretty sure that Godzilla will be soon dropped on Tokyo and you'll have to ask for peace...[:D]


THAT is a LOOOOOONG ways away ME BOYO!




John 3rd -> July 26-August 2, 1942 (1/2/2013 9:26:41 PM)

Combat Report
July 26-August 2, 1942


This update is dominated by the invasion, assault, and CAPTURE of Cocos Isle.

North Pacific
Calm

Central Pacific
I had gathered nearly 25 SS at Jaliut and allowed them about three weeks R&R to do repairs, reload, and refuel. They depart on the 27th with roughly half moving to Noumea for New Zealand Operations while the other half move east to cover the Line Islands--Canton--Pago Pago. High hopes since my SS Campaign has gone SOOOO well to this point. All the SS have gained in experience and this makes them even deadlier (I hope).

South Pacific
Beginning to gather Fleet elements for the push into New Zealand.

Australia
The 65th Brigade, 2 Engineering Regiments, and 16th Army begin their approach to Daly Waters from the north. Daly is hit (Airfield and LCUs) by nearly 100 Kates (from Alice Springs) each day.

Elements of the 16th ID reach Oodnadatta on the 1st. Do a bombardment and find the 4th Aust ID present. My 2nd ID will reach the hex within a few days. Will attack at that point. Have 100+ Sally, Helen, and Lily attacking troops down here.

Am re-arranging Brigades and Regiments along the coast to cover the garrison requirements. Have 3 ID now in Sydney resting and getting ready for New Zealand.

DEI
Cocos activity begins to spike on the 28th as the Invasion Convoys begin their approach. The island is bombarded EVERY day and 50-75 Betty--Nell attack it during the day. At D-1 the KB (5 CV and 3 CVL) makes its presence known by hurling anywhere from 75-150 aircraft a day at LCUs. Since supply has run out here I fell that using my Vals is OK and I lose nothing in the 4 days the planes are used. The landing occurs on August 1st with 2 Battleships, 2 Battlecruisers, and 5 CAs pounding the target. The 21st and 56th Infantry Divisions land. The 18th is held as a floating reserve. The initial landing sees very little disruption (all ID at 100% Prep along with Southern Army HQ on Christmas. We score a 2-1 dropping Forts from 3 to 1. Casualties are steep in the Japanese losing 4407 to the Allies 663. Looks OK but I am still nervous. The 2nd sees 3 BBs (including Yamato), 2 BCs, and 7 CAs pound the target as well as 53 Betty--Nell and a massed strike of 69 Zero, 71 Val, and 90 Kates from KB. The defenders cannot SURRENDER fast enough! The result is 91-1 with 1684 Japanese Casualties to the surrender of 11,003 Allied troops. Scratch a HQ unit, 3 Brigades, and the ENTIRE 18th British ID!

BANZAI! BANZAI!! BANZAI!!! [sm=00000436.gif]

Order the entire Fleet to Soerabaja. Will reorganize there and move the vast majority of the Kaigun to Sydney--Melbourne for the New Zealand Operation.

The 56th is in GREAT shape. It stays on Cocos for the short term. The 21st is a mess so it goes to Singapore for R&R. The unused 18th heads for Rangoon to reinforce the 5th ID there.

Burma
Quiet

China
Quiet

SS Ops
7-30 I-20 sinks AS Platypus at Wellington
7-31 I-171 MISSES USS Wasp near Wellington---INTERESTING!!!
8-01 I-171 sinks AK Iron Master near Wellington

Engineering
07-26 Port Blair and Port Augusta AF-4
07-29 Cloncurry AF-2
07-30 Cape Enggano AF-2, Fusan AF-5, Chengchow AF-6
08-02 Launceston AF-2

Reinforcements
07-27 CVL Ryujo
08-01 DD Fuyuzuki

He has NOTHING left in the India Theatre to threaten Japan for at least a year if not two. NICE! [sm=sterb011.gif]

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Cribtop -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (1/2/2013 11:14:06 PM)

Total victory. Amazing.




ny59giants -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (1/11/2013 4:33:59 PM)

Don't land in NZ until winter is done in the South. [:-]




John 3rd -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (1/11/2013 9:00:04 PM)

That would be?????




John 3rd -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (1/11/2013 9:10:42 PM)

I should be ready to go about September 1, 1942.




Cribtop -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (1/11/2013 9:32:09 PM)

Winter is backwards in the Southern Hemisphere, ie it occurs in the northern hemisphere's summer months. Thus, Sept 1 is a good start date, IIRC.




John 3rd -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (3/8/2013 3:59:29 AM)

August 21, 1942 and Alice Springs is about to fall. Lew and I's turns have slowed to 2-3 a week but we ARE moving forward.

New Zealand planning is about to move to the ATTACK.




John 3rd -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (3/31/2013 6:01:11 PM)

August 24,1942

In a breath-taking move, American troops storm ashore in Hobart, Tanzania! Not just one or two here but fifteen different units. A full Birgade and Base Force behind Sz-3 Forts await the attack. A group of 54 Transports fly into Melbourne and begint o directly ferry troops from the Imperial Guards Brigade to Hobart. Another group of Transports begin flying in a Base Force on the north edge of Tanzania where two well-trained Sentai of Tojo's arrive.

HOLY CATS! Another great opportunity. KB had already sailed two days ago SE from Sydney and is almost behind the Allied TF. They change course and clear the decks for battle.

Guess this one aint't over people...

Start sharpening the bayonets!
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Chickenboy -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (3/31/2013 6:27:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Another group of Transports begin flying in a Base Force on the north edge of Tanzania where two well-trained Sentai of Tojo's arrive.


Wow! What sort of range to your transports have to fly from East Africa direct to down under? [X(]




John 3rd -> RE: July 26-August 2, 1942 (3/31/2013 7:50:26 PM)

Tanzania is where my FISH come from!

OK. These are 4th Generation TInas with intercontinental flight ability.

They flew to Tazmania. Is that better Boy of Chicken??!![sm=character0272.gif]




John 3rd -> SitRep (4/1/2013 3:22:31 PM)

August 26, 1942

The Allied Landing takes the base. Mission Orders are cut for two full strength ID to load into fast APs, move from Sydney, and off-load in Launceton. This is uncannily familiar to his Benkoelen Landing when I was already deep into mission planning for taking Cocos. The Fleet was concentrated, airpower was ready, and a bunch of troops were nearby.

SAME...STORY...HERE!

The CVs move into strike range next turn. He has two CVs operating there. We bring CVs Kaga, Shokaku, Zuikaku and 3 CVLs to the party. Two STF consisting of 4 BB, 7 CA, 4 CL, and 20+ DDs begin their approach to the Landing Zone...

Unfortunately CarDiv2 and Akagi are just finishing upgrades and repairs at Singers. They shall miss the party!

Well...here are the troops he landed:



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Dead-On correct. Here is my future POW List!




traskott -> RE: SitRep (4/1/2013 5:35:24 PM)

Looks like he doesn't understand 1942 is not the time of allied assaults, and less with OZ in japanese lands !!!




John 3rd -> RE: SitRep (4/1/2013 5:37:34 PM)

Gonna be bloodily FUN! Wish I had all my heavies together to deal with Wasp and Hornet (guessing on the CVs)...




John 3rd -> RE: SitRep (4/1/2013 5:38:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: traskott

Looks like he doesn't understand 1942 is not the time of allied assaults, and less with OZ in japanese lands !!!


Tell DAN that in my OTHER Game! [sm=00000106.gif]




Cribtop -> RE: SitRep (4/1/2013 7:05:15 PM)

Wow, this will seal the deal on Auto-Vic. That's a lot of Allied ship and troop points you are about to harvest. Kudos to your opponent for not hiding in LA, but goodness this won't be fun for him.




John 3rd -> She doesn't sting TWICE in THIS game! (4/2/2013 12:04:22 AM)

Is this a GOOD thing???

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John 3rd -> Battle of Hobart: Day ONE (4/2/2013 12:26:39 AM)

August 27, 1942
Battle of Hobart: Day ONE


Admiral Yamaguchi Tamon worked for two days to get into best position for an intercept of the remaining American Carrier Fleet. The morning of August 26th dawns bright and clear for aviation purposes.

Within 45 minutes of launching, the Japanese jakes spot the American CVs. USS Saratoga and USS Wasp, escorted by the fast BB North Carolina, are spotted NE of the Japanese position. The Japanese immediately launch a strike of 54 Zero, 41 Val, and 61 Kate. It is not a massive strike but it certainly carries tremendous weight and experience behind it. The American Fleet is caught in the midst of launching its own strike against the Japanese Carriers.

The Japanese easily sweep aside the paltry 12 F4F flying CAP (ONLY 12??!!) and begin their attack runs. Commander Tomonaga sees immediate hits within the first few moment of the attack upon each American CV. He diverts all of Shokaku's Kates to attack the Fast Battleship. Hits are scored everywhere as the Sea Eagles take their toll on the Americans. Calculating carefully Tomonaga tallies the following:

CV Saratoga 3 Bombs and an AMMO Storage Explosion
CV Wasp 4 Bombs and 3 TTs in Sinking Condition
BB North Carolina 6 TT and is SUNK!
CL Detroit takes a Bomb and a TT
DD Sims blows up and DD's McCall, Lardner, and Bancroft are all hit.

The American Strike comes in nearly an hour after the Japanese attack. Indeed, the returning Japanese Strike has to wait to see the results of their enemy's attack before landing. The American attack consists of 36 F4F, 42 SBD, and 21 Avengers. They are met by 96 Sea Eagles! The F4F's valiant attempt to defend their charges but are quickly overwhelmed as more and more Zeros arrive. By the time the Americans begin their final runs, only 25 SBD and 19 Avengers remain. The question remains though: HOW good are they??? Anxious moments pass as 44 planes attack, 7 being shot down by AA. and drop their deadly loads. Results:

CVL Zuiho 1 Bomb
CVL Shoho 1 TT and AMMO Storage Explosion
CVL Ryujo 1 TT

Only Shoho is in serious shape (21 SYS and 41 FLOT). All the BIG BOYS are not hit. BANZAI!

The remaining American planes are swarmed over by 70 Zeros and only 5 SBD and 3 Avengers survive. A second strike by 12 SBD is crushed under 78 Zeros.

The Afternoon begins...

Japanese Strikes continue with the following results:

CV Wasp SUNK under 2 more Bombs
CLAA San Juan SUNK under 6 Bomb hits

A Strike by 7 Zero, 12 Val, and 39 Kates sink an AK, CVE Hammondsport, and CVE Long Island.

Yet another Strike sinks two AK and damages CL Phoenix, an AG, an AP, AV Curtiss, and another AG.

CV Saratoga is not seen...


The day closes with the following US Ship CERTAINLY SUNK: CV Wasp, BB North Carolina, CVE Hammonsport, CVE Long Island, CLAA San Juan, and 3 AK.

ORDERS:
1. Shoho is detached and tries to make Port. This is doubtful but the attempt will be made.
2. KB moves SE to cutoff retreat from the area towards NZ.
3. At Sydney and Melbourne orders are opened allowing 81 Kates and 72 Betty to attack under the Cover of 200 Fighters.
4. Two BB TF move in to hit the TF at the beaches...

What a DAY BABY!

BANZAI! BANZAI!! BANZAI!!!




Saros -> RE: Battle of Hobart: Day ONE (4/2/2013 2:24:27 AM)

I don't understand how he keeps managing to feed such enormous amounts of ships, planes and troops right into the strongest Japanese concentrations.




John 3rd -> RE: Battle of Hobart: Day ONE (4/2/2013 5:16:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Saros

I don't understand how he keeps managing to feed such enormous amounts of ships, planes and troops right into the strongest Japanese concentrations.


I just got the next turn from Lew and wrote him about his absolutely horrible luck at invading right where I am preparing to launch an offensive from. Just terrible choices and the worst luck I have seen...




John 3rd -> THIS Time... (4/2/2013 9:53:19 AM)

August 28, 1942
Battle of Hobart: Day TWO


Japanese CVs move SE towards New Zealand and are rewarded for their move by spotting the damaged USS Saratoga during the afternoon. It is at extreme range so a killer Strike of Kates is launched carrying bombs. The Strike (29 Zero 69 Kates) plaster the Saratoga with 6 Bombs (+Fuel Storage Explosion) and add hits on 3 DD escorting her. Though possibly sunk, the 3 heavy CVs move towards her position to MAKE SURE.

Surface groups sink 4 AK, CA Quincy, and 3 DDs. Two Bombardment TF will hit Hobart tomorrow.

Melbourne's airpower is unleashed as over 80 Kates and 27 Betty make morning and afternoon strikes against shipping in Hobart. There is no aerial opposition this day. Another DD is sunk as well as heavy damage inflicted upon CL Phoenix, CL Detroit, several more DDs, and a BUNCH of APs and AKs (estimate 24-30 total). Not sure how many sink but those glug-glug sounds are heard each phase.

The day is not totally one-sided as a Japanese DD is sunk during surface action. CVL Shoho is also sunk by refugee planes of Wasp flying from Hobart. The tough little CVL take 4 Bombs in the morning and 1 Bomb in the afternoon before going down. Luckily her entire air group had transferred to Launceton yesterday after she had taken a TT.

That is the news!

More carnage to be reported tomorrow.

Imperial Guards Brigade unloading at Launceton and two full strength IDs (4th and 48th I think) will begin unloading there tomorrow.




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traskott -> RE: THIS Time... (4/2/2013 10:49:04 AM)

CVs and CLs will be replaced ( although in 1944 ) but troops on Hobart are doomed !!!!




Cribtop -> RE: THIS Time... (4/2/2013 2:19:17 PM)

Banzai! Ouch to Lew, though... Rough game for him.




John 3rd -> RE: SitRep (4/2/2013 2:31:09 PM)

Those comments are spot-on. Here is my future POW List!


quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

August 26, 1942

The Allied Landing takes the base. Mission Orders are cut for two full strength ID to load into fast APs, move from Sydney, and off-load in Launceton. This is uncannily familiar to his Benkoelen Landing when I was already deep into mission planning for taking Cocos. The Fleet was concentrated, airpower was ready, and a bunch of troops were nearby.

SAME...STORY...HERE!

The CVs move into strike range next turn. He has two CVs operating there. We bring CVs Kaga, Shokaku, Zuikaku and 3 CVLs to the party. Two STF consisting of 4 BB, 7 CA, 4 CL, and 20+ DDs begin their approach to the Landing Zone...

Unfortunately CarDiv2 and Akagi are just finishing upgrades and repairs at Singers. They shall miss the party!

Well...here are the troops he landed:



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Dead-On correct. Here is my future POW List!






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