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noguaranteeofsanity -> RE: B-17 supremacy (2/5/2012 12:34:48 PM)
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ORIGINAL: btbw
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ORIGINAL: noguaranteeofsanity
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ORIGINAL: btbw
Dude, you dont understand. LB attacked not port but ships. And they attacked not ALL ships docked by like in nice carrier battle biggest and best targets. It what make port attacks unadequate.
The B-17s were definately flying port attack, they scored hits on the port and it says 'Port Attack' in the breakdown of attacking aircraft.
But basically what you seem to be saying, is that playing as Japan, you would prefer your first turn attack on Pearl Harbor left the 'biggest and best' ships alone and instead attacked the far less important targets such as PT Boats and Destroyers? Or would that simply mean the start of another thread by you, explaining how port attacks are borked? You do realise you cannot have it both ways? They are both port attacks, after all.
Finally, ask yourself this question, if you were in command of those B-17s, would you attack the port itself, or the half-dozen capital ships that were either anchored or docked in Noumea Harbour? Which do you think would be the more important target?
Level bombers above PH? Something new each day!
Ever heard of the B5N Kate?
From "US Navy Report of Japanese Raid on Pearl Harbor", 15 Feb 1942, Cincpac File No. A16-3/Serial 0479:
"The so-called "lull" in the air raid was terminated by the appearance over the Fleet of considerable numbers of high-altitude horizontal bombers, crossing and recrossing their targets from various points of the compass. Enclosure (B) is a photograph of one group of horizontal bombers flying at 12,000 feet and taken shortly before attacking. Damage from this attack was serious. Some of the bombs dropped were converted fifteen or sixteen inch shells; they penetrated with about 20-inch holes, low order detonation, and very little flame..... An estimated total of 30 horizontal bombers, including nine planes which engaged in earlier attacks, participated in Phase III. The heavy ships bore the brunt of these attacks."
So again, if the port attack routine was modified according to your wishes you outlined above, with planes less likely to attack the 'biggest and best' ships in port and instead concentrate on presumably less important ships, or the port itself, it would most likely effect both sides and all port attacks, not just Allied B-17 raids on Japanese ports. Do you really want to cripple your own forces in this fashion? Or just your opponent?
While again, you are complaining that the bombers attacked the biggest and best targets, but ask yourself what would you do in their shoes or expect your own forces to do? Ignore the enemy carriers and battleships to drop a few bombs into the port facilities? Or try to do as much damage as possible to the enemy force?
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