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KG Erwin -> Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/7/2012 3:52:29 AM)

Please leave politics out, OK? I have a C-64 game which I thought was great, and featured battles from Dien Bien Phu in 1954 through the NVA 1972 Easter Offensive. Why was this game never updated and converted to a modern format? Matrix seems reluctant to cover historic modern conventional warfare, such as the Arab-Israeli Wars and Vietnam. Is no one interested? I find that difficult to believe.



nicwb -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/7/2012 6:55:28 AM)

There's also norm Kroger's operational Art of War III which has a few scenarios including a complete war monster.

Aces8 has or had a very good AAR going where he was duplicating historical US/Allied Operations - well worth a read.




Josh -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/7/2012 8:29:00 AM)

There are a few gifted modellers building scenarios for ATG, for Vietnam and the Middle East both.
Here's one: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2956740 
And ofcourse Grymme's masterpieces; http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2842432 
He even has his own site with lots of ATG scenarios; http://atgscenarios.wordpress.com/

Have to admit though... played a few TOAW Vietnam scenarios... but not really my cup of tea. Don't know why that is, heck even First Person Shooters sort of "forget" about Vietnam.



Jevhaddah -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/7/2012 3:44:41 PM)

I think it was the HPS game I got from JD a while back and I have a board game version of it too.

Cheers

Jev



simovitch -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 12:00:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Josh
Don't know why that is, heck even First Person Shooters sort of "forget" about Vietnam.

1C's Men of War: Assault Squad has a Vietnam game released. I play the WW2 version every now and then and it's actually a real hoot to play.



sullafelix -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 12:11:06 AM)

I had that game and the others that were put out by the same company.

The Vietnam game was excellent and had tons of what if scenarios. My favorite was the one where you had US air support in DBP.



wodin -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 12:58:08 AM)

I'm interested in Vietnam, though not at all interested in Arab\Israeli. So I'd be more than happy to see some tactical Vietnam games. I always think jungle Warfare works better at the tactical level.



oldspec4 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 1:17:25 AM)

Personally, I have little interest in modern warfare after the Korean conflict timeframe. This is primarily due to the lethality of modern weapon systems; and also some bias of the Viet Nam conflict due to serving in the US army at the time.



rwenstrup -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 1:23:19 AM)

If you like the tactical side of things...there are a number of Vietnam era scenarios in Steel Panthers...



jomni -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 2:19:58 AM)

There are Matrix games in the works.  John Tiller Campaign Series Modern Wars and also Flashpoint Middle East.  But takes too long to finish. :(



Perturabo -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 8:27:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: oldspec4

Personally, I have little interest in modern warfare after the Korean conflict timeframe. This is primarily due to the lethality of modern weapon systems; and also some bias of the Viet Nam conflict due to serving in the US army at the time.

Which weapon systems in Viet Nam were significantly more lethal than the WWI/WWII ones?



warspite1 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 8:54:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: oldspec4

Personally, I have little interest in modern warfare after the Korean conflict timeframe. This is primarily due to the lethality of modern weapon systems
Warspite1

+1 warfare post Hiroshima is [>:][>:]



Titanwarrior89 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/8/2012 9:12:48 PM)

I wouldn't mind a good game on the vietnam war......but the one's out there don't do it for me.  Tactical would be good.  I really don't care for the HPS squad system.



uncc -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/9/2012 7:10:28 PM)

and one more from HPS...Modern Air Power: War Over Vietnam



bairdlander2 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/9/2012 8:34:34 PM)

I tried to add the Vietnam mod for Close Combat,but it never worked.Has anyone got it to work?



ilovestrategy -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/14/2012 10:22:36 AM)

Anything after WW2 does not interest me at all.



Gladys4 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/14/2012 10:59:17 AM)

Don't know why that is, heck even First Person Shooters sort of "forget" about Vietnam.[image]http://www.datamar.info/avatar2.jpg[/image]



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/14/2012 12:01:17 PM)

http://sites.google.com/site/vietnamcombatoperations/



bairdlander2 -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/15/2012 3:01:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Gladys4

Don't know why that is, heck even First Person Shooters sort of "forget" about Vietnam.[image]http://www.datamar.info/avatar2.jpg[/image]

no,Battlefield 2 exspansion is Vietnam



ezzler -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/15/2012 9:21:21 PM)

Is there a decent documentary on Vietnam? Or must we wait for Ken Burns to do one?



junk2drive -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/16/2012 1:48:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ezz

Is there a decent documentary on Vietnam? Or must we wait for Ken Burns to do one?


Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War was a PBS multi part doc. Very good too. Probably on youtube.



Josh -> RE: Why is the Vietnamese War not gamed? (3/16/2012 3:10:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: junk2drive


quote:

ORIGINAL: ezz

Is there a decent documentary on Vietnam? Or must we wait for Ken Burns to do one?


Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War was a PBS multi part doc. Very good too. Probably on youtube.


Sure is; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu7t3Li7j04



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