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GaryChildress -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/9/2019 7:49:06 PM)


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I would point out that any Olypmic/World Cup/International competition by it's very nature is political in some way but I would hope that is obvious to most. So in pointing out the arrogance or poor sportsmanship of one or more national teams or individuals on those teams without seeming to be stepping on someone's political toes is near impossible as evidenced in many of the above comments.


I didn't know what all the fuss here was about until I did some googling. But yeah, it certainly doesn't help when your own athletes, who are supposed to be representing your country, use their celebrity status to diss it. Kind of sours some of my joy over our victory now. [:(]





Why did you go looking for it then?


So that I know what everyone else is talking about. But I think you have a good point. I probably should have just ignored it. Celebrity antics aren't worth it.




Garfieldthecat -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/9/2019 9:01:08 PM)

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I also apologize for a team who doesn't represent the values of the United States of America.


Aye. Arrogance abounds.

Excuse me, but who are you to say what 'the values of the United States of America' are? Please keep politics off this forum. Thank you.


+1 . I think the Women's US Team did an outstanding job, winning back to back World Cups. And I see nothing where they "didn't represent the values of the US". They played clean and won, and they had fun.

Not sure what is wrong with that. [8|]


Nothing is wrong with that. I'm not ready to overlook their impressive achievements. Back-to-back World Cup wins. Convincing victories over very different and skilled opponents. Playing through injuries. Very solid coaching. Most scoring and shutouts by any team ever in the World Cup. It was really well done.


Then why did you explicitly call the team out "who doesn't represent the values of the US:? [8|][8|]

EDIT: Apologies, I messed up and thought that DD696 was replying, not Chickenboy. It was DD696 who called the team out, and I misread the thread.




loki100 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/9/2019 9:01:32 PM)


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Well Spurs bought a couple of players..... although promptly loaned one back out again.

With the average age of our squad nearing 47, with us not having enough home grown players, and with the ahem... quality of our football since Christmas being what it was, it would be nice to get a few new faces in perhaps?



so to get this thread back on track.

This is wierd given how much was made a few years back about how young the Spurs squad was - and equally how high levels of fitness were essential to Poch's style of football. Also about creating our own first teamers etc. Indicates that doesn't happen just by accident but by planning ... and you can't describe Spurs' recruitment for the last couple of seasons as planned.

Just have to hope the new players slot in quickly, esp as I presume Erickson is still going to leave?




Chickenboy -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/9/2019 9:20:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Garfieldthecat


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I also apologize for a team who doesn't represent the values of the United States of America.


Aye. Arrogance abounds.

Excuse me, but who are you to say what 'the values of the United States of America' are? Please keep politics off this forum. Thank you.


+1 . I think the Women's US Team did an outstanding job, winning back to back World Cups. And I see nothing where they "didn't represent the values of the US". They played clean and won, and they had fun.

Not sure what is wrong with that. [8|]


Nothing is wrong with that. I'm not ready to overlook their impressive achievements. Back-to-back World Cup wins. Convincing victories over very different and skilled opponents. Playing through injuries. Very solid coaching. Most scoring and shutouts by any team ever in the World Cup. It was really well done.


Then why did you explicitly call the team out "who doesn't represent the values of the US:? [8|][8|]


Think you may have 'quoted' the wrong contributor?




Garfieldthecat -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/10/2019 2:02:09 AM)

Whoops, my apologies, you are correct. Let me try and edit that.




RangerJoe -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/10/2019 2:34:02 AM)

Athletics also includes sportsmanship. Off court conduct for my hometown's high school basketball team did get at least one good player off the team. So he transferred to the next town, legal in this state, to play. This happened during the summer.

I like to watch the games, I do not follow the players' antics off the field unless it effects the team playing on the field. Unfortunately, with no television and just using a cell phone for computer seriously limits what I can and do watch.




jwarrenw13 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/10/2019 3:35:54 AM)

I disagreed with Loki on general terms earlier, but I do think that arguing regarding the specifics of US women's team members' actions this year really doesn't serve a good purpose here.




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/10/2019 4:50:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: loki100


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Well Spurs bought a couple of players..... although promptly loaned one back out again.

With the average age of our squad nearing 47, with us not having enough home grown players, and with the ahem... quality of our football since Christmas being what it was, it would be nice to get a few new faces in perhaps?



so to get this thread back on track.

This is wierd given how much was made a few years back about how young the Spurs squad was - and equally how high levels of fitness were essential to Poch's style of football. Also about creating our own first teamers etc. Indicates that doesn't happen just by accident but by planning ... and you can't describe Spurs' recruitment for the last couple of seasons as planned.

Just have to hope the new players slot in quickly, esp as I presume Erickson is still going to leave?
warspite1

Eriksen? I get the feeling he may be a couple of clubs back up plan in case they can't get their number 1 choice. I don't see how he could expect to play like he did last season and still be first choice at another top club. For Eriksen it then begs the question - how desperate are you to try somewhere new, if that somewhere new is not actually a step up?

I think - if the rumours are true - Spurs would actually like to cash in now anyway. Given his 'form' last season I have no issue with him going - but of course that assumes we are actually going to replace him.....

The bigger problem for Spurs is that because he's been so ineffectual then (depending on other moves) he may not actually move at all - but refuses to sign a new contract - and suddenly we're in Arsenal territory of a player going for free. This is why I think Levy would like him to go.




loki100 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/19/2019 8:59:45 AM)

Scottish football gets its embarrassment in early this year:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/18/kilmarnock-dumped-out-europa-league-connahs-quay-nomads-rangers-aberdeen

so that is one club knocked out of Europe before the end of July




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/20/2019 1:55:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: loki100

Scottish football gets its embarrassment in early this year:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/18/kilmarnock-dumped-out-europa-league-connahs-quay-nomads-rangers-aberdeen

so that is one club knocked out of Europe before the end of July
warspite1

To be fair, there are no easy games in football anymore.....





.... sorry I was lying to try and make you feel better. That was EMBARRASSING!!




loki100 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/20/2019 2:09:12 PM)

yep, even by the standards of Scottish performances in pre-August European football that was dire.

I really don't understand the logic. Kilmarnock did exceptionally well to get into the Europa league, its unlikely to repeat, not least they lost the manager who got them there. Why not put out a serious side and get the most out of it ... if you run out of steam in Jan/Feb so what, they are too good to go down and unlikely to do particularly well in any case.




loki100 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/22/2019 9:57:12 AM)

on a different topic, its always the hope and optimism that kills you in the end?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1152943509982318593




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/22/2019 8:24:45 PM)


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on a different topic, its always the hope and optimism that kills you in the end?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1152943509982318593
warspite1

....and still the trolls can't shut up about Harry [8|] What a goal!! [:)]




shunwick -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/28/2019 1:22:39 AM)

The Irish Guy gives his 2019/2020 Premier League Predictions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQPG98uNfL0

Best wishes,
Steve




Crossroads -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/28/2019 12:06:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shunwick

The Irish Guy gives his 2019/2020 Premier League Predictions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQPG98uNfL0

Best wishes,
Steve

Can't much argue with most things he's saying, unfortunately. PL is indeed becoming a French League, where winner is known before the season even starts.




Crossroads -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/28/2019 12:07:26 PM)

There used to be the cup runs to enjoy, but since Man City basically boast two and half first teams and no bench warmers at all, well, there you are.




shunwick -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/29/2019 12:37:02 PM)


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There used to be the cup runs to enjoy, but since Man City basically boast two and half first teams and no bench warmers at all, well, there you are.

No need to worry about the FA Cup. This is going to be Braintree's year!

I can feel it in my bones. Of course, that could be osteoarthritis but I am looking on the bright side.

Best wishes,
Steve




Crossroads -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/29/2019 5:20:28 PM)


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No need to worry about the FA Cup. This is going to be Braintree's year!

I can feel it in my bones. Of course, that could be osteoarthritis but I am looking on the bright side.

Best wishes,
Steve

That's FA Cup sorted, then [:D]




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/30/2019 3:54:54 PM)


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There used to be the cup runs to enjoy, but since Man City basically boast two and half first teams and no bench warmers at all, well, there you are.

No need to worry about the FA Cup. This is going to be Braintree's year!

I can feel it in my bones. Of course, that could be osteoarthritis but I am looking on the bright side.

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

I've certainly got a monkey on Braintree. Their name is written on the cup this year. Remember where you heard it first.




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/30/2019 3:59:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Crossroads

There used to be the cup runs to enjoy, but since Man City basically boast two and half first teams and no bench warmers at all, well, there you are.
warspite1

I don't think we should press the panic button just yet, but looking at the French league, the Italian, the German and Scottish leagues, football is becoming more polarised and the fact City are owned by a country makes competing difficult for everyone else - even Man United. Interesting that all the talk of them being banned from the CL has died away. As if UEFA were going to take on the owners of City in a legal battle.....

I certainly fear for the direction European football is heading.




Orm -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (7/31/2019 6:47:11 AM)

Cheating in football is to profitable, and most honest people even deny it exists.




Orm -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/1/2019 11:08:13 AM)

Football, such a cruel game. A few minutes of extra time can make all the difference in the world. And then the away goal rule ruins a otherwise nice performance. Oh, well, if we couldn't score more on all those chances, and we allow to let them score twice on their three attempts then, perhaps, we didn't deserve to advance.

[sm=sad-1361.gif]




loki100 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/1/2019 11:41:47 AM)

that sounds very painful ....




Orm -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/1/2019 12:54:51 PM)

Yes, it was painful. But most of the time it was exciting. Lost 2-1 in the away match. Wins the home match with 2-1 (we scored first and last goal so it was a rollercoaster). Then we get the extra time to try and differ the teams apart and we take the lead and make it 3-1. With 3 minutes left they reduce the score to 3-2 and knock us out. Couldn't have been more dramatic if it followed a manuscript. Alas, they got the ending wrong. [:D]




shunwick -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/8/2019 1:14:48 PM)

The Irish Guy gives his 2019/2020 Championship Predictions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6NXD5gwV2M

Best wishes,
Steve




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/8/2019 6:03:47 PM)

You can't help but be impressed with the passion and enthusiasm Sky and its presenters have for the Transfer Window - and Deadline Day in particular.

It is nuts really - Vicky Gommersall describing the news that Marcus Rojo will be staying at Manchester United as a fascinating development - sort of tells you all you need to know [:)]

Anyway, Tottenham actually took part in the transfer window this year..... which was nice.

Spurs fans were treated to a right royal wind up on Tuesday/Wednesday, when apparently we were going to sign the world and his wife.....

....anyway back in the real world....

So four signings - one of whom was loaned straight back. So three signings - a left back, a defensive midfielder and a sort of attacking midfielder type person.

Assuming Eriksen stays this represents a very slight strengthening of the squad (Trippier and LLorente leaving notwithstanding) but I suspect Spurs will seek to cash in to avoid the Dane going on a free next season. That being the case what have we got?

Well not much really. Ndombele is a replacement for Dembele, Lo Celso arriving would be countered by Eriksen leaving, and Sessegnon is one for the future perhaps.

So no back up for Harry - and indeed with Llorente going we are actually worse off in that department. Looks like Troy Parrott needs to be brought into the first team squad.

Really impressed with Tangkanga, but centre-back is not a position where we are exactly thin on the ground.

With Arsenal, Everton, Wolves and even Manchester United strengthening, I think top 4 is going to be touch and go....




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/9/2019 4:25:22 PM)

And so the Premier League kicks off again tonight with Liverpool facing a trip to Norwich. I shall be tuning in if only to see how VAR shapes up....[X(]




loki100 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/9/2019 4:27:50 PM)


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And so the Premier League kicks off again tonight with Liverpool facing a trip to Norwich. I shall be tuning in if only to see how VAR shapes up....[X(]


well that will make it very easy for Norwich to win as the match is at Anfield. Geography dear boy, geography ....[;)]




warspite1 -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/9/2019 5:08:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: loki100


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

And so the Premier League kicks off again tonight with Liverpool facing a trip to Norwich. I shall be tuning in if only to see how VAR shapes up....[X(]


well that will make it very easy for Norwich to win as the match is at Anfield. Geography dear boy, geography ....[;)]
warspite1

Yes, the Norwich manager has pulled off a tactical master stroke. I hear that the Liverpool team bus is currently bombing up the M something or other to get back.




Crossroads -> RE: All things Football (soccer) related (8/10/2019 10:15:59 AM)

Pukki, the GOAT he is, already ahead of Messi, when playing at Anfield.




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