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GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/22/2013 5:21:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: veji1

Can you paradrop some guys on the contested hex or would that be considered gamey ? I have never done it in game, don'teven know if it's possible to paradrop on a contested non base hex ? If possible and you happened to have a paradroppable unit nearby, I personnally wouldn't consider it gamey, it is a legitimate attempt to reinforce a position with all you've got but anyway, you are probably not in a position to do it.



Don't have any of them in Burma but, anyway, it's against our HRs.Paras can only be dropped in a base/dot-base hex.



MrBlizzard -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/22/2013 5:23:21 PM)

HOLD ON MY BRAVE!
Free Thay massage for everybody at Bangkok after the victory!
[:D]



crsutton -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 4:10:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Nice Allied sweeps by Corsairs, then P-38's then P-40N's and then especially the P-47's but the poor Wellingtons still crumpled like children's kites. It was a beautifully engineered air attack..but it failed.

I am willing to be Yul Brenner is commanding that Royal Siam Army unit.



No, poor tactics. Brad should have put 2/3rds of his fighters on LRCAP over the target and then swept with the others. That would not only probably suppressed the Japanese fighters but provided him some very decent fighter escort for his bombers as well. His losses would have been much lower this way. As it is he went in in drips and drabs and paid the cost. The Allies should not be losing air battles at this stage. Not if done right.



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 8:08:28 AM)

No turn today to write about.

Brad said in his email he doesn't understand why the Thai Division doesn't retire even if it's getting 1-3 odds. I explained him (hope to be right here) that when you defend/attack in a non base hex you always have to keep in mind that forts aren't shown in the combat report. My Thai Division has 5 forts, so even a 3-1 odds won't push her out. He will need, afaik, a 6-1 in order to conquer that hex. Hope not to be mistaken here.

Ok, i picked yesterday night to study a bit my overall disposition and the upcoming reinforcements scheldue.

By the end of october 1943 i'm getting a lot of unrestricted brigades. These guys will be very very usefull in order to secure my inner perimeter, while i'll keep on massing PPs in order to buy restricted units from China and Manchuria.

But it's clear that my strategic plans will change if Burma crumbles, cause a lot of units will be lost and i will be forced to focus on the Thailand theatre. Thrilling....


Haven't been able to solve the pc-office problem so far. I can only use the latest betapatch at home or with my laptop [:@]
And...no, i do not charge my clients for the hours spent on WITP at work...well, not always anyway [image]http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/image/s2.gif[/image]



obvert -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 10:02:50 AM)

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By the end of october 1943 i'm getting a lot of unrestricted brigades. These guys will be very very usefull in order to secure my inner perimeter, while i'll keep on massing PPs in order to buy restricted units from China and Manchuria.

But it's clear that my strategic plans will change if Burma crumbles, cause a lot of units will be lost and i will be forced to focus on the Thailand theatre. Thrilling....


It's a huge relief when those units arrive. It feels like you finally have forces to really pile up somewhere, but they go quickly too. By then you may have lots of holes you need to plug in several theaters. I went through and tried to allocate forces to certain theatres a few months before they arrived and at least got them somewhat more organized so I didn't short any area too badly.

In addition to the free ones you get many brigades in China that are restricted but buyable, and quite a few regiments in Manchuria as well. A few more tank units show up in the HI and some naval infantry continue to arrive. There will never be enough, but the longer you hold your outer perimeter the more you'll have to pile onto the next layer, and in mid-44 there are a ton. Make sure your armaments are around 80-90k and vehicles at 25-30k before all of that happens.



ny59giants -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 12:54:06 PM)

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Brad said in his email he doesn't understand why the Thai Division doesn't retire even if it's getting 1-3 odds. I explained him (hope to be right here) that when you defend/attack in a non base hex you always have to keep in mind that forts aren't shown in the combat report. My Thai Division has 5 forts, so even a 3-1 odds won't push her out. He will need, afaik, a 6-1 in order to conquer that hex. Hope not to be mistaken here.


From my experience, you are correct here. In a non-base hex, the troops will retreat out based on their own fort levels being overcome.

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And...no, i do not charge my clients for the hours spent on WITP at work...well, not always anyway [:D]


Just checking here.



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 4:30:54 PM)

Waiting for Brad to send the turn i thought i could share here some thoughts regarding RL issues, following the shining example of my friend CanoeRebel [:)](even if my english won't be up to the task).

I just got notified that i lost a series of trials i have promoted against a bankrupcy procedure. It was a very big trial, with several sub-procedures in it. It was the very last chance for my client to climb back from a disastrous situation involving 25 of his companies. I've spitted blood in this thing for 6 months in a row. Nights, weekends etc... I've even exposed personally myself facing different judges.
I truly believed we had a chance. i truly believed we were right in our interpretation of the facts.
The Court (not just one, but 3 different judges) said I was 100% wrong and condamned all my client's 25 companies to Bankrupcy, even denying him the chance of getting what here is the equivalent of the american "Chapter 5".
A complete defeat.

It's hard to swallow it.
Obviously this isn't the first time i lose. Obsolutely not. But this time i've invested so much in this "thing" that now i really feel involved in it, even if the lawyer never "marries" his client's fate...
You win, you lose. It simply happens. In love, at work and in WITPAE.

Why am i saying this here? Cause i think the investments required by this game, in terms on time and energies, can, under certain degrees, compared to RL issues.
How do you feel when you invest hundreds of hours in an operation that gets nailed and screwed and resolves in a major defeat? I think the feelings are very much like those you taste in RL issues.
When a love ends or when a job thing gets FUBAR... pretty much the same.

These RL happenings should also help to keep things in prespective. You win, you lose...but life goes on, no matter what. In few weeks by now you'll probably forget it and you'll be involved in something else.
You lose the Kuriles and get Tokyo bombed? It sucks... but life goes on, the game goes on.

Ok... my thoughts aren't much clear to me either...can't imagine how they seem to you [:D].

Better to take a coffea break and take a walk....

You know what? Who cares! Tonight i have to watch the 3rd episode of the 3rd season of Game of Thrones... and life's good[8D]



Canoerebel -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 4:39:39 PM)

Hey, GJ! Man, commiserations on your real life experience. I know how you feel. I lost my most highest profile public case back in 1995 - a case in which we were right and the outcome was contrary to justice. It was so devastating that it had long term impacts on how I viewed the practice of law. But I got over it (for the most part), learned, and moved on. Knowing you, you'll probably be kicking somebody's butt (and probably they'll deserve it!) very soon.

I continue to admire you for your rapid ascent in this game and for your unshakeable good cheer and sportsmanship. I am learning things from you. You are a good man.

[:)]



witpqs -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 4:39:52 PM)

Sorry for the bad news. I guess it's worse for the client. Of course, you were arguing for your client, not really acting for him in the strict sense. Whatever it was that took place was under him, and that's what the judges really ruled on. They just did not accept your argument that the next step should go a different way.



ny59giants -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 4:51:22 PM)

In American English, the word "counselor" has two usages. One refers to a lawyers like CanoeRebel and Cribtop. The other is used by mental health folks like me. We are also called therapist. So don't be too hard on yourself when it comes to understand our language over on the other side of the pond (Atlantic Ocean). I tell people I speak American and then around people like CanoeRebel (Dan) I have to remind them that my second language is "Southernese" as it has its own dialect different from Northerners or Yankees.[:D]

Sorry about your lost case, but your analogy was very good. Once you get into mid- 43 or beyond in a PBEM game you have invested hundreds of hours and sometimes things like weather or in your recent CV vs CV battle getting the 'magical' 8 hex strike can tip the balance one way or another.

Glad you have a way to relax tonight. [;)]



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 4:51:25 PM)

Thanks guys! Yes, you are right, obviously. It's just so hard sometimes.... it's really like in love-issues... "How can she simply stopped lovin' me?", "How can she fall in love with that ugly asshole?"... How? Who knows how... it simply happens!

Next time you will be on the other side of the hill and there will be someone else in your present shoes cursing the same old curses you're now screaming to the skies [:D]
In game it's pretty much the same. This time you win a CV battle because of some lucky dice&rolls (weather, unwanted reactions etc) and you feel a king, while the other guy spits on the screen, damning the skies... next time you got your CVs sunk by an enemy's SCTF sent in the night, blind, at full speed (right Obvert? [:D][:D][:D])... thanks God the wheel keeps on turning!



And you know the worst part is yet to come... now i have to call him here...and tell him what happened [:o]

Brad, please send me the turn or i will keep on vomiting my stupid thoughts here, in a kind of flow-of-consciousness[:D][:D]



veji1 -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 5:14:06 PM)

Yes Brad, send him a turn. I need a fix...



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 5:15:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: veji1

Yes Brad, send him a turn. I need a fix...

[:'(][:'(]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 5:44:09 PM)

Sorry about the case, counselor.* Maybe you can try to get Amanda Knox off...legally speaking, of course.











* Never, EVER use the Itlaian version of this.



JocMeister -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 5:46:26 PM)

Sorry to hear you lost the case GJ!

Game of Thrones in a good comforter. Wait until you get to episode 4...awesomeness! [:D]



Chickenboy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 6:47:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
Ok... my thoughts aren't much clear to me either...can't imagine how they seem to you [:D].


No-you're right. I think those of us that are dedicated to this game feel our way through a campaign. Real life feelings of elation, frustration, boredom, terror and aggression take turns running through our psyche, just as the game's rise and fall. I know they affect my opponent in a similar way, too.

I think the clutch this game has on my emotions is part of the draw and, yes, it can be comparable to RL. And why not?

ETA: Sorry for your RL setback, GreyJoy. My advice? Alcohol and Game of Thrones are good places to start for a night. Beating the **** out of Q-ball may help too! [8D]



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 7:10:36 PM)

Thank you all guys. This is really a great community![sm=love0028.gif][sm=love0059.gif]

Turn has arrived. Very quiet.

Sep 2, 1943

BURMA: The contested hex south of Kalemyo is again the site of a series of bloody air battles, where the japanese once again have the upper hand, downing more than 40 enemy planes, losing 11 in the process.
We also sent 80 Helens at 6000 feet...man, the flak embedded with those indian divisions is terrible! Lost 15 Helens due to flak[X(][X(][X(] DBB flak is completely another story!
However, the enemy stack didn't attack also this turn and we are consolidating. He's sending back his battered chinese division in exchange of some more indians coming down from Kalemyo.  I have an Eng combat regiment 1 or 2 days away and another regiment coming in in a 3 days...an army HQ should position itself 1 hex eastwards in 2 days (hope that this will provide some bonuses).

In Burma i'm really thinking of abbandoning Akyab and Mitykina, thus freeing 4 divisions to be redeployed on the perimeter... if only that damned hex holds...

DEI: we bombed Molu again with 3 BBs. The place is once again closed but one of our Fubuki Class DD hit a mine and sunk [:o]





GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 7:12:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Sorry about the case, counselor.* Maybe you can try to get Amanda Knox off...legally speaking, of course.











* Never, EVER use the Itlaian version of this.



The italian version should be something like "professionista"... is that bad?



obvert -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 7:39:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Thanks guys! Yes, you are right, obviously. It's just so hard sometimes.... it's really like in love-issues... "How can she simply stopped lovin' me?", "How can she fall in love with that ugly asshole?"... How? Who knows how... it simply happens!

Next time you will be on the other side of the hill and there will be someone else in your present shoes cursing the same old curses you're now screaming to the skies [:D]
In game it's pretty much the same. This time you win a CV battle because of some lucky dice&rolls (weather, unwanted reactions etc) and you feel a king, while the other guy spits on the screen, damning the skies... next time you got your CVs sunk by an enemy's SCTF sent in the night, blind, at full speed (right Obvert? [:D][:D][:D])... thanks God the wheel keeps on turning!

And you know the worst part is yet to come... now i have to call him here...and tell him what happened [:o]

Brad, please send me the turn or i will keep on vomiting my stupid thoughts here, in a kind of flow-of-consciousness[:D][:D]


Yes.

Tough to watch, even tougher to write up in the AAR that was still on it's first or second page! Hopefully it built some character and I learned a few things.

Sorry about the case, man. That is harder than having this happen in game. It sounds like you put all you had into it, though, and that is all we can do really.

I'll refer to my sig line below for the rest.



Cribtop -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 7:40:30 PM)

It's tough, GJ. I mostly did transactional law and thus the stakes weren't as high (although the dollars at stake were obscene). Once outside the legal profession, I did have several things I poured my all into. Most, fortunately, came up aces, but the reverses stung enough to make me question my value, abilities and choice of toothpaste. [;)]

You already have a good attitude about it, even at the moment of the crisis. This speaks well for your ability to weather the storm. As for the case itself, don't feel too badly. I don't know Italian bankruptcy law, but most of that jurisprudence, wherever it originates, is designed to allow the institutional creditor to take what is left to the detriment of the unsecured creditors, the shareholders and the debtor. Courts will often reach "result oriented" decisions.

Finally, yes, in game as a big replay runs, my heart is pounding. Fear and anticipation mix and seize control of my faculties. Months of hard work are decided in a 20 minute movie. Nerve-wracking stuff but it's why I love the game. It gets the feel of the war right, IMHO, with a long buildup culminating in a decisive result. Remember too that as awful as the low points feel, the moment of a well executed victory feels as sweet, and part of the joy of the victory is the relief of avoiding defeat, at least for today.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 7:56:24 PM)

It's become part of American culture....consigliere [:)]



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 11:24:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cribtop

It's tough, GJ. I mostly did transactional law and thus the stakes weren't as high (although the dollars at stake were obscene). Once outside the legal profession, I did have several things I poured my all into. Most, fortunately, came up aces, but the reverses stung enough to make me question my value, abilities and choice of toothpaste. [;)]

You already have a good attitude about it, even at the moment of the crisis. This speaks well for your ability to weather the storm. As for the case itself, don't feel too badly. I don't know Italian bankruptcy law, but most of that jurisprudence, wherever it originates, is designed to allow the institutional creditor to take what is left to the detriment of the unsecured creditors, the shareholders and the debtor. Courts will often reach "result oriented" decisions.

Finally, yes, in game as a big replay runs, my heart is pounding. Fear and anticipation mix and seize control of my faculties. Months of hard work are decided in a 20 minute movie. Nerve-wracking stuff but it's why I love the game. It gets the feel of the war right, IMHO, with a long buildup culminating in a decisive result. Remember too that as awful as the low points feel, the moment of a well executed victory feels as sweet, and part of the joy of the victory is the relief of avoiding defeat, at least for today.


Thanks Crib, really appreciated your words!
Think bankruptcy low is more or less the same in most of the western countries. And yes, "result oriented" decisions are a very "kind" way to define them[;)]

This game really helps with RL imho. I'm pretty sure this game has thought me a lot of things. To accept a defeats and to go on, in this kind of games, i think helps you to do the same in RL...at least to a certain degree

Great game. Great life



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 11:26:57 PM)

Sep 3, 1943

Another quiet day.
In Burma Brad doesn't attack...yet. Keeps on resting his units... and i gain precious days.
He sent a double heavy sweep of 25+25 P-47s and knocks out 30 of my leaky fighters on CAP. Bad mistake on my part this time. But nothing too serious.
In two days we should have that hex reinforced. Let's hope for the best!
if i can solve this crisis, i think i can hold on in Burma for another 6 months[8D]



Cribtop -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 11:48:18 PM)

I always wondered why units held on in non-base hexes longer than in bases. Your explanation makes sense. I wonder how to test/confirm your hypothesis?



MrBlizzard -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/23/2013 11:48:45 PM)

I'm sorry for what happened, I'm following you since the match with Rader from all your posts I've made an impression you're a sensible and a nice person. Oh strange for a lawyer [:'(]Just kidding I'm sure you've done all was possible and more for your client. I don't trust much in justice, sometimes other intersts preveal against any logics. The judges are men too.
Tomorrow is another day and life goes on [;)]



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/24/2013 8:19:22 AM)

Sep 5, 1943

Burma: we are holding the line!
Today the allies made another great effort to break my line south of Kalemyo. Several sweeps, followed by not less than 150 bombers pounded the brave defenders. Then the usual stack (5th and 7th Ind Divisions, a Chinese Division and a tank regiment) shock attacked once again. An Indipendent Eng unit and a tiny Thai regiment managed to get to the line just in time (these guys, along with the "C" regiment of the 48th Division, were the closest units i had that were ordered to march there when i started to see the movements from Kalemyo).
The attack was brutal and the new arrived Thai regiment got badly mauled in the process. The 7th THAI division, now with more than 60% disablement, also had a bad day, but the "C" regiment of the 48th fought bravely and repelled the 7th Indian Division (which seems to be in a really bad shape).
1-1 was the final score but the allies did get much more casualities than we did. Now the 15th Army HQ is positioned 1 hexes east of the contested hex, so it can provide some bonuses. Some artillery are in march...but it will take them not less than a week to get there, possibly 2... so those guys, for the next 10 days at least, will have to fight alone.... But i think Brad needs to give some more rest to his troops and possibly rotate them, so i may have some more time.

The allies landed also in a dot base just south of Manus, while Hansa Bay, fallen in his hands last week, is already growing.

We have consolidated our line in NG as best as we could. It won't hold forever, i know...but hopefully the presence of 70K men at Hollandia-Vanimo, well entrenched, will force Brad to take his time before advancing again.



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MrBlizzard -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/24/2013 8:54:44 AM)

it's incredible how good are doing these Thay! I'm really surprised [X(]
has your Thay division involved in fightings reduced the number of forts or is still 5?
I got an impression that forts outside bases never drop after an assault (except when the defending units are forced to retreat) and that could be a strong push to defend outside bases. Even an assault with odds 3 to 1 didn't weakene d your forts, IMO in a base hex (same terrain same forts) the result would have been quite different.
How could you manage to reach level 5? In my games I've arrived at most at 3. Did you put a lot of engineers for a long time?
Thay division start with awful generals (probably the relatives and friends of the king), did you change them, at least for this division? I've never changed them before because they cost 250 PP each!!! And i used to divide in regiments cause at least 2 rgt could get very good japan commanders, but after seeing your results I've changed my mind.
You're playing very well and I'm learning a lot.




GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/24/2013 9:03:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrBlizzard

it's incredible how good are doing these Thay! I'm really surprised [X(]
has your Thay division involved in fightings reduced the number of forts or is still 5?
I got an impression that forts outside bases never drop after an assault (except when the defending units are forced to retreat) and that could be a strong push to defend outside bases. Even an assault with odds 3 to 1 didn't weakene d your forts, IMO in a base hex (same terrain same forts) the result would have been quite different.
How could you manage to reach level 5? In my games I've arrived at most at 3. Did you put a lot of engineers for a long time?
Thay division start with awful generals (probably the relatives and friends of the king), did you change them, at least for this division? I've never changed them before because they cost 250 PP each!!! And i used to divide in regiments cause at least 2 rgt could get very good japan commanders, but after seeing your results I've changed my mind.
You're playing very well and I'm learning a lot.




The 7th RTA Div has a very good general. Don't think i changed him...but for sure i have never paid 250 PPs!!!
Yes, forts never drop in a non-base hex, except when you are forced to retreat or move. Remember that if you order to move, even if you haven't moved yet, you lose all the forts.
No, no additional engineers. Just sit there for more than a year[:'(]
My strategy is simple: try to defend in good terrain and in non-base hexes... it is the same tactic Brad has used in China and that gave me a lot of headhaces there... now i'm using it against him[;)].

Thai Divisions cannt do much if not helped by a japanese unit. I think the best mix is to have 2 Thai Regiments and 1 IJA regiment for every hex.



obvert -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/24/2013 9:26:35 AM)

There is one good Thai general if I remember correctly. I have one Thai division that is about 54 exp 90 moral, and it's been fighting and getting pounded by Chinese, British and East African forces for a while. The forts are the key, plus the arty and HQ also in the hex. Arty once it's dug in is really valuable.



GreyJoy -> RE: Augustine summer wine (4/24/2013 11:59:39 AM)

So here's the general plan for Burma for the next 6 months. We will abbandon Akyab, Mitikyna and Wazrup, shrinking the perimeter and getting to better positions. We will open a dangerous corridor towards China, but there's not much i can do. I need to be carefull cause now the allies are really growing strong and i can't hope to keep on getting these awesome results from the THAI divisions....(that however will be withdrawn within the next 330 days...)
I need to move some more artillery units to Burma.
In the meanwhile, i'm moving lots of engineers to Thailand. I need to build a solid defensive line there. The plan is to abbandon Burma by mid 1944...let's hope it's doable

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