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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Well the russian learned the hard way. If u can "force" other side to spend more money than the have, u win the war....

Rasmus

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Well the russian learned the hard way. If u can "force" other side to spend more money than the have, u win the war....

Rasmus

Yes. But it was MORE than spending. They crumbled because their system was inherently flawed.

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True, that ofc raises the question what is inherently flawed. Guess time will tell, long after we are not here any more.

Rasmus

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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Nothing lasts for ever.

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ORIGINAL: parusski

Yeah and the there is this breaking news:

Undetected Russian nuclear sub 'patrolled Gulf of Mexico'

http://www.rt.com/news/mexican-gulf-russian-sub-740/

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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True, that ofc raises the question what is inherently flawed. Guess time will tell, long after we are not here any more.

Rasmus

Like historians still theorize why the Roman Empire fell...

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ORIGINAL: redcoat

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ORIGINAL: parusski

Yeah and the there is this breaking news:

Undetected Russian nuclear sub 'patrolled Gulf of Mexico'

http://www.rt.com/news/mexican-gulf-russian-sub-740/

The plot thickens

Pentagon denies reports of Russian Sub

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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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True, that ofc raises the question what is inherently flawed. Guess time will tell, long after we are not here any more.

Rasmus

Like historians still theorize why the Roman Empire fell...

According to Ambrose, the Roman Empire fell apart because the rest of the world wore pants instead of togas.

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: redcoat

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ORIGINAL: parusski

Yeah and the there is this breaking news:

Undetected Russian nuclear sub 'patrolled Gulf of Mexico'

http://www.rt.com/news/mexican-gulf-russian-sub-740/

The plot thickens

Pentagon denies reports of Russian Sub

Now, now. Read the American government statement carefully:

Pentagon denied on Thursday media reports that a Russian nuclear powered submarine cruised unnoticed for several weeks in the Gulf of Mexico near the shores of the United States.

“I don't know what that information was based on, but it was not correct,” Wendy Snyder, a spokeswoman for the Pentagon, said.

So, what have you learned. What word sticks out in that statement??

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ORIGINAL: redcoat

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: redcoat

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ORIGINAL: parusski

Yeah and the there is this breaking news:

Undetected Russian nuclear sub 'patrolled Gulf of Mexico'

http://www.rt.com/news/mexican-gulf-russian-sub-740/

The plot thickens

Pentagon denies reports of Russian Sub

Now, now. Read the American government statement carefully:

Pentagon denied on Thursday media reports that a Russian nuclear powered submarine cruised unnoticed for several weeks in the Gulf of Mexico near the shores of the United States.

“I don't know what that information was based on, but it was not correct,” Wendy Snyder, a spokeswoman for the Pentagon, said.

So, what have you learned. What word sticks out in that statement??

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I understood the article perfectly. You have just repeated the POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE. There was no UNNOTICED sub.

What I am suspicious about is the so-called Washington Free Beacon. Why did they post a story about an ‘undetected’ Russian sub? Do they have an agenda?

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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True, that ofc raises the question what is inherently flawed. Guess time will tell, long after we are not here any more.

Rasmus

Like historians still theorize why the Roman Empire fell...

According to Ambrose, the Roman Empire fell apart because the rest of the world wore pants instead of togas.

Yes, and the downfall began when Brutus, wearing black market jeans, pulled out a revolver and shot Caesar.

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Not worried at all. Russia will be building 600 modern fighters and 1000 helos. Their helo force is ridiculously small and we have almost 200 F-22's alone, not to mention the vast numbers of JSF that will EVENTUALLY show up.

This is more a move in my opinion to counter China than anyone else. Russia might be rich with oil money but their economy is still far to small to counter Europe and NATO. They might try power plays there but the reason the upgrades are for air-force and army but not navy point pretty clearly to an Chinese focus. IMHO. China is actively encouraging Chinese civilians to colonize Siberia. Russia wants to keep Siberian resources. IMHO if another major war is to happen it will be there, but right now China and Russia are fairly close because Russia has needed Chinese money and military orders to maintain their defensive infrastructure and China has needed Russian expertise. It reminds me eerily of the German Russian relationship in the years leading up to WW2 when Germany had the knowledge but couldn't use the equipment because of Versailles and Russia had the equipment but no modern combat knowledge.

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... It reminds me eerily of the German Russian relationship in the years leading up to WW2 when Germany had the knowledge but couldn't use the equipment because of Versailles and Russia had the equipment but no modern combat knowledge.