RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks

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BBfanboy -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/13/2013 6:09:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: zuluhour Hows supply at Singers? Looks like hes going for surrender over blunt force trauma. About 9500 I think. I'm sending 1000 per turn by fast transport, and I have two small xAKs going to Palembang to try to get a bit more in. I expect they'll be seen and sunk; the issue is when. Combined I think they're about 4000. When I first started reading this game forum there were comments that one-ship TFs never got detected by air search. Has that changed? If not, I would split up that xAK TF into two single-ship TFs.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/13/2013 6:25:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: zuluhour Hows supply at Singers? Looks like hes going for surrender over blunt force trauma. About 9500 I think. I'm sending 1000 per turn by fast transport, and I have two small xAKs going to Palembang to try to get a bit more in. I expect they'll be seen and sunk; the issue is when. Combined I think they're about 4000. When I first started reading this game forum there were comments that one-ship TFs never got detected by air search. Has that changed? If not, I would split up that xAK TF into two single-ship TFs. Oh, they will be. He has found a fair number of 1-ship TFs fleeing Singers and Palembang. I'll put these guys on Full as the distance is small and I don't care if I run them into the ground, but it's a risk to draw attention to Singers and I don't want him to see my APDs. I on-purpose left one HDML in a TF at Singers just so a surface TF icon would always show there. The APD icon comes and goes underneath the HDML. So far there have been no attacks on the fast transports.

zuluhour -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/14/2013 1:57:58 AM)
Ive lost 7 xAKs in single ship TFs trying to supply Terapo. (DaBabes + all Michaelm) only three have made it.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/14/2013 3:07:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zuluhour Ive lost 7 xAKs in single ship TFs trying to supply Terapo. (DaBabes + all Michaelm) only three have made it. I just ran the movie for the next turn. I-boat got one of them just NE of Oosthaven. Don't know where the other is yet.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/14/2013 2:22:26 PM)
February 10, 1942 Silver(sides') Bells OK, the titles can't all be gems, folks. [:)] It's five freakin' degrees out, it's Monday, and I'm not in the mood.[>:] Another of those strange toe-tapping turns. Not one land attack anywhere in the world. 1) Back to the sub wars. One of my two "sneakmeisters" trying to get to Palembang to load supplies for Singers gets jumped in shallow water NE of Oosthaven. Sinks without a wimper, xAK Moonta. The other ship is still alive; will see where when I open the turn in the box. 2) Way up Nort in the cold seas off Hokkaido another attack which has to be making Japan redeploy ASW a bit. USS Silversides, one of an increasing bunch of cold weather hunters, takes on a small escorted TF no doubt carrying vital war resources south. No hits, again. But soon. Despite my replacing every departing sub CO with the meanest, hairiest specimens in the pool so far there have been no surface acitons. My memory from AI games is they increase after the April radar upgrade, so we'll see. More boats headed to this hunting ground. I know from my little play as Japan that he has to use these waters, at least early on. At some point the probability gods will smile. [image]local://upfiles/31387/F5B4106BC56D4A8C934DF16C89EDFDEC.jpg[/image] 3) Third sub action as USS Dolphin, running a pure N-S barrier patrol eleven hexes east of the Wotje--Mili line, attacks another small TF, probably resupply. Misses. 4) Everything that can fly except patrol planes is evaced from Palembang to Batavia to heal. Batavia AF goes to 5. Palembang gets heavy sweeps, which find nothing, and daily bombing. Singers is hit by circa 200 bombers, including junk like Anns and Marys, a prelude to the next attack. Intel gives 25th Army HQ prep reports for Singers, but they have been there for awhile and took part in the shock attack, so this is not a new prep most likely. A few Aircobras left repairing from the last CAP trap at Singers get up and do slight disruption with no losses. More precious supply goes up in flames. 5) Many air attacks on Chinese units near Kweiyang, seeking to atrit and flip mode. This road line has been interesting as my objective has been to delay the Japanese and allow the strings of LCUs on the roads north of Chungking more time to get west. Opening the next turn, which I just did to check a spelling, shows that IJA tanks have leap-frogged the infantry and are at Kweiyang itself, which is vacant. The road to Chungking will be open when that falls, and the Chinese units south of Kweiyang will have to go past it to get to rally points. I am beginning to really detest Japanese armor. Chungking is not quite ready for a final defense, but close. About 1700 AV plus all the AA and arty, Forts at 6 + 75%, supply at 38,000 and building. Some air power. I will consider putting out flankers to slow the armor's path to the northern evac routes if he goes that way. Housekeeping All "walkable" NG units have arrived at PM and re-combined with parents. Rabaul is 100% evaced by air and sea. When the last LCU was lifted out about 5000 supply was left, so I sent an amhib TF to vacuum out anouther 2800 supply and take it to PM. No sense offering a gift basket. Finally, a second attempt to lift Wren Det. off Nauru Island was successful and is en route to PM. If they can avoid subs that should complete the evac program for the early war period. Wake is at Forts 3 + 98% and is well-supplied. If/when Japan comes here I hope to give a good show.

BBfanboy -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/14/2013 3:03:06 PM)
When did Singers fall, historically? I think you have held out much longer already?

catwhoorg -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/14/2013 3:23:27 PM)
Historical surrender was Feb 15th

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/14/2013 6:37:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catwhoorg Historical surrender was Feb 15th True, but they had Perceval. I canned him. [:)]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/15/2013 1:57:09 PM)
February 11, 1942 Supply Woes A "move the peanut forward" move. 1) In the Sea of Japan USS Tarpon makes another attack on a lone xAK, Yamaura Maru, and misses. The crew is pounding on the pressure hull now, the TMs routining fish every watch. Little do they know it's not their fault. 2) The list of things which I see and never knew happened continues to grow. At Palembang I had moved every operable plane out except patrols hauling an air HQ out of Singers. The Cobras under repair were left on Stand-Down orders. But they are fixed overnight and instead rise on CAP to oppose the daily sweep. Two lost. Is there a way to tell planes to stay grounded and have it stick? The bombers come next, with Oscars, and hurt the planes remaining. Allied aircraft losses PBY-5 Catalina: 5 damaged PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged P-39D Airacobra: 1 damaged 3) Singers gets almost the same treatment as yesterday, less the junk aircraft. Consistent bombing of the airfield and supplies. The tiny bit of disruption the troops had from the shock attack is gone, but they are wondering how long the crumpets will last. BTW, these are crumpets: [image]local://upfiles/31387/19A0412DAD394EEA8A015AD7373F5080.jpg[/image] Singers supply was at 8300 at start of the turn. The second xAK sent in from Cocos had not yet made Palembang. A new second is started in today. Throwing the knife drawer at the problem, I order the only ship in Palembang, AG Deneb, to convert to a transport and head for Singers with its load of a few hundred supply. I call in a fleet boat from shallow water to load its couple of dozen. The Fast Transport TF finally breaks under the Full speed strain. One APD develops 13 engine damage from mid-single digits overnight, and its speed drag prevents the TF from getting back to Palembang. I will have to detach it and also lose a day's cycle. If the xAK ever gets to Singers I will have it pull out as much of an engineer unit as will fit, to reduce the draw. The only other thing I could do is send more and more xAKs into the cauldron. I'm willing, but few are in range to help. 4) At Taung Gyi a Chinese corps has moved into the hex, which is still defended by only a tank regiment which has been bombed a fair bit by Chinese heavies. The Japanese 4-stack (1 infantry, 1 engineer, 2 arty) coming off the battering three days ago at Meiktila is one hex to the west. A Chinese HQ is one day away, and several more Chinese corps are coming. One Chinese corps is moving down the grey road just to the west of TG to cut supplies, or threaten to. I don't have supply at Mandalay to make this a large, developing meeting engagement, but I want to draw a bit of a line here and if I can take out a tank regiment. So far they've been running rampant. I want to begin to exact a cost. So, more experimenting. 5) Kweiyang falls. The Chinese units around it will have a slower transit in Combat mode than they had planned. Tactical bombing takes a toll every turn. 6) Ansi, up the river valley north of Lanchow, is taken by 1st and 4th Cavalry Brigades. My former impression that the base just to the south was taken by paratroops appears incorrect. There are light roads off to the SE from there, but Lanchow to the south is an Allied stopper in the main supply route. To the north Urmachi (sp?) has light defenders and is building forts, but not enough to hold against two brigades. We will see if the VPs are worth the garrisons.

Canoerebel -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/15/2013 1:58:15 PM)
Those crumpets look like a failed attempt at making biscuits.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/15/2013 2:19:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel Those crumpets look like a failed attempt at making biscuits. They look like English muffins to me. Hey! Wait a min . . .[8D]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/15/2013 5:14:33 PM)
Just because I'd probably forget it otherwise, I just sent the turn back. Noticed that JB had gained an LCU, now at 9. Daily intel reported that Southern Army HQ is at JB. Whether it just arrived or it's been there as part of the former 8 units, it's there now. As Scooby Doo would say, "Ruh roh!" I also, by some scrounging and terminating unloading ops early, found four more cargo hulls at Cocos to send on to Palembang.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/16/2013 2:28:19 PM)
February 12, 1942 Life on a Northern Route Another slow day dominated by saturation bombing. I feel storm clouds gathering. 1) Off Hokkaido the patroling fleet boats don't attack, but do place three more TFs inside and outside the Sea of Japan. One of them, far to the north, is a submarine icon. Could be FOW, but if it's real this route, which is sub-optimal (hork!) for almost every patrol area except the Aleutians, points to a new danger for the Allies. I know there is a forward sub base at Johnson I.; I've seen subs docked there and gotten intermittent hits on an AS in the pack of ships seen by daily recon. Even Seattle/Puget Sound is easier to patrol from there than from the HI by this northern route. If it is a sub it could be forming a barrier or early-warning patrol zone west of Dutch. If it is going to Dutch or Kodiak I need to get tighter on my escorts. I've been cheating a bit since they are so precious in these months. Dutch itself has a decent infantry/CD defense cohort plus 28,000 supply and several engineer units. But despite building since the first day the AF is only at 19% to Level 1. The first winter is hard. Thus, no air assets at Dutch. I may have to find a way to spare a Cat unit from Pearl, but ops losses up there are brutal. 2) The night phase has no operations at all, a first I think. The day phase is dominated by heavy bombing runs at the usual suspects: Palembang, Singers, Bataan. Palembang goes very well. Japanese sweeps came in after the bombers, taking one of three Hurricanes left. But before that two raids, one escorted and one not, get hit pretty hard considering only three fighters. Two Nells downed in the ifrst, and three Bettys destroyed and seven damaged in the second. AF damage is very light due to disruption. At Singers flak damages 11 Nells and 13 Bettys, but get 2 more supply hits. This raid has 32 fighters in escort, but the Cobras are gone, having done their duty at sucking in CAP here for ops losses and fatigue. Bataan gets 24 Sallys and 25 Bettys and flak here hurts them as well, although the supply burn will not allow many more days like today. 3) Operating on coastwatcher info the PM Banshees attack the port at Madang, still the only Japanese possession in NG. Recon is performed as well, but the reported cargo ships are not found. One port damage point. I lose the Banshees in about a month and so far Japan has given them nothing to shoot at here. 4) The Chinese HQ moves into Taung Gyi, giving support to the corps already there. Another HQ is two days away to the east, and three more corps are between four and seven days, most coming from Lashio. I am railing in backstoppers to Meiktila. The Japanese 4-stack is still to the west of TG. Chinese bombers hit the tank unit, but do no visible damage. Think I will shift to supply bopmbing and see if I can get some results. Very large stacks of Chinese refugees are moving through the high mountains NW of Chungking. I think I have as many Chinese in Burma as supplies will support--maybe too many--so future Chinese LCUs will keep going onto a rail line for deployment in India. I have some Indian armor already in mind I want in Burma very much. 5) The last large piece of a new Aussie division arrives in Aden this turn. The others are already in Karachi. It will be rebuilt and sent to the Calcutta area as a ready reserve. 6) AG Deneb makes Singers with its paltry supply load. It is seen by Japanese float recon. In fact, recon all over the map is particularly intense this turn. The FT TF at Palembang strips the engine-damaged member away, loads, and launches with four APDs. This turn I reformed a Cat unit at Pearl which had been divided for recon/ASW. Set it on night torpedo naval attack on the very slight chance it might fly one of these nights on the massed BBs seen at Johnson I. As more and more time passes without the KB being seen the prospect of a heavy surface raid there continues to intrigue me. I have had a Sunk Ship report on Akagi for a solid month after a mine strike. I'm 90% sure it is FOW, but if Akagi was damaged the KB could be in home waters now. Yet another reason to have some, or many, subs working there. What to do, what to do . . .

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/18/2013 1:46:49 PM)
February 13, 1942 Up Nort (Again) 1) Yesterday's recon of Johnson I. showed only patrol-class vessels in TFs; the many BBs there for several weeks did not hit. Could be FOW, could be something. Taken all together--the intel reports of prep for Pearl invasion, the multi-day PH air battles in December which failed to knock out the CAP, the sub penetrations, the air battle over the Big Island, plus the taking of Johnson, Christmas and Palmyra--makes me think Japan had an early objective of attempting an invasion of Hawaii. Now, in mid-February and with the amphib bonus burning away, I think it's at least 70-30 Japan has given up this plan. A great deal of the IJN has been squatting at Johnson for six weeks. Now it might be gone. I've spoken too soon several times, and next turn might show me wrong, but it's what I would do. Far easier morsels to be taken elsewhere. I know Mike sometimes reads AARs and he's seen various NorPac ops. So it's possible the heavy surface forces have gone there to support a geographic expansion as winter moves toward spring. This turn the subs in the northern HI saw this: [image]local://upfiles/31387/2F648E41A85E4C739BE41B7506A95775.jpg[/image] Probably not a course for Sapporo, but with creative waypointing they could be. I will re-zone a couple of subs, but this could be a northern move. If so I can't do much right now. Dutch is as strong as I can afford. But if Johnson is open I might pay it a visit. 2) B-17s bomb Johnson for the first time in awhile. Only one Zero squadron of six comes up, and there is no real AA. No port damage, one Fort is lost. But no naval attacks are made either, despite high d/l from daily recon and very highly-rated Fort pilots. Again I think the heavies are not there. 3) Chinese bombers hit the tank regiment residing at Taung Gyi. No damage, maybe some disruption. Forces are maneuvering here; it will be several days before anything happens. Japan's 4-stack to the west has become a 9-stack. 4) Singers hit hard by air and Japan loses three Nells and many damaged. He may be doing the "when the flak stops, attack" metric. If so that may be in 4-5 days at the current burn rate. Several more cargo hulls fininsh at Cocos and are sent toward Palembang. A 3-ship TF unloading aircraft at Batavia is told to stay and re-load. The FT TF, now four APDs, runs in a load. The APD pierside at Palembang reduces engine damage from 13 to 4 in one turn, and will go solo tomorrow. The sub and AG Deneb drop their cargoes at Singers. Drips and drabs. Crumbs. But it keeps the AA guns firing and the Trojan Horse which is Singers standing up. 5) Heavy casualties on the open-country Chinese near Yenan trying to make Lanchow. They may be vaporized before they get out of range of the junk bombers in China. 6) At Kweiyang, where Japan has a tank regiment, they have overrun the Chinese on the road to the south and thus cut themselves off from supply. Chungking is next up the road and all those hexes are Allied. To the west as well. The Chinese refugees are not running, but moving into Kweiyang. They are undersupplied, in some cases non-supplied, but they are large in number. It may be possible to bloody some tanks before they continue. There is Japanese infantry to the south, so this is day-to-day, but the route bombing is taking a toll and this force in mid-China has a delaying mission to allow even larger stacks north of Chungking to pass west. Chinese Hudsons, rested and well-supplied at Chungking, strike the tanks in the city: Morning Air attack on 13th Tank Regiment, at 74,49 (Kweiyang) Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 1 minutes Allied aircraft A-29A Hudson x 8 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 8 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 7) The only land battle of the day. A clean-up operation by Japan on isolated, no-supply defenders on the Celebes. Ground combat at 74,100 (near Sidate) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 2292 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93 Defending force 561 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4 Japanese adjusted assault: 50 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 50 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-) experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Allied ground losses: 791 casualties reported Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 77 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Units destroyed 2 Assaulting units: I/66th Naval Guard Unit II/66th Naval Guard Unit Sasebo 2nd SNLF Defending units: Manado Garrison Battalion Manado Base Force

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/19/2013 6:08:27 PM)
February 14, 1942 The Watchmaker's Shop The confined area defined by Singers, Singkawang, Palembang and Oosthaven has defined this game to date. I feel like a watchmaker with my fingers inside a fragile ecosystem of forces and counterforces, with imperfect information, physical constraints, and lots of interlocking moving pieces. I searched for a better metaphor--chess maybe, with structured pawn play--but a watch case works for me. Today Japan did inject a surface TF into the mix, hurting the Allies. It was perfect timing with any air assets which could have responded out of position at Batavia. The move shows Japan is aware of resupply efforts. They are also aware on a daily basis of the status of Palembang's air field residents. I do not think they are aware of Force Z's location. Is it time to bring some or all of it into the watch case? Must decide next turn. All the merchants I can muster at Palembang to help extend Singers' life are worthless if IJN surface enforcers roam freely between the two. How much is it worth to keep Singers standing an extra week or ten days? 1) I-162 is operating deep in shallow water NE of Palembang and attacks a returning AG Deneb. Misses. I can use one or two APDs as ASW assets for a turn and try to get a few hits to drive it away. Or, I can peel off some of Force Z's gaggle of DDs and send them in. Or I can cross my fingers. 2) A 2-APD supply TF gets jumped by a cruiser TF on the way to Singers. They lose the surprise roll and don't get off a shot. Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkep at 49,87, Range 24,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Nachi CL Kinu DD Yakaze Allied Ships APD Bulmer, Shell hits 12, and is sunk APD Edsall, Shell hits 3, and is sunk Massive amounts of both air search and recon are happening inside the watch case. Multiple sighting hits on multiple merchants transiting to Palembang, so I need to do some things tomorrow. 3) Singers gets its daily pounding. Several bombers are destroyed, but also more supply, about 7% I believe. 4) Chinese bombers keep up the hits on the tanks at Taung Gyi. Chinese LCUs are still approaching this base, where one corps sits waiting. The Japanese 9-stack to the west grows to a 10-stack. 5) At Kweiyang the Allies get the best news of the day. All local Chinese troops move into the hex, owned by three IJA armor units which are cut off from their supply base in the south. The Chinese attack and retake the hex despite Japan benefiting from an inherited Forts 3, as well as cause three now-gutted Japanese armor units to retreat up the track toward Chungking. The Allies don't want Kweiyang; the armor will probably be pursued. If this shows Japan that Chinese troops can beat armor in the right conditions, and this lesson translates to Burma, so much the better. Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 39739 troops, 269 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1870 Defending force 1064 troops, 0 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 89 Allied adjusted assault: 635 Japanese adjusted defense: 83 Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Kweiyang !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-) experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 91 (82 destroyed, 9 disabled) Units retreated 3 Allied ground losses: 620 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 82 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 26th Chinese Corps 72nd Chinese Corps 58th Chinese Corps 10th Chinese Corps 73rd Chinese Corps 4th Chinese Corps 78th Chinese Corps 74th Chinese Corps 5th Construction Regiment 9th War Area 30th Group Army 29th Group Army 17th Chinese Base Force Defending units: 9th Armored Car Co 13th Tank Regiment 8th Armored Car Co

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/20/2013 1:51:25 AM)
February 15, 1942 Censored Just a crap day for the Allies. Going to be brief. 1) Wholesale slaughter by sub, surface, and air of resupply efforts at Singers. So sick and tired of not having any fighters which work. The roster of Allied losses: Japanese Ships SS I-164 Allied Ships xAP Van Cloon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage (sinks) Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkep at 49,87, Range 17,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Nachi CL Kinu DD Yakaze Allied Ships xAP Camphuys, Shell hits 13, and is sunk Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 G3M2 Nell x 23 Allied aircraft no flights No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses PBY-5 Catalina: 5 damaged Vildebeest III: 8 damaged Vildebeest III: 2 destroyed on ground Do-24K-1: 2 damaged Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 22 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses Vildebeest III: 9 damaged PBY-5 Catalina: 8 damaged Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 B5N1 Kate x 12 No Japanese losses Allied Ships xAP Kajang, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singkep at 49,88 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N1 Kate x 22 No Japanese losses Allied Ships xAP Kedah, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk 2) The mighty British Empire manages to haul themselves out of the bars long enough to "perform" "magnificently": Morning Air attack on TF, near Singkep at 49,87 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 2 Allied aircraft Albacore I x 5 Vildebeest III x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Albacore I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Vildebeest III: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Kinu DD Yakaze 3) The US forces bomb Singkawang and Djambi. Total take: 1 Babs, 2 Oil hits. Zero sweeps get two more Aircobras. 4) In China, pursuing infantry catches unsupplied refugees west of Yenan and engage in yet another slaughter: Ground combat at 86,38 (near Yenan) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 5750 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 201 Defending force 4322 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 28 Japanese adjusted assault: 187 Allied adjusted defense: 29 Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), morale(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 61 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 1003 casualties reported Squads: 60 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 83 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled Guns lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled) Units retreated 1 5) The lone bright spot on the day: Allies re-take Taung Gyi and clock another armored regiment. Ground combat at Taung Gyi (59,48) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 9159 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 667 Defending force 405 troops, 0 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 39 Allied adjusted assault: 101 Japanese adjusted defense: 13 Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Taung Gyi !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: Vehicles lost 72 (72 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Allied ground losses: 261 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps 5th Chinese Corps 6th Chinese Corps 19th Group Army Defending units: 14th Tank Regiment I'm going to go and drink now.

BBfanboy -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/20/2013 4:15:52 AM)
I hope eliminating those tankettes doesn't mean the unit gets upgraded to real tanks more quickly!

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/20/2013 4:48:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy I hope eliminating those tankettes doesn't mean the unit gets upgraded to real tanks more quickly! I can't hear you! I'm drinking! [:'(] Did another turn after this one. If there's a sub it's headed for the Palembang area. I came "this" close to ordering five BBs and seven cruisers to go hit Johnson I., where recon says there are four BBs and nothing else (right), but I didn't. Ordered very heavy recon instead. Don't do turns when you're angry.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/20/2013 6:54:05 PM)
February 16, 1942 Airborne Clown Cars OK, not a great title. But how I felt watching the movie today as every piece of junk I could throw into the air tried to open a hole to Singers. A MKB showed up, (not) helpfully. But about 1500 supply did get unloaded at Singers, and some valuable intel was gained. We've been playing since late September and we're still in mid-February. I can't recall what a working fighter looks like. 1) I-162 continues to be the bane of my existence as it sinks another xAP loaded for Singers, this time south of yesterday's datum. I think I have a grip on the end-points of its zone now. I sent a 3-DD ASW TF in from Cocos to Batavia to hunt it--all are ASW 8 rated--but the MKB coming across the northern Java Sea helpfully bombs them in Batavia harbor, putting a 250 KG bomb into HMS Jupiter. The other two will be day-to-day until the MKB leaves or is frightened into sinking on its own. 2) Palembang strikes not too bad. Three Nells destroyed for one Cat on the ground. Some Bettys damaged in exchange for a dead Beest. Zero sweeps mostly find nothing. Intel gives Southern Army changing prep to Palembang, so he must think Singers is about toasted. 3) Singers gets 150ish bombers and damages over two score and several destroyed. Oscars in escort most of the time, even though the "CAP scare" is about a week ago now. Feels like a month. 4) The cruiser TF squats at the same place as yesterday, Singkep Island, south of Singers. A world of hurt is headed that way, but not yet. The TBs do fly in two waves, Beests and Albacores, are salughtered, and do no damage. One strike: Morning Air attack on TF, near Singkep at 49,87 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft Vildebeest III x 15 Hurricane IIb Trop x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Vildebeest III: 5 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Nachi The B-26s go in at 100 feet and strafe, but no bomb hits. The Banshees, with very poor naval skills, do their best, but also miss. This TF will get all or most supply ships sent past. I have a few more to spare, but time is the key variable. Singers is at 5000 supply, and uses about 1300/day with no combat or replacements. To respond to this stopper I have roughly ten subs headed in to shallow water, the ready-response cruiser/DD TF at Soerbaja is available, although there is a MKB between it and the IJN cruisers, the ASW DDs could do a suicide run and try to damage them enough to force them off station, and there is, longer term, the RN core up at Colombo which has two weak RN carriers and old BBs and modern CAs. Force Z moves closer to Java today, but a Walrus finds a sub on the IO side of Java, so it will pull back. I am saving Z for Oosthaven/Merak, and if not there Soerbaja later. Driving POW up into the Java Sea with the numbers of Nellys he has in the area would be suicide with my fighter situation. 5) A lot of troop bombing at Kweiyang. All Chinese LCUs except one corps and one HQ are ordered to force march west on the gray roads. The retreated Japanese armor units from yesterday are north of a small river and the time and potential for shock attack are not a good trade. They are isolated from supply until they come across the river and find an open hex, or they can attack Kweiyang's defenders in urban terrain, again without supply. All I want is to get the westbound units away. He can have the city in a few days. If the infantry from the south comes in it may not hold that long. 6) Burma is quiet. More Chinese HQs and infantry enter Tuang Gyi and dig in. If the large stack to the west wants a fight they'll get it. All the Chinese are there for is bleeding the enemy while the Japanese are in malaria country, and to buy time for Mandalay to build and Chittagong to become a huge pile of supply. 7) Batavia B-17s do 2 more Oil damage points on Djambi. Recon shows Oil there has 59 damage now. 59,000 supply to fix it; I like. Since he's taken Djambi Palembang has no oil supply and stocks are in the high-40ks. When/if he takes Palembang it'll be sub-optimal production for awhile. Palembang, even with trying to supply Singers, has 83,000 supply. 8) Chungking Forts go to 7. Will stop for a bit and build supply, which is about 38,000. 9) Mass recon of Johnson shows an xAK, an ASW TF, and three BBs and a CA. Also the AF still at 1. With a troop limit of 6000 it isn't a stronghold. Why is he doing this? Why is he tying down capital ships? Bait? 10) Americal Division is ashore at Pearl, giving three full divisions in defense, plus trim. Forts will go to 5 in two days. Supply is at about 250,000 and fuel half-a-million. Most of the USN is there. I don't think he can make a credible attempt any longer.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/20/2013 10:58:03 PM)
February 17, 1942 Manila Falls I knew this would happen when I read in Mike's e-mail that the turn was "cool" because he got to hear Tokyo Rose twice. I knew one would be Manila since a 6-stack had moved there yesterday and the defenders were one half-strength Fililino infanty unit. But I was afraid the other would be Singers and a shock attack. I should have known he wouldn't be that much of a jerk. After I read a forum thread today about Air unit leaders and their stats I went through every Allied air unit until I ran out of PPs and upgraded the dogs. There weren't that many, and some are due to withdraw in sixty days or so and are on training, but there were enough front-line stiffs that I was glad I read the main forum. I have been reserving PPs for LCU COs, a few buy outs, and sub COs. But I've been getting kicked around in the air, so maybe it'll help. 1) The Batavia ASW TF, now two ships, finds I-164 right where I thought it would be. No damage, but the free lunch is over here, pal. 2) The other Tokyo Rose was this: Night Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 64,98, Range 1,000 Yards Japanese Ships APD Aoi, Shell hits 19, and is sunk PB Shonan Maru #6, Shell hits 3, and is sunk PB Shuko Maru #2, Shell hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Sumatra CL De Ruyter CL Marblehead DD Paul Jones DD Piet Hein DD Van Ghent ASW TF looking for any of the five subs I have closing the straits to Balikpapan. I debated doing this. The TF was headed back to Soerbaja and the MKB was last seen heading SE on the western side of the Java Sea. Figured it would come right across this TF's homeward course (it did.) But I thought this Japanese TF might have a tanker or two, so I reversed it and sent it in. 3) The MKB finds the surface TF. The MKB first tangled with a PT TF from Soerbaja in daylight. One PT sunk--at nine nautical miles--but I hoped to eat up some ops points when I planned the turn. Whether that happens or not I'm unsure, but I figured it was worth a try. Lower ops points might help the cruisers and DDs I hoped. The MKB was already east of the track about four hexes, and attacked the surface TF back the way it had come. This is this version of the MKB: Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo CVE Hosho CVE Taiyo CS Chiyoda CA Myoko DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Yukikaze DD Umikaze Two CLs take 250KG bombs. CL Sumatra is reported to be DIW. Not good. Some fighters get up from Soerbaja and cover it during the attack, which hleped a lot I believe. 4) South of Singers the IJN cruiser guards are not seen. Some supply flows into Singers I beleive. Don't know who got there or how much yet. Palembang bombing heavy, and more TBs are lost. 5) B-17s, one unit with a new CO, do 5 Oil damage at Djambi for loss of one Fort. 6) Japan once again lives by tanks, and tanks fail them. A shock attack on Lanchow does not go well. This base, which has organic suppply, has a tidy little garrison and Forts 3. They hold, and bombard as well. A counterattack may be a decent risk tomorrow. Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1025 troops, 4 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 96 Defending force 31212 troops, 170 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085 Japanese adjusted assault: 0 Allied adjusted defense: 1129 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 3) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), supply(-) Japanese ground losses: 485 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 22 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled) Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 3rd Tank Regiment 20th Recon Regiment Defending units: 11th Chinese Corps 259th Brigade 1st Chinese Corps 8th Route Army 81st Chinese Corps 8th Chinese Base Force 17th Group Army 19th Chinese Base Force 7) Pearl Forts go to 5.

Encircled -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 9:59:05 AM)
Yeah, I spent a good hour on checking my groups as well after reading that post! So much I need to know about this game

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 5:05:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled Yeah, I spent a good hour on checking my groups as well after reading that post! So much I need to know about this game My time allocations are very different than when playing the AI, that's for sure. I will spend some more time on it this morning now that I have 50 fresh PPs.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 5:06:21 PM)
Manila falls. Won't be the last ugly graph day like this. [image]local://upfiles/31387/79895A4369E04C2ABC8B8002C0AABDE4.jpg[/image]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 5:08:03 PM)
Air status [image]local://upfiles/31387/01AB49CDA616457799F5FC07A2DF0E17.jpg[/image]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 5:10:09 PM)
Japanese ship losses. Yes, ladies and germs, there's only this one screen. The Allies' is several. [image]local://upfiles/31387/C0AD6AB93E7A4B869371B23AA3C332D5.jpg[/image]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 5:11:54 PM)
Note that I'm virtually certain that CA Mikuma and CV Akagi are FOW. Probably others, including especially, subs.

ny59giants -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 6:08:37 PM)
Almost anything that is hit by a mine or torpedo shows up as sunk. Just part of FOW.

witpqs -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 6:12:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 Japanese ship losses. Yes, ladies and germs, there's only this one screen. The Allies' is several. [image]local://upfiles/31387/C0AD6AB93E7A4B869371B23AA3C332D5.jpg[/image] Moose - are you running Intel Monkey? If so then you already have Python installed. Try this (I just posted it): https://sites.google.com/site/staffmonkeys/sunk-ships-report See my AAR for a sample report posted there.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 8:06:39 PM)
I still haven't gotten to it, sorry. I know I could figure out Python, but I haven't yet. To be honest I'm finding that turns are taking a couple of hours many times, and that's with only about fifteen minutes on Tracker. I'm not sure I can stand another report utility right now.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Nothing Up My Sleeve: Magical Moose Tricks--Bullwinkle58 vs.1EyedJacks (1/21/2013 8:10:01 PM)
It's Martin Luther King, Jr. Day here in the USA, a national holiday. Mike is home, so we're flipping a turn or two. We have a high temperature of -4 F. forecasted, so I'm not going anywhere unless the house burns. Just sent one back. Operation NEUMAN is underway. Fingers crossed. [image]local://upfiles/31387/D5661C7F11CC4001830A94A12291A61B.jpg[/image]

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