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CatLord -> Odd question (12/16/2002 5:48:09 PM)
Now here is one odd question: When a crew goes out of its vehicle, sometimes it is armed, sometimes it is not (I cannot figure out why, but randomness, BTW). Now, if the crew is unarmed, and if I bring them back to their Immobilized or Abandonned vehicle, and if by luck they get back into it, and if after that, I ask them to bail out ("9" key), is there a chance that the second time they will get their misc. weapons ? This could make a real difference. For example, in a armoured train, the crew of a rail-gun is 42 men (!). Now, 42 armed or unarmed men is a big difference, sometimes... :D Kinda "Oh **** guys, we forget our pistols in the tank ! Let's go back to take them..." scenario :D :rolleyes: ;) Cat

Goblin -> (12/16/2002 7:40:40 PM)
LMAO! Just a guess, but I believe the computer checks each time they bail. It wasn't an odd question. Here's an odd question... Why does M4Jess like M4's? LOLOLOLOLOL!! :p Goblin

Voriax -> (12/16/2002 8:51:26 PM)
Hmm..in theory crew units should always have 'misc weapons' as there is only one 'crew' unit available in the oob's. That said, just yesterday I encountered a weaponless AT-gun crew in the Stalingrad campaign. So perhaps these weaponless crews appear only when the scenario/campaign battle is an old one, a pre-7.1 version? Perhaps back then crews were unarmed? (Can't remember myself...sooo long time ago) :) Weaponless crews might also be a bug...I just did some small testing and bailed out some 50 crews and they all had weapons... Voriax

AJVa -> Primary weapon is the key (12/16/2002 8:54:35 PM)
If the primary weapon (slot 1) of the vehicle is destroyed/jammed( missing from the list) and the crew bails out they get no misc. weapons only random number of smoke grenades that they can't use:mad:.

Irinami -> (12/16/2002 10:55:59 PM)
Secondary weapons being disabled don't take out the Crew's Misc. Small Arms then? I've never had a crew have to bail out from a secondary weapons disabling. ... I have had crews bail out after firing all their shots to deal with a precarious infantry threat, though. They had 2 shots with their Misc. Small Arms. Kinda' cheap, but...

AJVa -> (12/17/2002 7:34:47 PM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Irinami [B]Secondary weapons being disabled don't take out the Crew's Misc. Small Arms then?[/B][/QUOTE] I don't think so. Not 100% sure tho. [QUOTE][B] ... I have had crews bail out after firing all their shots to deal with a precarious infantry threat, though. They had 2 shots with their Misc. Small Arms. Kinda' cheap, but... [/B][/QUOTE] Hehe a bit risky but they have unlimited ammo and smoke stached in their vehicle.:D

Irinami -> (12/18/2002 6:14:22 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AJVa [B] Hehe a bit risky but they have unlimited ammo and smoke stached in their vehicle.:D [/B][/QUOTE] Heheh, yeah, I [I]have[/I] used those spare smoke shells on [I]more than one occasion.

Wolfleader -> (12/19/2002 4:39:43 AM)
Aside from the armoured train example, it does seem reasonable for the crew to lose their weapons while hurriedly evacuating a knocked out vehicle, after all they only have a handful of seconds to get out before being barbecued inside their tank. I've encountered this situation plenty of times but it didn't really impact me that much since I often have a kubelwagen or halftrack waiting near my tanks to evac my crewmen to safety in the event of a vehicle getting hit.

Wolfleader -> (12/19/2002 4:42:27 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Irinami [B]... I have had crews bail out after firing all their shots to deal with a precarious infantry threat, though. They had 2 shots with their Misc. Small Arms. Kinda' cheap, but... [/B][/QUOTE] Heh. Actually that might not be a bad way of simulating the crew sticking their pistols out of the pistol ports to take pot shots at nearby infantry.

Irinami -> (12/19/2002 6:11:42 AM)
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wolfleader [B]Heh. Actually that might not be a bad way of simulating the crew sticking their pistols out of the pistol ports to take pot shots at nearby infantry. [/B][/QUOTE] W00t! :D :D

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