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fodder -> OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/5/2012 1:50:25 PM)

I just heard on the TV that the USS Enterprise is to be sold for scrap. Bummer! [&:]
Most likely they are scrapping it so they can reuse the name, just like last time.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/05/enterprise-ends-51-year-career-at-sea.html?comp=7000023317828&rank=1





Hiltibrant -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/5/2012 2:18:02 PM)

That was to be expected, though. Preserving a nuclear-powered vessel as a museum, especially one that has served as long as this incarnation of the Enterprise, must cost a shed-load of money. Still, that was one fine-looking ship.




dr.hal -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/5/2012 3:03:42 PM)

The Bainbridge and Long Beach are long gone, so I'm not surprised..... The last of the Nuc trio...




bradfordkay -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/5/2012 11:12:16 PM)

At this time there is no ship to be named Enterprise in the planning stages. I do hope that proud name will be continued...




pnzrgnral -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 12:31:19 AM)

With the way the Navy's been naming their ships the past forty-odd years, the next Enterprise will probably be an AR. Politicians have first dibs on carriers, it seems.




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 2:37:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pnzrgnral

With the way the Navy's been naming their ships the past forty-odd years, the next Enterprise will probably be an AR. Politicians have first dibs on carriers, it seems.


We don't build ARs anymore from what I recall. [:)]

The next class will be the Ford-class. Two have been named (USS Gerald R. Ford and USS John F. Kennedy.) There is an active petition circulating in Washington to name CVN-80 USS Enterprise. I suspect this will be the case. Proposed commissioning date in 2025; CVN-80 will replace USS Eisenhower.

The last seven ships of the Ford class have not been named or slotted.




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 2:43:52 AM)

Artist's conception of CVN-78, USS Gerald R. Ford:



[image]local://upfiles/31387/6AC4E755DBC7492984042AD3A8275A75.jpg[/image]




wdolson -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 3:03:48 AM)

Many old carrier names have been recycled as cruisers.

Bill




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 3:06:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: wdolson

Many old carrier names have been recycled as cruisers.

Bill


True. That was the naming convention for the Ticonderoga/Aegis class. But I don't think Enterprise will ever be anything but a carrier.




1EyedJacks -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 5:21:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


quote:

ORIGINAL: wdolson

Many old carrier names have been recycled as cruisers.

Bill


True. That was the naming convention for the Ticonderoga/Aegis class. But I don't think Enterprise will ever be anything but a carrier.


Or a Starship... [;)]




Hiltibrant -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 5:55:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pnzrgnral

With the way the Navy's been naming their ships the past forty-odd years, the next Enterprise will probably be an AR. Politicians have first dibs on carriers, it seems.


Bring on the USS McGovern, USS Mondale and USS Charles Pinckney - may they serve the US better than their namesakes




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 6:00:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hiltibrant

quote:

ORIGINAL: pnzrgnral

With the way the Navy's been naming their ships the past forty-odd years, the next Enterprise will probably be an AR. Politicians have first dibs on carriers, it seems.


Bring on the USS McGovern, USS Mondale and USS Charles Pinckney - may they serve the US better than their namesakes


George McGovern died a far better man than the man who beat him for president. Do a little research on the man's life and get back to us.




Hiltibrant -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 7:06:19 PM)

Didn't mean to step on toes. Guess it was a poor choice of words on my part - sorry. I just reached for some well-known runners-up for the Presidency, and somehow McGovern is one of the first to come to my mind.




Alekks -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 8:23:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Artist's conception of CVN-78, USS Gerald R. Ford:



[image]local://upfiles/31387/6AC4E755DBC7492984042AD3A8275A75.jpg[/image]


If they keep moving the island further back on these designs, they'll wind up towing it behind the carrier. Note original Nimitz CVN-68 island location to later Nimitz-class carriers then to the artist concept of the Ford :)




chuckj118 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 11:00:24 PM)

George McGovern was some kind of naval aviator hero in WW2. I am not familiar with the details.




KMCCARTHY -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 11:32:36 PM)

He flew B-24 bombers in Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McGovern




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/6/2012 11:35:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KMCCARTHY

He flew B-24 bombers in Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McGovern


And won the DFC.




reg113 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (11/9/2012 7:27:45 PM)

I was aboard Big E for her 10th Birthday Party. Can't believe it was that long ago.




Ldeathbow -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (12/4/2012 3:31:02 AM)

I don't get to the forums often, but I saw this and had to comment.

Some time ago I bought a documentary from the History Channel entitled "Battle 360 - USS Enterprise" covering the exploits of CV-6 (or CV(N)-6 as she was later known (after the first night mission off a carrier).

To make a long stroy short.....near the end of the series, in an interview with one of the crew from CV-6, it was mentioned that despite a public/political effort to "buy" CV-6 and make her a museum, Enterprise was sold for scrap. The crewmember, IIRC, expressed mixed emoitions - he was sorry to see her go, but happy that she "died" with a modicum of respect, not turned into a "playground" for a bunch of screaming tourist that probably would never truely appreciate what she had done.

Let the Queen Mary, a pleasure craft, continue to be a pleasure craft as a mesuem...let a warship (especially any that saw active duty and was the last place on earth that some men stood) serve it's purpose (and move on).

Just my 2 cents worth




AW1Steve -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (12/5/2012 2:23:44 PM)

Enterprise will probably be renamed before launch as soon as another prominate politician drops dead and his party will rush to honor him (or her). [:(]




castor troy -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (12/5/2012 4:01:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Enterprise will probably be renamed before launch as soon as another prominate politician drops dead and his party will rush to honor him (or her). [:(]



just curious, is there a big ship in the USN named after a woman?




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (12/5/2012 4:23:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy


quote:

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Enterprise will probably be renamed before launch as soon as another prominate politician drops dead and his party will rush to honor him (or her). [:(]



just curious, is there a big ship in the USN named after a woman?


USS Hopper (DDG-70) is the biggest I can think of.




SpitfireIX -> RE: OT: USS Enterprise to be scrapped! (12/5/2012 4:38:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy


quote:

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Enterprise will probably be renamed before launch as soon as another prominate politician drops dead and his party will rush to honor him (or her). [:(]



just curious, is there a big ship in the USN named after a woman?

List of U.S. military vessels named after women

This list may be incomplete; there were four US Navy ships named for Pocahontas, including a second-rate steam sloop that served in combat during the American Civil War.

Also, as I mentioned in the other thread, I think that renaming is unlikely, because there would be a huge push-back from the Navy, IMO.




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