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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/15/2013 1:03:53 PM)

12th "Panzer" Division



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loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/15/2013 2:14:24 PM)

ach at least your one decent tank is very experienced ...



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/15/2013 2:25:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: loki100

ach at least your one decent tank is very experienced ...


^^



carlkay58 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 1:02:50 AM)

The fatigue levels are killing you! Pull them back and refit for one or two turns to recover the fatigue and you will be pleasantly surprised at their CV recovery.



cpt flam -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 9:34:02 AM)

having put a flamm Pz Bn increase a lot their need in fuel, you must know[;)]



randallw -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 9:48:34 AM)

12th Panzer actually has six good tanks...but five of them are broken. [:D]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 1:31:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

The fatigue levels are killing you! Pull them back and refit for one or two turns to recover the fatigue and you will be pleasantly surprised at their CV recovery.



Had it been earlier in the season, I would, but not now.


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 1:32:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cpt flam

having put a flamm Pz Bn increase a lot their need in fuel, you must know[;)]


WHAT!? Extra tanks that even BURN fuel increases the fuel need??? [:D]
Hehe every bit of extra CV was/is needed, the fuel consumption is not my biggest worry [:)]


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 1:33:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw

12th Panzer actually has six good tanks...but five of them are broken. [:D]


What, are you saying that the PzI, II and 38s are NOT good tanks?! [:D]


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/16/2013 1:38:56 PM)

Turn 18 aka too little too late

Overall
We start bombing the last port supplying LG, but it will not be enough, and it does not help that we force the river at one more location. We are running out of time! The USSR pulls back once more, but not before reopening some of the pockets from last turn. I now have to start thinking about the march west....
The USSR launches 4 attacks and score 4 retreats (Amazing how they just manages to get enough CV adjustment to get that 1:1), while we only manage 13 attacks for a score of 3 helds, 9 retreats and 1 surrender this turn.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
3.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
7.

Losses
USSR : 38.000 troops, 487 guns, 187 AFVs, 128 AC.
Axis : 37.000 troops, 285 guns, 95 AFVs, 62 AC.
Losses report is fubar again...

USSR units destroyed
1 Tank Division, 1 Rifle Division, 1 AT artillery Brigade.

German Pools
Manpower : 335
Vehicles : 162.396
Armaments : 31.579
Hiwi : 80.861



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randallw -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/18/2013 8:45:02 AM)

I'm telling ya, surrender is your best surprise weapon at this moment. [:'(]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/18/2013 9:02:41 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw

I'm telling ya, surrender is your best surprise weapon at this moment. [:'(]


[:D]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/18/2013 9:45:54 AM)

Turn 19

Overall
Since the port bombed last turn had repaired a little bit, and the bomb runs this turn only managed to get the damage up to last turns damage, AND we got alot of annoying held results in the LG sector, AND Blizzard is around the corner, Leningrad will not fall in this game either...
My FBGs are now desperately repairing railroads going west, and my panzers are not sent out this turn. Instead the first stacks are moving towards railroads and will soon ship west. Next turn the general retreat will most likely take place, and we will fall back untill we reach the "hey we do not freeze anymore"-line, and try for a good -42 instead (although the picture below makes me doubt it).
As usual the USSR attacks and pushes back a panzer stack, freeing alot of their trapped units. 6 USSR attacks results in 3 helds and 3 retreats, while our 34 attacks gives a result of 10 helds, 23 retreats and 1 surrender. I have NO idea why I keep trying hasty attacks, telling me that "hey, I do have a 4:1 ratio before battle. It will do", when I know that it will not...

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
4.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
5.

Losses
USSR : 90.000 troops, 886 guns, 78 AFVs, 84 AC.
Axis : 34.000 troops, 330 guns, 107 AFVs, 81 AC.

USSR units destroyed
1 Tank Division, 2 Rifle Divisions, 1 Guards Rifle Division.

German Pools
Manpower : 568
Vehicles : 155.605
Armaments : 37.249
Hiwi : 82.987




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loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/18/2013 11:18:43 AM)

there really is only suitable message at this stage:




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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/19/2013 8:54:48 AM)

Not sure if you think about the actual image or the song that goes with that peculiar instance [:D]
We shall see what I am able to do in -42, do or die for sure.


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/19/2013 9:48:26 AM)

Turn 20 aka entering the boring phase

Overall
Weather is a mix of mud and winter, and the ground is starting to freeze (lvl 4 and 1) in the eastern most areas.
The USSR launched 3 attacks and scored 1 held and 2 retreats, opening a pocket as usual. We are railing more units back home, and shorten the frontline somewhat. The goal is to have all minors and panzers back before the blizzard hits, and then let the infantry fall back 3 hexes per turn. We do make 3 attacks this turn, and cause 1 retreat, 1 rout and 1 surrender. That is all.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
1.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.

Losses
USSR : 19.000 troops, 200 guns, 120 AFVs, 30 AC.
Axis : 30.000 troops, 180 guns, 43 AFVs, 11 AC.
Messed up again...

USSR units destroyed
1 Rifle Division.

German Pools
Manpower : 76
Vehicles : 149.898
Armaments : 40.099
Hiwi : 85.625



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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/20/2013 10:02:17 AM)

Turn 21

Overall
We continue to ship panzers west. By now the line is held by nothing but infantry, so in that regard we are ready for winter to set in, but I prefer some more turns so that I am done shipping out the panzers before the winter starts.
The USSR launches 2 attacks scoring a retreat result on both.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.

Losses
USSR : 1.000 troops, 9 guns, 0 AFVs, 7 AC.
Axis : 22.000 troops, 90 guns, 17 AFVs, 9 AC.
Messed up again...

USSR units destroyed
None.

German Pools
Manpower : 43
Vehicles : 144.698
Armaments : 51.453
Hiwi : 86.967




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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/21/2013 8:34:50 AM)

Turn 22

Overall
OKH recieved the following message from Führer-HQ this turn;
"X>72 + Y<95".
We keep railing units to Poland and Germany, and march our minors towards Rumania (see below). We made no attacks, while the USSR made 3, scoring 1 held and 2 retreats.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.

Losses
USSR : 32.000 troops, 128 guns, 105 AFVs, 95 AC.
Axis : 19.000 troops, 68 guns, 17 AFVs, 14 AC.

USSR units destroyed
None.

German Pools
Manpower : 20
Vehicles : 139.339
Armaments : 66.834
Hiwi : 87.667
I need to find something to disband and/or reduce TOE for.




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cpt flam -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/21/2013 9:42:29 AM)

at least your armament pool is growing [;)]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/21/2013 10:07:34 AM)

Hehehe yeah



randallw -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/22/2013 8:23:55 AM)

Romania entered the war to gain 60 miles of empty land! [:D]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/22/2013 10:44:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: randallw

Romania entered the war to gain 60 miles of empty land! [:D]


Hey hey 60 miles all along their borders please [:D]



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/22/2013 10:50:25 AM)

Turn 23

Overall
We sent the map below to Führer-HQ to show how good care we are taking of his precious panzers. Most are now back west. Then we need to prepare to step backwards with the infantry as soon as the weather worsens. Losing less than 10 divisions will be acceptable, less than 7 will be good and less than 5 will be outstanding.
For once we outdid the USSR in success rate in our attacks as both our attacks resulted in a retreat while the USSR's 4 attacks gave 3 helds and 1 retreat. Rivers still "work", so not too surprised by the USSR held results.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.
This post will be removed for some turns from now on, as there will be no Axis offensive.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.
This post will be removed for some turns from now on, as there will be no Axis offensive.

Losses
USSR : 2.000 troops, 41 guns, 0 AFVs, 116 AC.
Axis : 19.000 troops, 73 guns, 15 AFVs, 22 AC.
Fubar...

USSR units destroyed
None.
This post will be removed for some turns from now on, as there will be no Axis offensive.

German Pools
Manpower : 55
Vehicles : 132.788
Armaments : 81.769
Hiwi : 88.420




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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/22/2013 4:14:51 PM)

Turn 24

Overall
The exodus continues, but we keep our infantry on the line. This is however the last turn as we enter December next turn. Apart from spending 300+ points on maximizing our generals, not much happens. The USSR launches 2 attacks and score 2 helds, while we launch 5 attacks and score 5 retreats.

Losses
USSR : 37.000 troops, 225 guns, 25 AFVs, 34 AC.
Axis : 18.000 troops, 74 guns, 12 AFVs, 13 AC.

Partisans
2 hunted down, 1 still on the map.

German Pools
Manpower : 0
Vehicles : 131.798
Armaments : 98.297
Hiwi : 89.218




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molchomor -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/22/2013 5:58:04 PM)

I think you should seriously consider keeping those minor mountain troops on the line and stack cities close to the front with panzers ?



Peltonx -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/23/2013 12:55:29 AM)

Just pull them all back like last game then rollem in 42 heheh

Worked before will work again.



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/23/2013 12:42:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: molchomor

I think you should seriously consider keeping those minor mountain troops on the line and stack cities close to the front with panzers ?


Next turn there will be no front line [;)]

Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/23/2013 12:43:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Just pull them all back like last game then rollem in 42 heheh

Worked before will work again.



That's the hope [:D]


Terje



terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/23/2013 1:18:22 PM)

Turn 25

Overall
Operation "I want my Mummy" begins, and all along (with one exception) the line we fall back 3 hexes. The USSR launched 1 attack this turn and scored a retreat. The goal now is to keep their number of attacks as low as possible and survive the winter more or less intact, and not look at the USSR OOB (6m...) as that will only make me depressed [:D]

Losses
USSR : 27.000 troops, 128 guns, 20 AFVs, 39 AC.
Axis : 19.000 troops, 62 guns, 11 AFVs, 10 AC.

Partisans
The one survivor from last turn is left on the map.

German Pools
Manpower : 0
Vehicles : 131.539
Armaments : 114.793
Hiwi : 90.066



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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (4/24/2013 1:53:31 PM)

Turn 26

Overall
Our retreats last turn mostly worked out, as the USSR only managed 9 attacks, scoring 3 helds and 6 retreats, and we kept our losses minimal (some 2.800 troops to combat casualties). Sean has hinted that he had a few things he wanted to try during the blizzard, and one of them was revealed this turn (see below).

Losses
USSR : 81 troops, 0 guns, 0 AFVs, 0 AC.
Axis : 56.000 troops, 29 guns, 8 AFVs, 12 AC.
Riiiiight....

Partisans
We retreated into one pushing it away, one is still on the map.

German Pools
Manpower : 0
Vehicles : 128.667
Armaments : 129.758
Hiwi : 90.941



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