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satch -> WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 10:49:18 PM)
Can anyone recommend a turn based WW2 Grand Strategy Game that is more in depth than Panzer General, but one that does not require a PHD to play. I am thinking of Advanced Tactics WW2, WW2 Time of Wrath, Commander: Europe at War Gold, Strategic War in Europe and Unity of Command ( last one not WW2 ). I do not want to spend hours micro managing, but do want some level of complexity.

warspite1 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 11:01:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: satch Can anyone recommend a turn based WW2 Grand Strategy Game that is more in depth than Panzer General, but one that does not require a PHD to play. I am thinking of Advanced Tactics WW2, WW2 Time of Wrath, Commander: Europe at War Gold, Strategic War in Europe and Unity of Command ( last one not WW2 ). I do not want to spend hours micro managing, but do want some level of complexity. warspite1 If you can wait a while then there is only one game to get - Matrix World In Flames [:)]

parusski -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 11:16:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: satch Can anyone recommend a turn based WW2 Grand Strategy Game that is more in depth than Panzer General, but one that does not require a PHD to play. I am thinking of Advanced Tactics WW2, WW2 Time of Wrath, Commander: Europe at War Gold, Strategic War in Europe and Unity of Command ( last one not WW2 ). I do not want to spend hours micro managing, but do want some level of complexity. warspite1 If you can wait a while then there is only one game to get - Matrix World In Flames [:)] But in all honesty that game is not expected to be released until sometime in 2104.

warspite1 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 11:25:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: parusski quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: satch Can anyone recommend a turn based WW2 Grand Strategy Game that is more in depth than Panzer General, but one that does not require a PHD to play. I am thinking of Advanced Tactics WW2, WW2 Time of Wrath, Commander: Europe at War Gold, Strategic War in Europe and Unity of Command ( last one not WW2 ). I do not want to spend hours micro managing, but do want some level of complexity. warspite1 If you can wait a while then there is only one game to get - Matrix World In Flames [:)] But in all honesty that game is not expected to be released until sometime in 2104. warspite1 To be fair I did say he needs to be able to wait a while....[;)]

satch -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 11:48:48 PM)
I would like to get a game before 2014. Anything else besides Warspite? How involved is it?

Rtwfreak -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 11:54:29 PM)
I'd say get Making History II: The War of the World. Turn based, easy to learn very interesting gameplay and possible outcomes.

warspite1 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/20/2013 11:56:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: satch I would like to get a game before 2014. Anything else besides Warspite? How involved is it? warspite1 satch the game will hopefully be out this year, but no one knows for certain. The game is a monster in terms of scope - the whole war Europe and Pacific and thousands of counters to move and command. However, it remains faithful to its strategic concept and there is none of the micro-managing you have with say WITP-AE. The board game is quite simply the best game ever and the computer game is designed to be a faithful reproduction. I would recommend you check out the Coming Soon and In Development section and take a look.

satch -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 12:13:57 AM)
Would you get Making History II, or Gold?

Wolfe1759 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 1:15:54 AM)
My recommendations would be, in order of my preference 1) Gary Grigsby's World at War a World Divided 2) Strategic Command 2 - either SC2 WW1 (it has a full ETO WW2 Campaign) or Global Conflict Gold 3) Commander Europe at War If you like Panzer General the Commander Europe at War may be your best bet, have a look at some of the AARs on the Matrix and Slitherine forums to get (what should be a fairly familiar if you are used to PG) a feel of the game. I have both Making History Gold and II but never really got into them as they felt too much alternative history (which is their objective) rather than a more historical representation, I don't so much want to manage and build economies / empires as fight WW2. I've got Time of Fury, Time of Wrath and Strategic War in Europe, the later is the best but all feel somewhat unfinished with a few niggly bugs / inconsistencies / AI issues. Unity of Command is a good game but it is operational rather than strategic.

SLAAKMAN -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 1:35:50 AM)
quote: satch Dont even wait. World in Flames can be played beautifully on Vassalengine. (Newbs such as Warspite1 think they mean well but are blinded by irresistable onanistic pulsations).[:D] http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:World_in_Flames

Aurelian -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 1:37:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: parusski quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: satch Can anyone recommend a turn based WW2 Grand Strategy Game that is more in depth than Panzer General, but one that does not require a PHD to play. I am thinking of Advanced Tactics WW2, WW2 Time of Wrath, Commander: Europe at War Gold, Strategic War in Europe and Unity of Command ( last one not WW2 ). I do not want to spend hours micro managing, but do want some level of complexity. warspite1 If you can wait a while then there is only one game to get - Matrix World In Flames [:)] But in all honesty that game is not expected to be released until sometime in 2104. That soon? I can wait.

parusski -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 1:42:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak I'd say get Making History II: The War of the World. Turn based, easy to learn very interesting gameplay and possible outcomes. I also recommend Making History II: The War of the World. Huge but playable.

Rtwfreak -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 2:08:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: parusski quote: ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak I'd say get Making History II: The War of the World. Turn based, easy to learn very interesting gameplay and possible outcomes. I also recommend Making History II: The War of the World. Huge but playable. SEE! ^ and when Parusski speaks people listen. [:'(]

warspite1 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 6:50:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN quote: satch Dont even wait. World in Flames can be played beautifully on Vassalengine. (Newbs such as Warspite1 think they mean well but are blinded by irresistable onanistic pulsations).[:D] http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:World_in_Flames warspite1 Slaak ol' son, that is the third or fourth post you made recently that has reference to certain male organ. What is the cause of such fascination I wonder? Am I right in saying you have reached puberty? [:D]

Chickenboy -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 12:38:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: satch I would like to get a game before 2014. Anything else besides Warspite? I am, as I have been for the last ten years, a vassal not of the vassal engine, but of War in the Pacific. Most recently the Admiral's Edition. Must not stray. All hail WiTP:AE! [&o] Some people (like Warspite1 and Parruski) prefer other less complex / micromanaging games. They also watch My Little Pony, drool and draw in crayon. Nothing wrong with that-Crayola needs their business and all-but nothing else captures the imagination like this game. It's a force of nature.

parusski -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 2:12:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: satch I would like to get a game before 2014. Anything else besides Warspite? I am, as I have been for the last ten years, a vassal not of the vassal engine, but of War in the Pacific. Most recently the Admiral's Edition. Must not stray. All hail WiTP:AE! [&o] Some people (like Warspite1 and Parruski) prefer other less complex / micromanaging games. They also watch My Little Pony, drool and draw in crayon. Nothing wrong with that-Crayola needs their business and all-but nothing else captures the imagination like this game. It's a force of nature. But we use only the highest quality crayons.

warspite1 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 3:43:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: satch I would like to get a game before 2014. Anything else besides Warspite? I am, as I have been for the last ten years, a vassal not of the vassal engine, but of War in the Pacific. Most recently the Admiral's Edition. Must not stray. All hail WiTP:AE! [&o] Some people (like Warspite1 and Parruski) prefer other less complex / micromanaging games. They also watch My Little Pony, drool and draw in crayon. Nothing wrong with that-Crayola needs their business and all-but nothing else captures the imagination like this game. It's a force of nature. warspite1 And what exactly is wrong with my choice of game? [image]local://upfiles/28156/74ADA49025574A9892340C6357EAE208.jpg[/image]

ezzler -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 3:54:53 PM)
Well I've had WITP since the very first day of release. And I'm happy to report that I've almost finished turn 1. The hardest bit was assigning every drafted soldier, sailor, airman to boot camp. Then reading all their evaluations and then assigning them each to a unit or further specialist training, or officer er school. But, I'm almost ready to press turn done. Some people say its a micromanagement hell, but I think the play balance is just about right. Oh Holy %^*P! I forgot the chaplains! I haven't assigned any! And I forgot to check the numbers of other religious minorities in each combat unit. Ahh well..just a few more weeks and TURN 1 will be all set to process.

Chickenboy -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 4:08:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 And what exactly is wrong with my choice of game? [image]local://upfiles/28156/74ADA49025574A9892340C6357EAE208.jpg[/image] Personally, I think bringing your toilet habits into this discussion is rather vulgar. On a related note, I assume that you also excel at these games? [image]local://upfiles/6968/E43224E581C94CC49D652DDAEE9CD160.jpg[/image] [image]local://upfiles/6968/DA20DE677C9D4D6B88990388B60A11A4.jpg[/image]

warspite1 -> RE: WW2 Grand Strategy Recommendations (4/21/2013 4:13:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chickenboy quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 And what exactly is wrong with my choice of game? [image]local://upfiles/28156/74ADA49025574A9892340C6357EAE208.jpg[/image] Personally, I think bringing your toilet habits into this discussion is rather vulgar. On a related note, I assume that you also excel at these games? [image]local://upfiles/6968/E43224E581C94CC49D652DDAEE9CD160.jpg[/image] [image]local://upfiles/6968/DA20DE677C9D4D6B88990388B60A11A4.jpg[/image] warspite1 No - they look a little complicated for my small brain.

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