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Cribtop -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:29:59 PM)
And, conversely, I've had a sub forced to surface and sink some small escorts with torps and deck gun fire in a surface battle. [;)]

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:41:52 PM)
Sept 19th 1942 and time to take a pictorial tour. In Burma the IJN has some CVLs/CVEs off the Burmese coast as well as what appears to be a mixed BB/CA TF. In response 4 USN and RN BBs as well as their cruiser and destroyer escorts decide to hold firm at Akyab. They are covered by about 140 RAF fighters while 2 USAAF squadrons are tasked to LRCAP Ramree. I've let him bomb there for the past week without interference so I'm hoping he'll have been lulled into a false sense of security. Overnight I imagine we'll see surface combat. In response I've pulled the infantry-loaded amphibs back to Chittagong whilst the amphibs carrying my OMG are staying at Akyab and unloading. Its a risk since there's a possibility the IJN could blast through my covering forces but since I need to unload the OMG TF in order to reload it with infantry etc this TF needs to stay at Akyab for a few days and so I have to risk it. [image]local://upfiles/10809/D5121818641E4A19B75F01C191F537FA.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:42:52 PM)
Well subs fighting it out on the surface is fairly common. I had one sink a DD. I've never seen a BB on its own engage a surfaced sub though.

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:45:07 PM)
The situation in China. Damian has decided to stay and fight as there are now 3 additional units at Amoy and the number of troops there has increased from about 8,000 to 29,000. Well, that's 1.5 divisions of his strategic reserve drawn off into China [:D] I'll attack, just in case, but I doubt I can break through 30,000+ IJA troops behind fixed defences. [image]local://upfiles/10809/F51D29F0099546408DBF22707254C360.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:47:46 PM)
And here you can see how I dislocated the riverline north of Katherine. Significant Allied forces are across the river. Overall my entire force is smaller than his BUT he can't stand and fight at the river because that would risk his entire force being cut off.... so he must retreat, even though his force is far superior and in supply. In the right corner you can see one of the bases in PNG I occupied as part of operation sneaky. I also managed to sneak troops into the base 92 miles from Port Moresby - which I'm rather chuffed with [8D] [image]local://upfiles/10809/9A79F7FB3D244021B75305D568EEB37E.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:55:22 PM)
And lastly the Aleutians. You can see 3 IJN TFs moving on Attu. I think he's going to land in the next 2 to 3 days. In response I'm moving my CA and fast BB TFs from Adak to Amchitka. I'm also moving 15,000 engineers and aviation support troops to Amchitka. That will let it become a Level 2 airfield tomorrow and let me base DBs and TBs from it ( I have 150 DBs and 30 TBs left over from the carrier debacle earlier ) IF he tries to land at Attu and I judge there's an opening. In addition I've loaded Adak with 160 B-17s and B-24s which should allow me to fly 280 tons of supplies per day into Shimushiri-Jima---- or mount CAP-wearying strikes on KB. We have an agreement that 4 Engined bombers shouldn't be used to conduct low-level naval strikes... I've looked at the AAA on IJN vessels and since 25mm AAA tops out at 7,000 feet I was thinking of sending my bombers in at 8,000 feet where they could draw the Zeroes to them and away from other airgroups. I kept Anchorage selected while taking the picture so that you could get a sense of the strategic DB/TB and HB reserve I've been holding back and training up while my PT boats etc have kept him occupied. [image]local://upfiles/10809/69E4E75C4C1749B49651ECD0B75F3AA2.jpg[/image]

desicat -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:59:01 PM)
So any thoughts on US COG or Critical Vulnerabilities?

Justus2 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 3:59:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 This made both Damian and myself laugh, USS Mississippi stumbled across an IJN sub which my ASW forces had mauled the previous day. The IJN sub was surfaced so USS Mississippi fired a single salvo from its aft 14 inch batteries and got a direct hit. Scratch one IJN sub. One shot, one kill BB vs sub kill. Is that a first in AE? [:D] There must be an award in it for the gunner, pretty small target to hit it on the first shot. He'll be getting free drinks off that story for years to come!

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 4:21:43 PM)
Well, in this game their critical vulnerability is, I believe, whether or not I choose to remain on the forum and finish the game. Short of that I don't see Damian being able to turn this one around. Apart from that though the critical vulnerability would be in xAP, AP/LST/LSI numbers. Without them opposed invasions cannot be carried out in an efficient manner - as I've been finding out due to the almost complete loss of xAPs/APs among the US fleet People always focus on CVs etc etc etc and while they reduce losses and grant more freedom of movement they aren't really critical.

Cribtop -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 4:28:05 PM)
Yeah, I had an image of the Gun Captain betting his peers he could make the shot, them laughing at him and putting their money down, then everyone saying Damnnnnn when he scored the bullseye. [:D]

House Stark -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 5:26:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nemo121 People always focus on CVs etc etc etc and while they reduce losses and grant more freedom of movement they aren't really critical. I'm looking forward to seeing how your air mobile offensive in CentPac goes, since that's the region where carriers are usually most critical for the advance.

Nemo121 -> RE: No fleet, no problem... (5/25/2013 5:55:28 PM)
Well, so far so good, I've moved forward over 1200 miles and created 2 strong bases each with roughly a regiment of troops as a garrison. I'm on track to relieve an island which housed 500+ AV of bypassed US troops and by rescuing the 4 Regiments of troops there I'll free sufficient infantry to enable me to garrison the 3rd phase of objectives. I've had bad experiences on this forum with a forumite intentionally leaking my plans to an opponent via PM so when something "sneaky" happens you shouldn't expect to get the details until such time as Damian uncovers it. So, so far so good.

Nemo121 -> Offerings to Khorne (5/27/2013 12:51:31 AM)
I don't normally post combat reports as my focus is more on strategy than how strategy plays out at the lowest levels. With that said sometimes posting a CR or portions of thereof is helpful. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 19, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Naganami DD Harukaze DD Karukaya DMS W-1 DMS W-22 LSD Akitsu Maru xAP Mizuho Maru xAP Kitano Maru xAP Koan Maru xAP Kobe Maru xAP Tango Maru xAP Kasado Maru xAP Kowa Maru xAP Palau Maru xAP Teifu Maru Allied Ships PT-25 PT-26 PT-46 PT-47 PT-67 PT-79 Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards Japanese TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 12,000 yards... Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 38 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-22 DMS W-1 4 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships DMS W-2, Shell hits 1 DMS W-3 Allied Ships PT-25, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-26, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT-46, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT-47, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-67, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-79, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 9,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards... Range closes to 8,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards Emmons, J. gains tactical advantage DMS W-3 engages PT-67 at 8,000 yards PT-47 sunk by DMS W-3 at 8,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards PT-67 sunk by DMS W-3 at 7,000 yards DMS W-3 engages PT-26 at 7,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards PT-79 sunk by DMS W-3 at 5,000 yards PT-25 sunk by DMS W-3 at 5,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards PT-46 sunk by DMS W-2 at 2,000 yards PT-26 engages DMS W-2 at 2,000 yards DMS W-2 engages PT-26 at 2,000 yards Emmons, J. orders Allied TF to disengage PT-26 sunk by DMS W-3 at 2,000 yards Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 64 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-3 DMS W-2 18 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 130 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-8 DMS W-7 4 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 131 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-6 DMS W-4 xAP Argentina Maru, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled 26 mines cleared This is going to matter a lot later on. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 257 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DD Hishu, Mine hits 1, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Attu Island at 151,49 Japanese Ships CV Soryu BB Haruna BB Kongo CS Chitose DD Kawakaze DD Akatsuki DD Umikaze Allied Ships SS Shark SS Shark launches 2 torpedoes at CV Soryu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Tone CA Takao CA Chokai CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CL Abukuma CL Tama CL Yubari DD Arashio DD Yugure DD Hatsuyuki DD Kamikaze Allied Ships PT-38 PT-61 PT-74 PT-75 PT-120, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-126 LOTS of CA vs PT action... eventually all the DDs end up sunk, 25 lost in a single evening. It was cause the moon is at 78% so spotting is easy for Japan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 8,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Kashima DD Hibiki DD Asakaze DMS W-4 DMS W-6 LSD Shinshu Maru xAP Argentina Maru, and is sunk xAP Miike Maru xAP Huzi Maru xAP Kokuryu Maru xAP Atsuta Maru xAP Kamo Maru xAP Teikyo Maru Allied Ships PT-28, Shell hits 2, and is sunk PT-29 PT-30 PT-42 PT-68 PT-115, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-123, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Japanese ground losses: 3457 casualties reported Squads: 142 destroyed, 34 disabled Non Combat: 139 destroyed, 48 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 17 (13 destroyed, 4 disabled) OUCH!!! Looks like Argentina Maru was carrying a Combat Regiment and looks like that regiment has mostly drowned. Score one for mines. Sub attack near Attu Island at 153,48 Japanese Ships xAK Azuchi Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PB Kiso Maru AV Kunikawa Maru xAP Dairen Maru xAP Montevideo Maru xAP Kanzyu Maru xAP Hakone Maru xAK Jinshu Maru xAK Hokkai Maru xAK Calcutta Maru DD Asanagi E Manazuru PB Daibu Maru Allied Ships SS S-32 Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 152,49, Range 24,000 Yards Japanese Ships CV Hiryu CV Soryu CV Shokaku CV Zuikaku CV Akagi CS Chitose BB Kongo BB Haruna DD Nowaki DD Samidare DD Kawakaze DD Umikaze DD Akatsuki Allied Ships PT-38 PT-61 PT-74 PT-75 PT-126 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Attu Island at 152,49 Japanese Ships PB Shotoku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage PB Saiko Maru Allied Ships SS Triton I set an ambush over Ramree and managed to down about 20 Japanese planes for the loss of 4 P-40Es. In later surface combat my PT boats sank 2 x IJN DMS which should help the minefields claim yet more victims over coming days. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Attu Island (153,49) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 11805 troops, 210 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 497 Defending force 7072 troops, 50 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 253 Japanese ground losses: 26 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 58th (Sep) Infantry Regiment 23rd Marine Regiment 161st Infantry Regiment 175th USAAF Base Force /1 101st USN Base Force 428th Coast AA Battalion B Det USN Port Svc 70th Cst AA Rgt /2 810th EAB /3 Defending units: 303rd Ind.Infantry Bn /1 22nd Recon Rgt /1 48th Recon Rgt /1 62nd Infantry Group /4 4th Raiding Regiment 302nd Ind.Infantry Bn /1 Ichiki Det. Maizuru 3rd SNLF /1 So, he'll need a LOT more troops than that. Tomorrow the BBs will go in. I will send in my CA TF and the two modern BBs. Unfortunately they haven't gotten their upgrades yet and they enter battle in damaged states. Still, I do NOT need them to win. I just need them to not lose too badly. If they can delay unloading for a little while then even if they suffer heavier losses I'll have bought the time I need to bolster Attu Island and create problems for Japan. Tomorrow I'll put fighters over Attu to kill some more of his fighters and then the next day, after the IJN CVs are weakened and their fleet is in more disarray, I'll bring in my dive, torpedo and level-bombers and seek to inflict significant losses. Overall today I downed 43 Japanese aircraft for 11 of my own. My exchange rate since taking over is about 3 to 1 which is quite acceptable at moving things along rapidly. [image]local://upfiles/10809/450197185B144DFB9616F09BE823B1CE.jpg[/image]

Capt. Harlock -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/27/2013 3:48:17 AM)
quote: LOTS of CA vs PT action... eventually all the DDs end up sunk, 25 lost in a single evening. I'm guessing you actually meant all the PT's were sunk -- 25 destroyers in one night would be a disaster for either side. Still, locating five Japanese fleet carriers sounds like exceedingly useful intel.

BBfanboy -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/27/2013 9:02:17 AM)
Very curious that SS Shark only launched two torps at Soryu. A CV is certainly worth a shot from every tube on that end of the sub. I wonder if he was out of forward torps and only had the two rear tubes to shoot. If that is not the case, I wonder if something in the leader stats influences this kind of weak attack?

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/27/2013 10:42:09 PM)
Yes, 25 PT boats. Although in today's turn it looks like I'm not far off losing that number of DDs. I think I lost about a dozen in various naval combat, a dozen DDs, 1 CL, 1 CA and 1 BB have all been sunk in vicious surface combat around Attu island. Details to follow.... [image]local://upfiles/10809/7400E6A1AD56405FBA02B1EA74DA36E1.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/27/2013 11:26:19 PM)
Is he really landing with battallions and indipendent regiments at Attu!?!? Damian made a huge mistake here!! He should have committed 2 full divisions, an Army HQ and possibly some artillery regiments... he will never win this battle. No matter how the naval thing will go, those IJA troops are doomed and were doomed from the very beginning

John 3rd -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 7:17:25 AM)
Concur with GreyJoy. Those should be ID and not small Inf Units. They shall not last long there. Your concentration of SS is fascinating. I rarely use more then 12-15 in a single area because Japan doesn't have a large amount of SS. How successful does this work out for you? Do you feel the concentration is worth it? Certainly has worked for intel purposes!

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 4:17:11 PM)
Greyjoy, Well, I think this is a case where its easy for people to point out a better way of doing things in theory while, in reality, that theoretical solution wouldn't have worked. Basically when I took over Attu island was completely unsupported by any bases west of Dutch Harbour and Dutch Harbour was largely undeveloped. There were something like 50 fighters in the entire region and there was only a single Regiment guarding Attu. Over the course of 3 weeks I managed to build 2 levels of forts, bring in 30,000 tons of supplies, over 400 AV, many engineer units and build up 2 more bases ( one to a Level 3 airfield and the other to Level 5 port and Level 4 airfield ) all while expanding Dutch harbour to a Level 6 port. I also brought in, during those three weeks, over 90,000 additional troops to the region. That's because I made the Aleutians the logistical focus of the entire Eastern side of the map. Damian knew he was working against a clock and rather than waiting to have the PP to buy out two divisions he went with a collection of small units he had scattered around bolstered by a few regiments he could buy out. If anything he delayed 1 week too long and should have taken the risk of hitting me with less earlier rather than waiting even longer to buy out a division. You'll note I've had no choice but to throw fragments of a division in also since my predecessor has committed regiments independently all over the map. Over the next month I plan to rescue trapped regiments and rebuild the regiments as divisions so that future operations have a more sustainable ground combat core. In any case don't make the mistake of thinking this force ( 250 AV or so ) is a force Damian considers sufficient. No, this is just what he has been able to land on Attu without suffering disablements or loss. Let's look at the math. 1. About half of the force he landed was disabled on landing by defences etc. So that means he must have landed about 500 AV already. 2. One of his largest troopships sank taking with it 140 combat squads - that's an infantry regiment worth of troops. 3. My SC TFs achieved their primary operational goal of disrupting enemy unloading such that the TF containing this 650AV didn't finish unloading and such that other amphibious TFs didn't unload anything. 4. By my count he has at least as many other amphibious ships in 2 other TFs. So, overall, I expect that he came for Attu with a force of about 1200 to 1300 AV, equivalent to roughly 4 divisions. 2 divisions wouldn't be nearly enough. With that said he didn't have 4 free divisions hanging around ( although it sounds like he has had to divert a division he was getting ready to commit to 2nd wave operations in the Aleutians to the southern China front where he is FT TFing in large combat formations ( about 1.5 divisions worth of troops ) ) and rather than give me the gift of more time ( which would have raised his force requirement to 8 divisions in another fortnight ) he went with what was available. Personally I think his problem was in asking the wrong question in formulating his strategy. He seems to have asked which of my bases he need to take to cut off resupply to the Kuriles. I don't think that was the correct question. Instead I think he just needed to ask which bases of mine he needed to render irrelevant to cut off resupply. If he had done that he could have arrived a week ago with a slightly smaller force ( 900 AV or so ) and taken 3 unoccupied islands, using KB and his air force to retard the growth of any of my bases in the vicinity and cutting Attu Island out of my SLOCs --- thus cutting everything downstream of Attu off from supply ( namely the Aleutians ). Waiting for the PP to buy out 4 divisions instead of going now with the odds and ends he had available would have been an even greater mistake. With the massive IJN naval superiority and IJAAF and IJNAF aerial superiority he could still easily pull this off, if he is willing to accept significant losses to his fleet and IJNAF formations. My guess is that he'll be less willing to lose 20% of his current fleet than I am willing to lose 80% of what is left to me ( although objectively those two loss rates will be fairly equal (although in favour of Japan ) in terms of total numbers and aren't an example of loss insensitivity, merely paying a necessary and small price given the strategic gain - the rescue of 3+ divisions of troops and priceless positional advantage ). Anyways on to the next turn now. As to the SS: Well, in the last 3 days they sank 4 ships and bounced a torpedo off an IJN carrier. They are forcing his cripples to re-route northward to go home and that extra distance will ensure some will sink. Lastly they are hedging KB into the waters east and north of the Aleutians which gives me positional advantage should I wish to attempt a strike on KB - something I will probably do in 2 to 3 days time. Most importantly though they are in the right place to form transport TFs and bring supplies into the Kuriles ( their primary mission ) once the IJn surface elements are no longer in the region.

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 4:35:28 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 20, 42 Another day of quite vicious fighting with heavy USN losses but, overall, my strategic objectives continue to be achieved. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Attu Island (153,49) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 484 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Hamakaze DD Harukaze LSD Akitsu Maru Japanese ground losses: 206 casualties reported Squads: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled) Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 64 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-3 DMS W-2 73 mines cleared Highly effective ships. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 257 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DD Kamikaze DD Yugure DD Arashio 3 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 131 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-6 DMS W-4 33 mines cleared -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Dutch Harbor at 170,50 Japanese Ships SS I-6 Allied Ships xAK Steel Seafarer, Torpedo hits 1, on fire xAK Florence D. xAK San Anselmo xAK Steel Trader xAK Knoxville City xAK Santa Teresa xAK Utahan xAK Canadian AM Adroit SS I-6 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Steel Seafarer AM Adroit fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Adroit fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Adroit fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Adroit fails to find sub, continues to search... AM Adroit fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna BB Hiei, Shell hits 1 BB Kirishima CA Chikuma CA Maya CA Chokai, Shell hits 4 DD Naganami, Shell hits 8, and is sunk DD Kagero DD Isokaze DD Kisaragi DD Nagatsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Mochizuki DD Karukaya Allied Ships BB North Carolina, Shell hits 5 BB South Dakota, Shell hits 6 CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 2 DD Mustin, Shell hits 1 DD O'Brien DD Helm DD Jarvis DD McCall DD Maury DD Drayton Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 78% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 78% moonlight: 2,000 yards CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 3,000 yards Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 3,000 yards DD Naganami sunk by BB South Dakota at 3,000 yards CLAA Atlanta launches Torpedoes at BB Hiei at 3,000 yards BB North Carolina fires at BB Kongo at 3,000 yards CLAA Atlanta launches Torpedoes at CA Chokai at 3,000 yards DD Mustin launches Torpedoes at DD Nagatsuki at 3,000 yards DD Mustin fires at DD Isokaze at 3,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards Unfortunately all the torpedoes miss. Still, over time, some are bound to hit so operations continue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 257 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DD Yukikaze, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Hatsuyuki 3 mines cleared That's great. That's about the 5th DD the Japanese have lost over the last 2 days. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Attu Island at 153,48 Japanese Ships DD Asanagi PB Myoken Maru PB Kiso Maru AV Kunikawa Maru xAP Dairen Maru xAP Manzyu Maru xAP Kanzyu Maru xAK Jinshu Maru xAK Hokkai Maru xAK Calcutta Maru E Manazuru PB Daibu Maru Allied Ships SS Grouper SS Grouper launches 4 torpedoes at DD Asanagi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Damar at 75,116 Japanese Ships DD Shirakumo xAP Kashima Maru DD Satsuki Allied Ships SS Swordfish SS Swordfish launches 4 torpedoes at DD Shirakumo DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Dutch Harbor at 170,50 Japanese Ships SS I-6 Allied Ships xAK Steel Seafarer, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage SS I-6 launches 2 torpedoes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 38 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-8, Mine hits 1, heavy damage DMS W-1 DD Minazuki DD Yayoi DD Hamakaze 38 mines cleared And a DMS follows. That's good because I'll be relying on mines to defend the Kuriles and getting rid of the DMS now makes that task easier. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Attu Island (153,49) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 271 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships LSD Akitsu Maru DD Hamakaze DD Harukaze Japanese ground losses: 150 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards There are relatively high numbers of squads being destroyed here. A testament to good defences and a highly disrupted landing - thanks to USN involvement. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Attu Island (153,49) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 492 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CL Kiso CL Kashii CL Kashima DD Asakaze LSD Shinshu Maru DD Hibiki Japanese ground losses: 247 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Allied ground losses: 73 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Attu Island (153,49) TF 131 troops unloading over beach at Attu Island, 153,49 Japanese ground losses: 551 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 65 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 8 (0 destroyed, 8 disabled) 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 61st Infantry Group 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 61st Infantry Group /2 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 102nd Infantry Rgt /2 17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 61st Infantry Group /4 2 Infantry Groups unload to join the fray in earnest. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Attu Island (153,49) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 250 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CL Kiso CL Kashii CL Kashima DD Asakaze LSD Shinshu Maru DD Hibiki Japanese ground losses: 77 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled DD Asakaze fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 64 encounters mine field at Attu Island (153,49) Japanese Ships DMS W-3 DMS W-2 80 mines cleared The last 2 DMS assigned to this operation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,50, Range 8,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna, Shell hits 7, on fire BB Hiei, Shell hits 2 BB Kirishima CA Chikuma, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CA Maya, Shell hits 1 CA Chokai DD Kagero DD Isokaze, Shell hits 3 DD Kisaragi DD Nagatsuki DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 1 DD Karukaya, Shell hits 6, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 15, and is sunk CL Raleigh, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage DD Buchanan, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Gansevoort DD Sims, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Hughes, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Anderson, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Russell, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Benham, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Cassin, Shell hits 13, and is sunk DD Porter, Shell hits 1 DD Allen, Shell hits 2 Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,50, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Hiei BB Kirishima CA Maya CA Chokai DD Kagero DD Kisaragi DD Mochizuki Haruna and a CA are missing, presumably having pulled back for repairs. Allied Ships PT-43, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT-44 PT-45 PT-78 PT-84, Shell hits 1 PT-128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 7,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Nagato, Shell hits 3 BB Mutsu, Shell hits 4 BB Fuso CA Tone, Shell hits 1 CA Takao, Shell hits 1 CA Aoba, Shell hits 2 CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 1 CL Abukuma, Shell hits 2 CL Tama CL Yubari, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Arashio DD Yugure, Shell hits 1 DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 1 DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships BB North Carolina, Shell hits 7 BB South Dakota, Shell hits 45, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Mustin, Shell hits 1, on fire DD O'Brien DD Helm DD Jarvis DD McCall DD Maury, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Drayton, Shell hits 6, heavy fires Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards South Dakota is a gonner but I think she's going to take one of the enemy CAs with her. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Attu Island at 152,48 Japanese Ships DD Maikaze Allied Ships SS S-32 Yet another submarine attack foiled by torpedoes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Attu Island at 151,51 Japanese Ships DD Kisaragi BB Kirishima BB Kongo CA Chokai CA Maya DD Kagero DD Mochizuki Allied Ships SS Greenling SS Greenling launches 4 torpedoes at DD Kisaragi DD Mochizuki fails to find sub and abandons search DD Kisaragi fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kisaragi fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kisaragi fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kisaragi fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kisaragi attacking submerged sub .... DD Kisaragi fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Medny Island at 150,47 Allied Ships SS S-43 SS S-43 is sighted by escort S-43 diving deep .... Sub escapes detection -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Tsiaotso , at 88,42 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 31 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 31 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 25000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft B4Y1 Jean x 17 B5N2 Kate x 23 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Runway hits 6 Port hits 2 The daily bombing of the Kuriles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 28 No Japanese losses Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 83,61 (Amoy) Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-27b Nate x 8 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 93 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 459 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 30 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 31 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 33 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 29 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 5th Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 32nd Chinese Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 92nd Chinese Corps, at 85,47 , near Sinyang Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 47 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Tsiaotso , at 88,42 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 1 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 8th Chinese Corps, at 83,49 , near Ichang Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 31 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 99th Chinese Corps, at 83,61 (Amoy) Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 23 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 168 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 23 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment ... Also attacking 99th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment ... Also attacking 99th Chinese Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 2 Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 41 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 11 Aircraft Attacking: 20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 59th Chinese Corps, at 83,61 (Amoy) Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 18 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 83 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 18 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Pakhoi at 72,58 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-51 Sonia x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships MTB 27 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 5000 feet Naval Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 3rd Prov Chinese Corps, at 92,34 (Paotow) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 37 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 7000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 2nd Construction Regiment ... Also attacking 3rd Prov Chinese Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,49 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 44 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 91 B5N2 Kate x 18 D3A1 Val x 53 Allied aircraft P-38F Lightning x 8 P-40B Warhawk x 14 F4F-3A Wildcat x 5 F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged D3A1 Val: 9 destroyed, 8 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Helm DD Drayton, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Jarvis, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires Well, it cost him the guts of a carrier air wing but he managed to finish off the BB. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,50 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N2 Kate x 9 D3A1 Val x 21 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 5 damaged Allied Ships CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Allen DD Buchanan, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Gansevoort, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires DD Porter Aircraft Attacking: 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Raleigh Massive explosion on DD Gansevoort They didn't stay under the large CAP i'd provided and they paid the price. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,48 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 16 B5N2 Kate x 16 No Japanese losses Allied Ships DD Mustin, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD O'Brien, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Amchitka Island at 158,52 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 43 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 85 B5N2 Kate x 32 D3A1 Val x 25 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk I x 3 I have 100 fighters here. I think only 3 taking off is just bad luck. Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 9 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships BB Oklahoma xAP Peter Silvester, Bomb hits 3, on fire CM Oglala xAP Edwin Markham, Bomb hits 2 xAK Mokihana, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk xAP James Schureman AM Quatsino xAK Waipo xAK Don Isidro, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage xAP William Dawes xAK Susan Luckenbach xAP Stephen J. Field, Bomb hits 2 DD Crane xAK Walter Luckenbach xAK Crown City Allied ground losses: Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Vehicles lost 7 (4 destroyed, 3 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,50 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 13 D3A1 Val x 18 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 4 damaged Allied Ships DD Porter, Bomb hits 3, on fire DD Gansevoort, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Agattu Island at 154,50 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 14 D3A1 Val x 19 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Russell, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Attu Island at 153,50 Japanese Ships DD Isokaze DD Nagatsuki Allied Ships SS Dolphin SS Dolphin launches 2 torpedoes at DD Isokaze Dolphin diving deep .... DD Nagatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Attu Island at 152,47 Japanese Ships CVE Unyo PB Isshin Maru xAKL Ronsan Maru xAKL Yamatsuru Maru xAKL Totai Maru DD Yunagi DD Uzuki DD Amatsukaze PB Yasushima Maru Allied Ships SS Albacore SS Albacore launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Unyo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Pago Pago at 149,162 Japanese Ships SS I-18 Allied Ships xAKL Nicarata, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage xAKL Nicarata is sighted by SS I-18 SS I-18 attacking on the surface -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Attu Island (153,49) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 247 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships LSD Akitsu Maru DD Hamakaze DD Harukaze Japanese ground losses: 157 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Attu Island (153,49) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 267 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships LSD Shinshu Maru DD Hibiki DD Asakaze Japanese ground losses: 89 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chuhsien (88,56) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 9649 troops, 80 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1253 Defending force 35345 troops, 150 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1230 Assaulting units: 22nd Division 17th Ind.Mixed Brigade 54th Division 20th Engineer Regiment 17th/A Division Defending units: 28th Chinese Corps 88th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps 70th Chinese Corps 16th Construction Regiment 3rd War Area 10th Group Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kaoping (89,42) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12133 troops, 102 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 472 Defending force 10234 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 335 Assaulting units: 15th Tank Regiment 41st Division Defending units: 76th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 75,125 (near Darwin) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 675 troops, 0 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 58 Defending force 187 troops, 18 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 3 Japanese adjusted assault: 29 Allied adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 29 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: leaders(-) Allied ground losses: Guns lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Assaulting units: 6th Tank Regiment Defending units: 641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion This was my lead outlflanking unit, got a bit ahead of itself and pays the price. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Attu Island (153,49) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 12615 troops, 222 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 549 Defending force 14061 troops, 139 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 437 Japanese ground losses: 79 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled) Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 23rd Marine Regiment 161st Infantry Regiment 2nd USMC Parachute Battalion 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 58th (Sep) Infantry Regiment 182nd Infantry Rgt /1 810th EAB /3 70th Cst AA Rgt /2 101st USN Base Force B Det USN Port Svc 175th USAAF Base Force /1 428th Coast AA Bn /1 Defending units: Ichiki Det. 4th Raiding Regiment Maizuru 3rd SNLF 102nd Infantry Regiment 22nd Recon Regiment 48th Recon Regiment 303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion 62nd Infantry Group 61st Infantry Group /1 302nd Ind.Infantry Battalion 144th Infantry Rgt /2 His AV is climbing. I'd expect it to top off at about 600 to 700 even accounting for 50% of his squads being disabled in landing. That's enough that this might just work. So what's the plan for tomorrow: Well, tomorrow I take advantage of the stress in the Aleutians to dart in and land 900 AV + engineers at Ramree as well as beginning its buildup into a major aerial and fleet base. The Chindit Bde is on the way and I'm eyeing his exit routes from Burma, looking to see if a Bde-sized parachute-drop could accomplish something strategically worthwhile. Otherwise I'll just drop the Bde on Bassein as the tanks go ashore in a week's time. It looks like I should be able to get about 900 AV of armoured combat power ashore. I think that'll be enough to blast through Japanese infantry on the plains. The USN will feed another BB TF into the fire around Attu and seek to pick off scattering enemy transport TFs with about 100 SBDs and 30 Avengers. The danger is they might hit KB instead in which case they'll die. If they can avoid hitting KB though they should cause alot of damage to enemy shipping.

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 5:13:28 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 21, 42 A VERY bloody turn indeed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 10,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Tone CA Takao CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CL Abukuma CL Tama DD Arashio DD Yugure DD Hatsuyuki Allied Ships PT-44 PT-45 PT-78 PT-84 PT-128 Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 85% moonlight: 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 26,000 Yards Japanese Ships PB Kure Maru #5 PB Saiko Maru SC Ch 7 SC Ch 8 SC Ch 9 xAK Daifuku Maru xAK Kotobuki Maru #5 xAK Kuraido Maru xAK Mansei Maru xAK Nasusan Maru xAK Nitiyo Maru xAK Nichiren Maru xAK Nisshun Maru xAK Nitiai Maru xAK Reiyo Maru xAK Samarang Maru xAK Satsuma Maru xAK Shinkoku Maru xAK Nitimei Maru xAK Shirashika Maru xAK Sumiyoshi Maru xAK Taihei Maru xAK Tempei Maru xAK Utide Maru xAK Zenoa Maru PB Tatsumi Maru Allied Ships DD Helm DD McCall Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 85% moonlight: 2,000 yards Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Dutch Harbor at 171,51 Japanese Ships SS I-22 Allied Ships YP-114 YP-116 SS I-22 launches 2 torpedoes at YP-114 Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships xAKL Ronsan Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire PB Yasushima Maru, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Helm DD McCall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Attu Island at 151,49 Japanese Ships DD Arashio DD Hatsuyuki DD Yugure Allied Ships SS S-46 SS S-46 is sighted by escort DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub and abandons search DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yugure fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships xAKL Ronsan Maru, Shell hits 13, and is sunk PB Yasushima Maru, Shell hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Oklahoma CA Minneapolis CL Detroit DD Frazier DD Dunlap DD Fanning DD Monaghan DD Ward DD Kennison DD Humphreys DD Hatfield DD Kane Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 85% moonlight: 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Yubari, Shell hits 8, and is sunk Yubari had been seriously damaged yesterday and is finished off today. News also comes through that the IJN CA torpedoed during naval combat yesterday has sunk just north of Attu. Allied Ships BB Oklahoma CA Minneapolis CL Detroit DD Frazier DD Dunlap DD Fanning DD Monaghan DD Ward DD Kennison DD Humphreys DD Hatfield DD Kane Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 152,51, Range 3,000 Yards Finally I get in amongst the amphibious shipping. Unfortunately the IJN PBs do their job and screen most of the transports from my attack. Japanese Ships PB Kure Maru #5, Shell hits 6, and is sunk PB Saiko Maru, Shell hits 22, and is sunk SC Ch 7 SC Ch 8 SC Ch 9, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Daifuku Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Kotobuki Maru #5, Shell hits 3, heavy fires xAK Kuraido Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire xAK Mansei Maru xAK Nasusan Maru xAK Nitiyo Maru xAK Nichiren Maru, Shell hits 1 xAK Nisshun Maru xAK Nitiai Maru xAK Reiyo Maru xAK Samarang Maru xAK Satsuma Maru xAK Shinkoku Maru xAK Nitimei Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Shirashika Maru xAK Sumiyoshi Maru xAK Taihei Maru xAK Tempei Maru xAK Utide Maru xAK Zenoa Maru PB Tatsumi Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Helm, Shell hits 1 DD McCall, Shell hits 2 Japanese ground losses: 364 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 3,000 yards PB Saiko Maru sunk by DD McCall at 2,000 yards Range increases to 3,000 yards xAK Zenoa Maru , xAK Utide Maru , xAK Tempei Maru , xAK Taihei Maru , xAK Sumiyoshi Maru screened from combat - escorted by PB Kure Maru #5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Tsiaotso , at 88,42 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 31 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 31 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 25000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N1 Kate x 17 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 22 Japanese aircraft losses B5N1 Kate: 4 damaged Port hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 17 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 1 minutes Japanese aircraft B4Y1 Jean x 17 No Japanese losses Port hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 17 x B4Y1 Jean bombing from 5000 feet Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 23 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 23 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 6000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 27 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7 Allied aircraft no flights No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 12 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 16 Aircraft Attacking: 27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 4000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft D3A1 Val x 12 Allied aircraft no flights No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x D3A1 Val bombing from 4000 feet * Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 94th Chinese Corps, at 87,44 , near Chengchow Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 0 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 20 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 129 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 94th Chinese Corps, at 87,44 , near Chengchow Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 25 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 146 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 25 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 82nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 94th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 82nd Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 94th Chinese Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 28 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 24 Aircraft Attacking: 28 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged Port hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 17 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 6000 feet Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-30 Ann x 38 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7 Allied aircraft no flights No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged Runway hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 26 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 5000 feet * Airfield Attack: 1 x 100 kg GP Bomb 12 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 5000 feet * Airfield Attack: 1 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 82nd Chinese Corps, at 87,44 , near Chengchow Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 5 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 75 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 5 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 54th Chinese Corps, at 81,61 (Chaochow) Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-27b Nate x 8 Ki-30 Ann x 3 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 66 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 238 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 31 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 35 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 79th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 54th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 54th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 54th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 54th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 54th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... Also attacking 54th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion, at 75,125 , near Darwin Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 29 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 13 (12 destroyed, 1 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 29 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion, at 75,125 , near Darwin Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 18 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 18 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 81,61 (Chaochow) Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-30 Ann x 8 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 30th Chinese Corps, at 85,47 , near Sinyang Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 16th Chinese Corps ... Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Tsiaotso , at 88,42 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 25000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 8th Chinese Corps, at 83,49 , near Ichang Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 21 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 59 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 21 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb The Japanese fly almost twice as many aerial missions as my forces. I don't believe in wasting effort on spurious missions so only fly what's necessary. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48 About 150,000 tons of transport shipping are currently unloading at Ramree so this is a BIG day!!!! Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 12 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 68 Allied aircraft Sea Hurricane Ib x 12 Martlet II x 7 Hurricane IIc Trop x 13 Kittyhawk IA x 9 P-40E Warhawk x 14 P-40K Warhawk x 17 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 destroyed Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed No Allied losses The CAP stopped the attack in its tracks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 62nd Chinese Corps, at 81,61 (Chaochow) Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 18 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 67 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 18 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Pakhoi at 72,58 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 1 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-51 Sonia x 3 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PT Q-111 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 5000 feet Naval Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 76th Chinese Corps, at 89,42 (Kaoping) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-Ia Helen x 20 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 64 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 20 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet * Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 104 Damn, KB moved to within 92 miles of Attu island. I had expected them to stay farther out in order to avoid SC TFs. So, since they were so close they were targeted by my strikes which means the strike packages ran into HORDES of Zeroes with predictable results. Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 35 F2A-3 Buffalo x 31 F4F-3A Wildcat x 4 F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 SBD-3 Dauntless x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 13 destroyed, 6 damaged Japanese Ships CV Hiryu CV Shokaku CS Chitose Aircraft Attacking: 1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 77 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 9 F4F-4 Wildcat x 15 SBD-3 Dauntless x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3A Wildcat: 2 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 9 destroyed No-one got through to make attack runs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 65 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 4 TBF-1 Avenger x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CV Soryu CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1 CV Shokaku Aircraft Attacking: 6 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb No ammo or fuel explosion but, hopefully, it'll cause this CV to be sent back to Japan for repair. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 57 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 51 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 SBD-3 Dauntless x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Akagi CV Soryu CV Hiryu Aircraft Attacking: 3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,48 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 5 We have agreed no 4E on low naval so I've sent them all in at 8,000 feet. They won't hit much but I was hoping that vs slow xAPs and xAKs they might get lucky. No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAP Dairen Maru xAP Kanzyu Maru Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb Carrier support unable to supply air cover.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 40 Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 2 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships DMS W-2 Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 152,52 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 2 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Nichiren Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,50 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 D3A1 Val x 2 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 1 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships BB Oklahoma Aircraft Attacking: 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb The BB TF strayed 46 miles from Attu, leaving it with no CAP!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,49 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 38 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 69 D3A1 Val x 10 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 5 F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships DD Porter, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 1 A6M2 Zero x 25 B5N2 Kate x 18 D3A1 Val x 6 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2 Allied aircraft Sea Hurricane Ib x 12 Martlet II x 6 Hurricane IIc Trop x 13 Kittyhawk IA x 9 P-40E Warhawk x 12 P-40K Warhawk x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Very heavy Japanese losses. These seem to be CVL and CVE-based units. Allied Ships CL Newcastle Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion, at 75,125 , near Darwin Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 5 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 5 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 5000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 37 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese Ships xAP Huzi Maru Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,48 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 3 Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships xAK Calcutta Maru Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb Carrier support unable to supply air cover.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 D3A1 Val x 25 Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 12 Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3 Allied aircraft Sea Hurricane Ib x 2 Martlet II x 3 Hurricane IIc Trop x 5 Kittyhawk IA x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 6 P-40K Warhawk x 8 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships xAK Texan xAK Kiangsu xAP Takliwa xAP Matang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires AMC Kanimbla, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Matang -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 141 Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 27 F4F-3A Wildcat x 8 F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 SBD-3 Dauntless x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 destroyed Nothing got through, again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 130 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 26 TBF-1 Avenger x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 3 destroyed TBF-1 Avenger: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Hiryu CV Zuikaku Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 116 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 10 SBD-3 Dauntless x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 3 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 90 Allied aircraft F2A-3 Buffalo x 3 SBD-3 Dauntless x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 78 Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 73 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 SBD-3 Dauntless x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 154,47 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 62 Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 2 B-17E Fortress x 9 B-24D Liberator x 4 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged Japanese Ships CV Hiryu xAK Tatuha Maru CV Akagi CVE Unyo Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 1 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,50 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 14 D3A1 Val x 10 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 3 F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BB Oklahoma Aircraft Attacking: 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 21 B5N2 Kate x 7 D3A1 Val x 4 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2 Allied aircraft Sea Hurricane Ib x 1 Martlet II x 3 Hurricane IIc Trop x 5 Kittyhawk IA x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 6 P-40K Warhawk x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged D3A1 Val: 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Allied Ships BB Valiant, Bomb hits 2 CL Birmingham CA Dorsetshire, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage She's badly damaged but will survive. Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Timoeka (86,116) Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships PB Tyuwa Maru xAP Hikawa Maru Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled PB Tyuwa Maru fired at enemy troops Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Timoeka (86,116) TF 149 troops unloading over beach at Timoeka, 86,116 Japanese ground losses: 121 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chuhsien (88,56) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 9694 troops, 80 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 1258 Defending force 35345 troops, 150 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1230 Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 17th Ind.Mixed Brigade 22nd Division 54th Division 20th Engineer Regiment 17th/A Division Defending units: 70th Chinese Corps 86th Chinese Corps 88th Chinese Corps 28th Chinese Corps 16th Construction Regiment 3rd War Area 10th Group Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kaoping (89,42) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12141 troops, 102 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 473 Defending force 10172 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 334 Assaulting units: 15th Tank Regiment 41st Division Defending units: 76th Chinese Corps -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Attu Island (153,49) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 13029 troops, 233 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 569 Defending force 14148 troops, 136 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 450 Japanese ground losses: 68 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 23rd Marine Regiment 2nd USMC Parachute Battalion 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 161st Infantry Regiment 58th (Sep) Infantry Regiment 182nd Infantry Rgt /1 B Det USN Port Svc 175th USAAF Base Force /1 810th EAB /3 70th Cst AA Rgt /2 101st USN Base Force 428th Coast AA Bn /1 Defending units: 102nd Infantry Regiment 4th Raiding Regiment 303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion 48th Recon Regiment 302nd Ind.Infantry Battalion 22nd Recon Regiment 61st Infantry Group 62nd Infantry Group Ichiki Det. Maizuru 3rd SNLF 144th Infantry Rgt /2 Very few additional troops got ashore overnight. I know he still has quite a few on the ships but they don't seem to be able to land safely yet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chaochow (81,61) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 29386 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1703 Defending force 1119 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Allied adjusted assault: 271 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 271 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Chaochow !!! Combat modifiers Defender: experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1544 casualties reported Squads: 51 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 The BN guarding the town was utterly wiped out. Nice work. Allied ground losses: 87 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 62nd Chinese Corps 9th Prov Chinese Corps 79th Chinese Corps 54th Chinese Corps 46th Chinese Corps 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps 12th Group Army Defending units: 69th Ind.Infantry Battalion Overall the Allies lost 170 planes to 90 Japanese planes, including 40+ Zeroes and another 20+ Vals. Most of my losses were SBDs - of which I have over 100 which is why I was willing to take the risk with them. It still looks like a score draw in the Aleutians - which is a win for me - but at Ramree it is an unconditional victory. I've landed an additional 930 AV to make 1200 AV at Ramree + about 500 engineer equivalents. It will expand very rapidly now. Tomorrow I send a cruiser TF into Rangoon harbour itself to create havoc among shipping unloading there which appears to be reinforcing this theatre. 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Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 5:16:45 PM)
I got a nice co-ordinated strike out of Attu and Adak, pity it wasted itself against KB instead of impaling all of those helpless xAPs and xAKs. I didn't have any torpedoes available - hell, 6 days ago I had no airfields available ;-) - so the Avengers had to level bomb from 8,000 feet. [image]local://upfiles/10809/B2C380F678C14C8D8FA8C127A5468899.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 5:18:52 PM)
Current IJA forces at Attu. It looks to me like about 8 Regiment equivalents, which with 1 sunk on the way there would have made a 3 division assault force. [image]local://upfiles/10809/2D35D4BD864F4A5EA2D8002FB1237A3F.jpg[/image]

Capt. Harlock -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 8:56:48 PM)
quote: The danger is they might hit KB instead in which case they'll die. If they can avoid hitting KB though they should cause alot of damage to enemy shipping. That turned out to be an uncomfortably accurate forecast. My own humble opinion is that what has been achieved in the Aleutians, while valuable, was not worth the losses -- but that's me. What is the victory point situation (or have you agreed to ignore auto-victory)?

poodlebrain -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 9:57:00 PM)
I thought the operational plan was worth the effort. I am just amazed at the difference in effectiveness of the Japanese vs. American forces. Offensively and defensively the Japanese forces demonstrated a superiority that was able to deal out greater damages to the Americans than expected while preventing losses commensurate with the American forces committed to battle. Based on the correlation of forces this was an overwhelming Japanese success and Allied failure if military losses are the only measure. Despite this the eventual fate of Attu, the geopgraphical objective, is still in question. Nemo definitely threw off the Japanese timetable, and he has created opportunities elsewhere in the war. So I'm not ready to write this off as a strategic defeat just yet.

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/28/2013 11:32:20 PM)
Ok how about a straw poll. How do people think things are going? I'll kick it off by giving my assessment. 1. Perception's a strange thing. I think my losses in the Aleutians are not at all lopsided - 1 BB, 1 CA, 1 CL, 1 CLAA and about 12 to 15 DDs in return for 1 IJN CA, 1 IJN CL and about 8 to 10 IJN DDs. In addition the IJN has lost 3 hugely precious DMS, 4 PBs and a few xAKs/xAPs as well as receiving a bomb through Akagi's deck. In the air I've lost about 300 planes in total, including today's losses and the IJN bombardments I had to allow early on and have destroyed somewhere between 200 and 250 of KB's planes ( including their pilots while most of mine have been saved ). In terms of losses I think the IJN is doing a little better in surface naval action - which isn't surprising as I've been having to send in damaged ships which haven't had their April 42 upgrades. In the air I'm way ahead in terms of pilots and modern airframes insofar as I've lost far fewer pilots and fewer modern airframes ( quite a few of my losses were obsolescent types which wouldn't be on the front line if I had a choice ). 2. Operationally things are, IMO, going entirely my way. He's dancing to my tune operationally despite having a numerically and qualitatively superior force. 3. Strategically this is achieving every strategic goal I've set: i) saving the Kuriles which gives me the ability to get at the Home Islands in 1943 without carrier support - a HUGELY important strategic coup. ii) marooning IJA ground troops such that the IJN gets drawn into support operations during which I can attrit them iii)forcing Damian to expend his strategic reserves to counter my moves instead of using them to create problems for me ( this is the same thing I'm doing in China ) iv) preventing the IJN from being able to concentrate its forces and crush the littoral campaign around Burma. v) maintaining an open front in which I can continue to attrition his aerial, naval and ground forces effectively at a cost sustainable to me but unsustainable to him. Really, from my point of view, tactically things are going as well as could be expected, operationally things are going well and strategically this is just a massive win. Poodlebrain, quote: Based on the correlation of forces this was an overwhelming Japanese success and Allied failure if military losses are the only measure. Ah, but losses are never the only measure. This operation has to be viewed in its strategic context to be valued properly and in that context I think it is a smashing Allied victory really as my strategic objectives are all being achieved. Also in terms of losses I just don't see what people are seeing as being so lopsided? The IJN has sunk a little more than I've sunk of them but not much more at all. As to the effectiveness... Well, the American forces missed their upgrades in April 1942 and many missed the August upgrades and most were committed to combat with significant unrepaired damage. I just didn't have the time available to repair them before they were required. As to the IJN dealing greater damage than expected - I'm not so sure about that. I never expected more from the USN than disrupting the landings while taking more serious losses than the IJN suffered - which is pretty much what has happened. The USN was NEVER going to beat the IJN in night-time or daytime naval combat around Attu. It just didn't have the necessary upgrades or crew experience. As I said, perspectives are interesting though. My thinking has shifted, after the last day, to going over to the offensive in the Aleutians and beginning to focus on supporting the Kuriles since I felt things were going so well in the Aleutians. Sure the Japanese have naval and aerial superiority but that isn't going to stop me from doing what I want to do in that theatre. I also can airbridge in half a regiment a day to Attu anytime I want to. I just amn't doing it yet since I don't want Damian to decide it is hopeless and pull all those troops out. I want them to be marooned there so he has to mount another major operation to take them off the island. Funny how people see things differently. I think a lot of this has to do with excessive sensitivity to losses and not comparing the losses to the strategic gains being made. I just don't see how any player could turn down losing a few BBs and 400 or 500 airplanes whilst dishing out about 75% of that damage to the Japanese PLUS maintaining two footholds in the Kuriles as anything other than a major strategic victory. Those footholds in the Kuriles will take a year to 18 months off the game and that will save multiples of 400 to 500 planes and multiples of the number of ships I've lost in the past few days. Each to their own though, I amn't deriding anyone's viewpoints or calculus. I'm just always surprised how large losses in a short period of time ( although be no means one-sided losses ) keep being viewed as bad while much, much larger losses over a longer period of time, incurred because of the foregoing of high loss, phased operations are accepted as somehow preferable or "better". It just mystifies me.

poodlebrain -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/29/2013 1:39:28 AM)
I think it will take a major commitment of manpower and material for the Japanese to pull their chestnuts out of the fire to achieve a strategic victory in the Aleutians, and I doubt they will make the commitment because they can't afford to ignore other threats. I did not want to speculate about future events, and I tried to keep my comments to current events. I believe I did acknowledge that control of the geography was the critical strategic element and not the losses. I honestly expected the Japanese would suffer greater losses than they did given the forces you had available, and the way in which you forced exposure of the Japanese forces.

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/29/2013 2:08:09 AM)
poodlebrain, Feel free to speculate. Hopefully readers enjoy reading the AAR. For me, the speculations and discussions sparked within it are what I enjoy. So, speculation's welcome. In my experience in 1942 the Japanese tend to run rampant even if a numerical accounting of forces would suggest otherwise. So, a well-organised USN TF with 4 BBs, a few CAs and a half-dozen DDs is likely to be steamrollered by an equivalent IJN TF and likely to be very roughly handled by even an IJN CA or DD/torpedo attack TF. Add in the fact that I had to engage the IJN at night to avoid KB sinking my ships before they could get into main gun range AND the fact that I had to engage them when moonlight was 78%+ ( which minimised the disadvantage to the IJN of fighting at night since ) and that my ships, because of their damage, were carrying all sorts of negative spotting and visibility bonuses and, really, it was never likely that the USN would actually achieve much attritionally. That's why, if you look back, I never expected much from the USN's commitment in terms of sinking IJN surface combatants. I only ever saw their commitment as disrupting the amphibious operations and spreading it over time such that I'd be able to accurately assess whether and/or how much I needed to fly in using the airbridge to have Attu hold. The plan always recognised that the USN couldn't beat or even draw with the IJN. The plan was all about how to accept those tactical losses but have them mean something operationally and strategically. In 1942 Allied surface combatants will suffer excessively in return for inflicting lower casualties UNLESS: 1) the USN upgrades religiously 2) takes care to create properly balanced TFs ( something most don't do and which I didn't have the luxury of doing during this operation ) 3) commits only undamaged shipping - this is particularly crucial at night 4) the US can fight night-time actions under the worst possible visibility conditions - since visibility impacts both sides equally it imposes a greater relative reduction on night-time efficiency on the side which is most effective at night, namely the Japanese. You'll note that night-time visibility conditions were worse on the 2nd night ( even though the raw % moonlight was superior ) and that USN combat results were far better on the 2nd night than the 1st even though the combat TF on the first night contained my most upgraded ( radar etc ) ships. I've noted that people either fail to account for this at night OR seek to commit the USN to night-time combat only when visibility is best in the belief that this gives the USN the best chance. This is precisely the opposite of what they should do given a systems analysis of night-time combat a la Lanchester which clearly shows that any improvement in USN performance will result in a greater baseline and adjusted performance by the IJN such that losses will increase logarithmically as damage inflicted decreases logarithmically the more "favourable" sighting conditions are for the USN. In any case I was unfortunate that on the 1st day when my premier combat assets went in that the weather was good and visibility was good at night - leading to predictably inferior outcomes - while on the second day the poorer night-time conditions allowed far weaker USN elements to inflict far greater losses on the IJN. Those are the vagaries of weather within the game. All you can do is set things up as best you can and recognise that chance will, over time, reward that but may, from time to time, choose to kick you in the groin irrespective of what you do [8D] I think its interesting though insofar as it highlights the perverse relationship between favourable conditions and favourable outcomes and how unfavourable conditions can often benefit the weaker side through lessening the relative dyscorrelation of forces. You rarely see people playing that side of the odds here, there's far more ( too much IMO ) focus on finding the most favourable conditions for one's own side as opposed to also looking for the least favourable for the other side - these are not necessarily one and the same.

Nemo121 -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/29/2013 3:12:05 AM)
Ramree: So, the use of the Eastern Fleet Naval HQ with 285 Naval Support to facilitate amphibious offloading at Ramree has allowed me to land 900+ AV and 500+ engineer equivalents + commensurate supporting elements in a single night. I'll have to withstand a couple of days of aerial assault with insufficient numbers of my own fighters to prevent leakers but, overall, losses should be relatively light - especially as I plan to let the IJN SC elements close their trap on empty air. I should explain, mini-KB is off the coast and visible in the picture below, just 2 hexes below my subs is a major IJN SC TF containing several BBs including, IMO, 1 to 2 Yamato class BBs. At Rangoon there are several IJN TFs unloading troops and supplies etc. Tomorrow I intend to send a strong cruiser TF into Rangoon harbour itself to engage the IJN TFs there as they unload. I want to make Damian worry about what I plan to do to him in this region and a raid into the harbour itself bypassing his carriers and surface combatants should do the job. Even if it is intercepted by his surface combatants there's a good chance I can strip escorts away through this action and that'll help even the odds when his BBs face mine. I'm going to continue loading armoured units and transporting them to Akyab while infantry units are moved to Ramree. In the end I'll bring approximately 2100 AV of infantry in to Ramree and have 900 AV of armour at Akyab. I'll then open up the 2nd phase of the littoral campaign. The question I need to answer now is how best to use the Chindits. I have about 80 transports available for them but I don't believe that that will suffice to let them take even a lightly defended base. This is a pity since I'd quite like to cut his forces in Burma off using paradrops on his bases in northern Thailand/southern Burma. Ah well, c'est la guerre. For those wondering: Yes, there's supply spoilage. I'm not bothered as I am delivering an additional 90,000 tons of supplies and will only have to tolerate the spoilage until such time as I can walk 40,000 men across the river and into coastal Burma. At that point spoilage should, largely, stop... it will reduce, in the meantime, as I expand the airfield's capacity, With 510 Engineer equivalents I can expect it to be a Level 5 airfield within the week - even in the face of bombing when I remove my fighters, which I'll do in a day or two. [image]local://upfiles/10809/DC0B7984A0FB4D42944A9173F07F0CD7.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Offerings to Khorne (5/29/2013 3:33:57 AM)
Nemo, your narrative shows first South Dakota taking mortal damage and later North Carolina. After each, you state that the BB was doomed or sank. Did you lose one BB or two? [&:] As for battle range and effectiveness, in 1941-42 while US torpedoes are junk, close range combat favours the Japanese and their Long Lances. Further out, say 8,000 yards, the Japanese tend to miss much more often with those deadly LLs; seeing a shadow at night is one thing and estimating its direction or travel, speed and exact range is another. Neither side hits very effectively at these night ranges but at least the USN is spared the devastation of the torps in most cases. By 1943 the USN have gained the most important factor in night battles - experience, and coupled with radar fire control they will dominate most battles. British ships, especially cruisers and DDs, come with a good deal of experience and can hold their own in any fight on equal terms with the IJN, even in 1942. [&o] Having said all that, if attrition by close-in knife fight is your goal, you are getting what you wanted! [sm=duel.gif]

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