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Jack -> PBEM Winzip problems (1/5/2003 3:25:20 AM)

I am having problems with zipping my pbem game files. What happens is I zip it the way I usually do but when I go to mail them out it never gets sent. What I mean is the file is only about 99% sent and just sites there. Do I have to readjust my WinZip? I don’t know how to use this program very well.
Can somebody help me out on this? What I am doing know is just sending the turn unzipped which is a much bigger file.



Bing -> (1/5/2003 4:33:33 AM)

Sounds to me like you are making corrupted winZip files. First, check all settings and options, reconfigure if necessary. If nothing wrong there, uninstall current WinZip and reinstall - you have the latest version, of course.

I think WinZip will do a clean uninstall, but it might be necessary to go in and scrub the registry. If a standard uninstall / reinstall doesn't fix the problem, find a friend who knows how to clean the reg after an uninstall. YOu might be surprised how much junk most apps leave behind - I haven't found one yet that truly removed ALL references.

Bing



Jack -> (1/5/2003 4:47:34 AM)

Thanks Bing
I will try to delete then re-install.



mlomax -> ITS WORKING GREAT (1/5/2003 7:12:06 AM)

The file you set me is working great and is on its way back to you.
:) :)



Jack -> (1/5/2003 7:47:41 AM)

I think I ask the wrong question. I did reinstall Winzip. It is doing it again. It is saying " Your SMTP server has not respond in 60 seconds. Would you like to wait another 60 seconds?"
That's what is coming up. How come I can't send email but I can submit this post?
mlomax your going to have to wait for your turn until I can get this sorted out.



mlomax -> (1/5/2003 7:54:07 AM)

What program are you using for your email? Also it could be the size of the file.



Jack -> (1/5/2003 8:04:02 AM)

I am using Outlook Express #5. I am also using Windows 95. My Outlook Express was upgrade. I don't know what the problem is.



john g -> (1/5/2003 9:16:43 AM)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jack
[B]I think I ask the wrong question. I did reinstall Winzip. It is doing it again. It is saying " Your SMTP server has not respond in 60 seconds. Would you like to wait another 60 seconds?"
That's what is coming up. How come I can't send email but I can submit this post?
mlomax your going to have to wait for your turn until I can get this sorted out. [/B][/QUOTE]

Your smtp server has nothing to do with winzip (though I recommend people use winrar instead).

The forum software here has nothing to do with your email server.

Messages here are entered directly onto Matrix's server, with email you enter on your hard drive then send it to your Isp's server which then forwards it to the isp of the recipient who then downloads it to his hard drive.

If your email server isn't responding it could mean that they are doing maintenace on the server, it is down due to malfunction, it is overloaded and dropping packets or some other failure.

Just try again in 5-10 min and you might get thru, here I average maybe 3-4 times a month that my email server is unavailable. Though it is more random than my newsserver which I know goes down every Sat morn at 5am local as well as a random day the first week of each month.

If you have a piece of software like mailwasher monitoring your email mailbox (I have it check mine every 3 min) you can spot when it hangs trying to get an update and then know when your email is down.
thanks, John.



Jack -> (1/5/2003 9:23:45 AM)

john g
So it is just a server problem. I was able to send it out eventually. How does it work? What I mean is is the email internet different from the internet I use to access this site for example?
Thanks john g



tracer -> (1/5/2003 10:05:46 AM)

Jack,
Your provider is probably just having trouble with its e-mail server. Usually when my provider has temporary problems it affects their mail system.

I'll get my turn sent [I]soon[/I] !



Supervisor -> Time out server setting change (1/5/2003 10:07:15 AM)

I don't think Outlook Express has changed that much over the years so I'm basing this on my current version of 6. Time out server setting change, Jack open outlook express, select tools, accounts, click on properties, then the advanced tab, here you can adjust how long the server will wait before it times out via a slider bar, you can adjust it as low a 30 seconds an as high as 5 minutes, after adjusting don't forget to hit apply. Good luck



Jack -> (1/5/2003 10:12:26 AM)

Thanks again everybody.



Irinami -> (1/5/2003 10:49:34 AM)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jack
[B]john g
So it is just a server problem. I was able to send it out eventually. How does it work? What I mean is is the email internet different from the internet I use to access this site for example?
Thanks john g [/B][/QUOTE]

Short answer: Yes, Long Answer: No, but...

Ever wonder why you had the old 'http://' thingy on some sites, and 'ftp://' on others? Ever wonder what 'POP3' and 'SMTP' were for?

They're all Protocols, or ways to communicate. Think of them as channels on a TV, and think of the Internet as a TV. (Note: This analogy is rather poor, but it does illustrate the problem at hand.)

When you go to a website, you turn your "TV" (the Internet) to "Channel 1" (http://[/url]) and type in the site's addy. When you go to an FTP site (usually for a download), you've changed your "TV" (the 'net) to "Channel 2" ([url]http://). When you get your e-mail, you tune your TV (net) to Channel 34 (POP3), and when you send it you tune your TV (net) to Channel 35 (SMTP).

Channel 1 and 2 are very similar. If a server's HTTP is down, it's FTP is probably down too. (Think like BBC-1 and BBC-2. If you get this, you're British or rent too many Monty Python videos. ;P) They're like VHF. (If you get this, you're over 20. ;P) POP3 and SMTP are also very similar--if one is having problems, the other often is too. (Thus the UHF-level channels I gave to them.) Though with POP3, you often won't notice it--you're usually downlaoding a number of messages, and if it has to retry one you won't notice prolly. With sending, though, you probably will notice--you're only sending one message, and you care deeply about that one.

They're all part of the Internet. If you made your own protocol called JSP2 (Jack's Steel Panthers' Protocol) to send files to your buddies, that would be part of the same internet as HTTP, FTP, TELNET, SMTP, POP3, DNS, and a host of other acronyms. However, each protocol requirs (usually) a server program, and has it's own idiosynchrasies. Sometimes your e-mail will be fine but you can't surf the web. That's because (probably) the DNS (Domain Name Server--basically what lets you surf easily) is down.

Confused? ;)



Supervisor -> (1/5/2003 11:00:33 AM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I am now when I wasn't before. You must be a relative of Yogi Bera (the king of double talk). "This is like deja vu all over again."



Jack -> (1/5/2003 11:01:28 AM)

Irinami

Not totally confused but the analogy of how it works is excellent. I see said the blind man. Thank you very much for taking the time to explain it to me. My knowledge of how the web and email works is very limited. You have just helped me expand that knowledge.



Bing -> (1/5/2003 12:41:37 PM)

1) Make sure your e-mail settings and connection settings are correct.
Consult your provider if necessary; they usually have techies to help.

2) Check with your provider, ask if they are having problems with their e-mail server.

3) You should do these things first, before shooting the messenger. WinZip hardly ever corrupts itself, I've used it since before the Net began and never had a problem. (The old CompuServe forums, pre-ISP existence.) There is always the chance the user has screwed it up, but that is very difficult to accomplish.

Don't fe
ell bad. I have super-fast cable ISP; all I have to do is take more than 30 seconds to write a reply to an e-mail message, next time I go to retrieve mail the pop hangs. All I have to do is type amessage like this one, which has nothing to do with e-mail - and the pop hangs. If a website page hangs and I terminate it, the pop hangs. I reboot, e-mail works fine.

Yes, I know it shouldn't do that. It does it anyway, compliments of USB is my guess. WHo thought up that pile of crap anyway,l the USB thing?

Bing



tracer -> (1/6/2003 11:31:31 AM)

B,
I've been looking for a good pop-up blocker to stop the same problems on my system, but all the free ones I've seen offered are spyware/adware. You may want to check out this program:
[URL=http://download.com.com/3000-2094-10045910.html?legacy=cnet]http://download.com.com/3000-2094-10045910.html?legacy=cnet[/URL]

I recommended it to Jack and it cleared up alot of sneaky, hidden files that had built up on his computer. Its free and works as advertised.



Bing -> (1/7/2003 1:33:21 AM)

Popup blockers all work the same so far as I know. They will block popups and that includes password entry dialogue boxes. If there is an "exclude" or "ignore" list a popup killer might be useful, even then the user will have to remember to manually enter the exceptions he wants. They have all been more trouble than they are worth.

So far as hidden files are concerned, that's what anti-viral and spyware progarms are for and that is a different subject. If you have a combo app that does everything, fine - how do you update it for everything you want it to detect?

Ad-Aware and Spybot reference databases need updating regularly and AKAIK find everything.

I always hear "This program finds files the others don't", but I've yet to find spyware that the above two programs can't detect. In fact, I heard that about Spybot. Guess what? Ad-Aware find potential spyware that Spybot doesn't - and vice versa.

If you're happy with a program, use it. Lots of people like to claim THEIR software does things the other guy's doesn't. Sometimes they are actually right.

Bing



tracer -> (1/7/2003 9:51:18 AM)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bing
[B]
Ad-Aware and Spybot reference databases need updating regularly and AKAIK find everything.

I always hear "This program finds files the others don't", but I've yet to find spyware that the above two programs can't detect. In fact, I heard that about Spybot. Guess what? Ad-Aware find potential spyware that Spybot doesn't - and vice versa.

If you're happy with a program, use it. Lots of people like to claim THEIR software does things the other guy's doesn't. Sometimes they are actually right.

Bing [/B][/QUOTE]

The link is for Ad-Aware...looks like I was a little late out of the blocks :D



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