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Iron Cross -> Superman capabilities of Soviet Guard units (2/17/2001 3:36:00 AM)

A question for all, Has anyone else fought against Soviet Guards infantry units and been absolutely slaughtered? I have now played two separate scenarios against these units in urban combat and have been amazed at their abilities to make Superman look like a wimp. Please don't get me wrong, I love the scenarios and I am extremely experienced in urban warfare on the Eastern Front. I just believe that a Guards infantry unit, although good, would not be able to have the following capabilities: - not be seen until any unit (including recon/scouts) is one hex away. - stand firm after 6 long range attacks, then endure 3 German engineer attacks with flamethrowers and satchel charges. - fire 11 times (thats right - 11!!!) in one turn, killing 25 Germans in one turn, although suffering 6 casualties to the previous attacks and then sit in the destroyed building in the fire and refuse to retreat. - resist until the last man, who fires two separate weapons and kills 3 more German engineers before dying. I believe in realism, as well as the occasional Hero of the Soviet Union, but the Guards units I have fought are the equivalent of heavily armed Bushido warriors. Just a rant from someone amazed that the entire Russian resistance in both scenarios were Christopher Reeves relatives!!!! Writing letters home for my fallen men, Iron Cross P.S. - My units have forgiven me, especially since our refitting period takes them back to Germany for a while.




Windo von Paene -> (2/17/2001 3:57:00 AM)

Well those bad boys ARE some of my favorite russian units no doubt. However I have not seen quite the indestructibility that you mention.




skukko -> (2/17/2001 4:25:00 AM)

As Axis tank kommander I know your consern, what year are you playing -43 to ? They are not supermens, they just got some lucky days afetr sitting in the house few days and only food has been vodka [img]http://www.matrixgames.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] Sometimes men at scenarios are edited to be more than average player can tolerate... mosh




Charles22 -> (2/17/2001 4:55:00 AM)

Iron Cross: Your men have forgiven you, but will the Fuhrer? Writing a letter to your family Charles22




B52g -> (2/17/2001 5:11:00 AM)

I have seen the 11 shots in one turn, it was in the opportunity fire for the AI. Those guards can be beaten, I had to beat my head on a wall for a while before I got the tactics right, though. I am vicious when I run into them, I will stop everything to hunt down a reteating guards unit and kill them before they can rally. I agree with Stukko, you give those guards some vodka and they are good for another 5 turns. [img]http://www.matrixgames.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]




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