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NorthStar -> Aircraft "Turning Back" (1/7/2003 9:34:38 AM)

I'm playing "The Begining Ends" as the US vs. Japanese AI. I started the game under 1.4, und upgraded all the way to 2.20.

I just completed a large scale CV vs. CV fight (ther was no carrier battle until early August, so both sides had pretty much every carrier they get). I noticed something that struck me as odd.

In a lot of combats, after a successful attack, the message "Elements of XXX Turning Back". No problem, the pilots were awfly tired and depressed by then, and didn't feel like getting shot at anymore. When I saw this message applied to bomber squadrons, the number of aircraft listed in the Combat Animation decreased immediately by some amount (anywhere from 2 to 9). Again fine, they turn back, they leave the fight.

However, I did see the message applied to fighters as well. But with fighters, there was no decrease in the number shown in the Animation, which implies that "turning back" does not cause fighters to actually disengage.

Has anyone seen this before, and know if this is intentional or not?




Nikademus -> (1/7/2003 1:01:29 PM)

I have noticed this phenomenum in my current campaign as well. For either side it seems, the escorting fighters, when attacked enough to generate a "elements of XX squadron breaking", do not actually suffer any reduction in #'s while bombers, and attacking fighters do when that msg is generated.

I've seen it dozens of times when the AI attacked from Rabaul in SC19 which gives them simply HUGE #'s of escorting fighters. The escorts stay and fight to the death regardless of breaking off msgs, but when the attacking CAP starts to exp the same msgs, you do see their #'s reduce

As Allied player i've turned around and seen the same thing when i'm the attacker. In plastering Lae i'm frequently driving off the CAP with 'breaking off msgs' but when the CAP hits my escorts? same thing as when the AI attacks, the breaking off msg appears, but no actual reduction happens.

Because of this fighter losses have been bloodier because the escorts simply dont quit even when their morale breaks




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