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fcharton -> RE: Relative Lack of Vietnam Era Games (7/3/2013 10:56:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wdolson
There were also political hamstringing that would be very difficult to model. This is probably one reason I can't think of any wargames of the Korean War.


There is one pretty good VG game about the whole conflict (named Korean War, unsurprisingly), and the Gamers had one in their OCS series too. I think Korea is relatively easy to model, as it is pretty much a conventional war. It is very asymetric, but this usually provides for good gaming situation.

Here's a lit of Vietnam war (including Indochina war) games
http://grognard.com/sub15.html

Francois




czert2 -> RE: Relative Lack of Vietnam Era Games (7/3/2013 11:26:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: spence

I would like to recommend an excellent book: "On Strategy: A Critical Analysis of the Vietnam War" by Col H.G. Summers Jr.

Chapter One begins:

"'You know you never defeated us on the battlefield' said the American colonel. The North Vietnamese colonel pondered that remark for a moment. 'That may be so', he replied, 'but it is also irrelevant.'
Conversation in Hanoi, April, 1975"

I think that explains all there is about how much enjoyment the American/South Vietnamese Player will have playing that game.

Well depend on how that game will be designed, it is gereraly know that US lost nam war in white house and not in field.




czert2 -> RE: Relative Lack of Vietnam Era Games (7/3/2013 11:40:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DHRedge

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ORIGINAL: spence


"'You know you never defeated us on the battlefield' said the American colonel. The North Vietnamese colonel pondered that remark for a moment. 'That may be so', he replied, 'but it is also irrelevant.'
Conversation in Hanoi, April, 1975"



Great quote,

and if someone tries to teach, and is ignored and thought irrelevant, if there teaching does not correct a problem.
Specifically the beer and travel money sent to me.
Then words must become actions, so that it is relevant to the person being spoken to in a way they understand.

The exact theme of the TV show Breaking Bad.
And the rational for manifestations into reality that create effects.

Also the larger topic of Right To Revolution, where when teaching, he did not have the money to live.
Therefore he has the right to move in directions outside of bounds of social contract, since social contract did not correctly address the problem.

Side note, in that story he had some other avenues, for instance someone he once helped long ago, that made millions off of his ideas, (in that Show so there is some writer disagreement with muse)offered him cash to correct the problem, and he could have taken that route, his pride stopped him.

So I have been posting to make it known that my pride is not an issue, and a suitcase of cash can be sent to me to correct the problem, by the various groups that have been reading my posts in various places for years. Not allowing for those that gained in the past to correct the problem is an error in that TV Show, and an error I avoided, however I can still throw the bag of ice on the floor. My friend was treated wrongly, now money must be sent to me.

Or if you want to see Zero as Da Vinci would write it, you can see that RE is in Oz O RE Z

Simple Minds - Alive and Kicking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIQo1OHkTI

Well, that NV colonel was totaly right, for what is for you that you win batles, but ultimately lose war ?




Bo Rearguard -> RE: Relative Lack of Vietnam Era Games (7/3/2013 11:55:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Shellshock


There was one stand alone Korean War title for a PC game I recall. Conflict Korea by Norm Koger which came out in 1992. But even it only covered the the first "fluid" year of the war. The three years of static warfare while peace negations dragged on didn't get simulated. It also had a hypothetical 1995 scenario included. 1995...our old future.

Needless to say, by modern standards it looks pretty out of date with the VGA graphics and all.

[img]http://pyxis.homestead.com/Conflict-Korea.jpg[/img]



That was the first computer game I ever bought for my old Gateway 486. [:D]




berto -> RE: Relative Lack of Vietnam Era Games (7/3/2013 12:21:12 PM)


Vietnam Combat Operations

War gaming excellence! Reason enough to own TOAW for just those scenarios.




berto -> RE: Relative Lack of Vietnam Era Games (7/3/2013 12:42:06 PM)


As others have mentioned: Squad Battles: Dien Bien Phu, Tour of Duty, and Vietnam

Also, Modern Wars: Vietnam War, a new game in the Campaign Series, due for release probably next year.




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