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Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (9/26/2013 9:02:18 AM)
#12 - Saturday 28th August 1943 No action this day due to foul weather. Moved around some low level FlaK to protect airfields, nothing else done.

npsergio -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (9/26/2013 11:54:48 PM)
Hi Turner, I like the mod that you use in the aces list window. Can you share it? or post a link to the file? regards-

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (9/28/2013 11:39:26 AM)
#13 - Sunday 29th August 1943 Action Phase: [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9ba0/k6bg3eoeudg324v6g.jpg[/image] Something tells me that this package of raids is a completely different animal from what I've seen so far. It does look somewhat intimidating, and I'm fairly sure they are headed for my engine factories, a/c assembly plants, component factories, or a mix of aircraft industry. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1d43/0hqqo48sx1st0s76g.jpg[/image] The first interception orders are sent out and the experienced jagdfliegern of JG53 are all in! --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6c2c/vt2vh79cc9b21pb6g.jpg[/image] Some 849 interceptors are ordered into action. That is barely half the number of a/c that the 8th USAAF has in the air here. In this picture the first wave is engaged while the second wave has just scrambled. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6793/6i06mnlqck6l1bo6g.jpg[/image] The first wave seem reasonably successful in wearing down the fighter escort. A lot of Allied fighters returning to base (RTB) can be seen in this picture. The second wave of interceptors is made up of a good portion of zerstörers with rockets. --- Action Report I really have no idea what the Allies had planned for this turn, but think that it can be concluded that it did not give the results that were intended. If this was some sort of experiment or a deliberate attempt to strike at my airfields, or an attempt to wear down my Jagdgruppen in a mass fighter engagement... I have no idea. Three Primary Airfields were targeted by viermots, Lonner Tannen, Vechta and Bissel. None of these airfields sustained any notable damage. So I have to assume this was another attempt to engage my Jagdgruppen in a battle of attrition. Perhaps, in an attempt to reduce my # of ready a/c for the next day. Because the vast number of a/c available to the Allies make it possible. Maybe tomorrow there will be even bigger strikes and then, directed at targets that truly count. Either way... today my Jagdfliegern brought down a lot of Allied aluminum from the skies in what must be regarded a fairly impressive display of what can be done even against escorted raids. My strategy in protecting the German core industries is to have a depth in defense. Farther back the heavy fighters are based and up front in the first wave are the fighters set on engaging the Allied escort, to draw them away from their bombers so that the Zerstörer Gruppen can do their job with minimal interference from enemy fighters. Today, this proved a successful doctrine. I saw a lot of allied fighters tied up in fighter sweeps also, which should have reduced the # of escorts significantly. The night action was intense and I lost many interceptors to Beaufighters patrolling the airfields. The performance of my Nachtjagdgruppen outweighed these losses however, and overall I'm satisfied with the results. If this is how the Allies will continue to run night ops, let them. In southern Italy the frontline troops of 29. Pz-Grenadier and 26. Panzer had to endure a day of relentless and never-ending aerial attacks. Especially the 29th is very exposed as I have essentially ceded the airspace to the 15th USAAF, since it is practically undefendable. The resources simply aren't there and any attempt to defend southern Italy in force would only reduce the means at my disposal even further. My impression is that the Allies missed their target today, but the battle is far far from over. This has only just begun and if the Allies missed their target performance today they can come back stronger and better coordinated tomorrow, next week or next month even. Historically the Germans never could imagine what was ahead of them in terms of what capacity the Allied air power would be built up to, it was just assumed by high command that it was not that big of a deal. Until they were proven wrong, at which point it was much too late. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 9 Bf109: 34 FW190: 20 Co-Axis: 1 NJ: 27 Total: 91 in 2381 sorties & 31 pilots dead, 39 wounded. Allies Fighters: 56 Bombers: 63 Recon: 0 Night B/F: 68 Total: 187 in 2622 sorties & 101 pilots dead, 76 missing, 20 wounded. Industry: # manufactured / # ordered - of daily production FW190D-9: 17/54 FW190A-6: 22/61 Bf109G-5/AS: 0/9 Me410A: 9/9 He219A-2: 2/9 II./JG 51 at Butzweilerhof is today refitting to the FW190A-6, despite there only being 2 available. The gruppen refit in order of experience, so the units that have accumulated the most experience in the 109 get to fly the 190 sooner and become that much more effective in them. The less experienced 109 units are not so lucky. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a8c5/72s5aj8x292c37o6g.jpg[/image] The Jagdwaffe took a significant toll on the B17 groups this day with no less than 57 airframes lost. Below I'll show the practical difference between the performance so far of the Bf109G-6 Gruppen vs those equipped with the FW190A-5 and A-6, and why I choose to manufacture the FW190 type instead of the Bf109. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a6a2/sck11h3cfmyudc06g.jpg[/image] Above are the Bf109G-6 Gruppen listed after kills awarded to active pilots. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/35e7/wgpkena81e8u3gi6g.jpg[/image] The FW190A-6 Gruppen show a notable difference in kills awarded as well as morale. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/43f6/a53l77ibjrtgmc56g.jpg[/image] Even the Gruppen equipped with the FW190A-5 show better results than those flying the Bf109G-6. ---

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (9/28/2013 8:31:55 PM)
#14 - Monday 30th August 1943 Action Report Today the only action by the enemy was attacks on 29. Panzer-Grenadier Division. The attacks were successful in that the unit's combat value was degraded so much that it triggered invasion of Italy. The bulk of Regia Aeronautica dispersed to Allied air bases to surrender, even Italy surrendered. So... almost all of the movement points this turn were used up to redeploy units to Italy. JG 27 is back in theater, and some co-axis units from the Balkans have been redeployed to the area. All-in-all, only 8 fighters were lost by the Allies in the raids, and no axis interceptors. No other activity whatsoever, as the picture below shows. Industry: # manufactured / # ordered FW190D-9: 17/54 FW190A-6: 25/61 Bf109G-5/AS: 0/9 Me410A: 9/9 He219A-2: 2/9 [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ceb6/0h1brgyx7a0hx7b6g.jpg[/image] Allied raids. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8fd9/3a2ba0w300zgg156g.jpg[/image] Italy invaded! ---

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (9/29/2013 10:26:36 PM)
#15 - Tuesday 31st August 1943 Action Report Better weather allowed the 8th to resume ops, mainly in the form of fighter sweeps and a few airfields were strafed resulting in some lost airframes on the ground. One such fighter-bomber raid took out the Junkers Strassbourg Flugmotoren Werke which had 3 production lines, up til now. I lost 3 of the precious Jumo 213A production lines that are now dispersed to return online in about a month. Several airfields were also targeted by level bombers and sustained damage to service facilities. A huge group of B17s penetrated as deep as Bordeaux, to hit the numerous aircraft industries there. However weather interfered and only one of the bomber raids dropped on their intended target Bacalan which sustained only 17% damage so the two FW190D assembly lines there remain. Yes, the French factory workers are pretty skilled. In the south the Allies focused on bombing frontline troops, and they really dished it out. Still redeploying assets to the area and it will be at least one more day until the 15th will see much opposition in Italian airspace. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 3 Bf109: 13 FW190: 9 Co-Axis: 1 NJ: 39 Total: 65 in 1826 sorties & 22 pilots dead, 29 wounded. Allies Fighters: 36 Bombers: 19 Recon: 6 Night B/F: 12 Total: 73 in 2353 sorties & 27 pilots dead, 35 missing, 10 wounded. Industry Despite the many raids on various aircraft industries, daily deliveries remain unaffected. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9ca9/0ckvzfix2g9e9fh6g.jpg[/image] Fighter sweeps all through the morning. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/97bf/1sv480855isqc8y6g.jpg[/image] Here the B17s have turned for home, only one formation dropped on their intended target. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a16a/vjjy398ccmv8ybo6g.jpg[/image] Night raids were very well planned and coordinated, as is evident in the loss figures numerous CAPs were set up over many airfields. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/487b/ppd2knxdcy4vkwj6g.jpg[/image] The bomber raids of today and the damage inflicted. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9328/tfri87zx7c78lyk6g.jpg[/image] Losses ---

BigDuke66 -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/1/2013 6:04:31 AM)
I see you use the Map mod from Nicholas Bell, is it 2.1? Did you also tried is 2.1c that has the different countries colored? Or the version with rail lines?

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/1/2013 9:13:11 AM)
No I do not have the maps you mentioned. Do you have any dl links, would love to try them out?

BigDuke66 -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/1/2013 5:28:38 PM)
All here on the forum: This is 2.1, I think you already use it: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=2262466 And here is 2.1C the colored version: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=2342535 Check for screenshots here: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2262466 PS Found the Road/Rail version but the designer says its a-historical: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3035591

BigDuke66 -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/1/2013 9:09:57 PM)
Maybe you want to try a overall gray map: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3205913

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/2/2013 8:27:09 PM)
#16 - Wednesday 1st September 1943 Action Report Three fighter sweeps over France targeting a troop and a/c industry in Paris. In southern Italy this day there was a parade of Allied air power on display from early morning until about 2 pm. The raids targeted frontline troops and were quite successful. As soon as one raid left the area another was coming in so the troops were hit practically non-stop throughout the day and the Axis men and machines eventually exhausted. Devastating to the frontline units. The enemy suffered during their attacks from FlaK as well as interceptors. No night action on this day. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 0 Bf109: 7 FW190: 0 Co-Axis: 15 NJ: 0 Total: 22 in 395 sorties & 5 pilots dead, 9 wounded. Allies Fighters: 22 Bombers: 17 Recon: 0 Night B/F: 0 Total: 39 in 1331 sorties & 16 pilots dead, 18 missing, 6 wounded. Jagdgruppen Four gruppen were listed to refit to the FW190A-6 even though there are only 23 available this day the following units will be equipped to full strength within days. II./JG 3 - Venlo AF II./JG 53 - Gütersloh AF II./JG 11 - Jever AF III./JG 11 - Oldenburg AF FlaK Frontline troops in Italy were reinforced. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/5c45/3yk6jiaqpam44mq6g.jpg[/image]

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/4/2013 8:06:57 PM)
Day #17 - Thursday 2nd September 1943 Action Report A couple of bomber raids accompanied by a gaggle of escorting fighters attacked airfields in France. Numerous fighter sweeps as well. On the Italian front there was the regular parade although less intense probably because of interfering weather conditions. The frontline troops are strained from the relentless aerial attacks. No night raids this day. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 0 Bf109: 5 FW190: 1 Co-Axis: 2 NJ: 0 Total: 8 in 309 sorties & 5 pilots dead, 3 wounded. Allies Fighters: 57 Bombers: 2 Recon: 0 Night B/F: 0 Total: 59 in 1591 sorties & 31 pilots dead, 25 missing, 6 wounded. FlaK Frontline troops in Italy were reinforced. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ddeb/lngf8f4badx104a6g.jpg[/image] A view of the situation on the southern front. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/c210/ciyil341oc6m7mh6g.jpg[/image] Some of the stats I'm tracking using Excel, the above is a composite image from different sections of the spreadsheet. ---

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/6/2013 7:33:56 PM)
Day #18 - Friday 3rd September 1943 Action Report Challenging weather today and the Allies resorted to fighter sweeps over the low countries. In southern Italy the raids bunched up in packages to hit windows in between the clouds. Only 8 interceptors lost while the Allies lost 13 of their fighters. Only two more days and FW190A-6 production will be up to 41 per day. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f2b5/c7c5kimlktufv1r6g.jpg[/image] Challenging weather in the West. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/eeed/870rzrd3fk54tip6g.jpg[/image] Challenging weather in the South. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/41b3/py7u2ebld2yuluv6g.jpg[/image] Still the allies managed to send raids against the troops in Italy, finding a gap in the clouds. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e93f/cpab7b5d6yajor56g.jpg[/image] Scoreboard ---

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/9/2013 11:02:38 PM)
Day #19 - Saturday 4th September 1943 Action Phase [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1f3d/1fnb7gneeq0fp766g.jpg[/image] Never before seen a radio activity of 1300!!! It actually peaked well above. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1768/eem4im6d97lzhps6g.jpg[/image] This is going to get ugly. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/5727/0z8lrwdhiety8hk6g.jpg[/image] First wave is engaged, some of the fighter bomber raids to the south have actually been forced to turn back! --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/c4c0/bj787pf2543qq2d6g.jpg[/image] Second wave is crashing headlong into the massive bomber formation of several hundred viermots. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1bfc/sqo1g5sk942717a6g.jpg[/image] The damage has been dealt. Engine factories! Allied fighter sweeps in Italy wiped out 20 or-so a/c on the ground. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9439/d0vn35c71ez7v1x6g.jpg[/image] Now to try and maximize damage to the returning bombers, many if not most are now damaged. --- Action Report This day radio activity peaked above 1300 with a massive effort by the Allies over Germany. Day bombers hit engine factories around Kassel primarily, but other areas were hit as well some even bombed at night. What is troublesome is that this is what the Allies have the capacity to do, despite my best efforts. On the positive side, I doubt the allies are happy with the damage dealt and the Jagdwaffe pilots managed to give a good serving in return downing no less than 95 Allied bombers. A considerable number that will be felt and affect morale for weeks. My losses will be regained within days but production rates at the damaged sites will be affected for weeks as well. The outcome of today I have to assess as close to a draw, the uncertainty factor is too great. We will not know for some time to come if today's effort was good enough. The many NJ losses were because of the abundant night fighter patrols over German airfields. These patrols very effectively take out NJ-fighters in the landing pattern since the routine seems to be to light up the nav lights and landing lights when landing. At which point the Beaufighters can sweep in and take them out with ease, few of the pilots who fall victim to this tactic survive. Some 20 fighters were lost on the ground in strafing attacks on Frosinone AF where two Gruppen of JG27 + Stab were located. After this attack they were relocated to Paderborn as continued efforts against the engine factories are bound to take place. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 9 Bf109: 49 FW190: 29 Co-Axis: 20 NJ: 59 Total: 166 in 3060 sorties & 47 pilots dead, 67 wounded. Allies Fighters: 65 Bombers: 95 Recon: 0 Night B/F: 27 Total: 187 in 3748 sorties & 90 pilots dead, 86 missing, 16 wounded. FlaK Frontline troops in Italy were reinforced.

BigDuke66 -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/10/2013 5:54:24 PM)
NJ: 59, these looses look very high, where does that come from?

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/10/2013 6:34:37 PM)
Beaufighter patrols over NJ airfields primarily. My opponent plan these meticulously which is very time consuming. Few have the patience to bother, but this guy is very much into the details. I'll edit and clarify in the post.

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/18/2013 3:33:44 PM)
Day #20 - Sunday 5th September 1943 Action Phase [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4efb/hwqnad1ctxh3cih6g.jpg[/image] After a morning full of fighter sweeps, and severely understrength Gruppen after the day before, this won't be a great afternoon. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/665f/9u8d5iorids3bi16g.jpg[/image] Stuttgart engine factories hit, day and night fighters are called into action. --- Action Report All morning was fighter sweep time and one raid took out ~20 FW190s of JG26 on the ground. It was my mistake, having overlooked the fact that most of JG26 was deployed on the same Airfield (Hody) without low level AA. Most allied bomber raids on Stuttgart hit the jet factories there that are not yet operational. I believe this is a bug which in effect destroyed part of my opponent's planning. Not particularly great for any of us to have broken features. In Italy there were raids on troops. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 9 Bf109: 16 FW190: 25 Co-Axis: 10 NJ: 29 Total: 89 in 1024 sorties & 27 pilots dead, 24 wounded. Allies Fighters: 48 Bombers: 23 Recon: 0 Night B/F: 0 Total: 71 in 1804 sorties & 40 pilots dead, 29 missing, 4 wounded. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/93e4/kfb7dcyh8jdjmd66g.jpg[/image] Losses so far this campaign. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f0a4/bahxzc8hml4x7zr6g.jpg[/image] The raids over Germany. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/061c/i68z2vvzpkobzpf6g.jpg[/image] The scoreboard. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cdd9/04ej3o2a7h0io2l6g.jpg[/image] Campaign score so far.

BigDuke66 -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/18/2013 5:49:26 PM)
Did you modify the map? The font of the bigger names looks great, would you mind sharing it?

cohimbra -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/18/2013 6:12:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BigDuke66 Did you modify the map? The font of the bigger names locks great, would you mind sharing it? Hey, the Feldgrau Map (by Turner) is here: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3425699&mpage=1&key=� in the post#1

BigDuke66 -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/18/2013 6:49:10 PM)
Thanks!

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/23/2013 5:48:04 PM)
Day #21 - Monday 6th September 1943 Action Report Today the enemy targeted two major engine factories, BMW Barsdorf and BMW Spandau. Both assemble the BMW 801D radial for the FW190A. Spandau took 100% damage and is out for a long time, Barsdorf took 60% damage and will repair sooner but for some time ahead I've lost 15 engines per day in production. It is a good thing I have 153 of them in stock, they will be sorely needed. Daily production of BMW 801D radials is down to 18 per day, which is quite far from what is needed in order to equip the bulk of the Jagdwaffe with the 190A type swiftly. It will be done, despite the delays. What is equally bad is the fact that some of the Jumo 213A factories have also been bombed out, further delaying the 190D type. We shall see how the situation develops, I still have a daily production rate of 43 FW190A-6 so long as the stock of engines last, which will be crucial in rebuilding the Jagdwaffe into a potent fighting force. Right now the situation is very bad as I had single digit numbers of ready a/c per gruppe this day, and the situation is deteriorating further due to the attrition from daily attacks. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 0 Bf109: 5 FW190: 0 Co-Axis: 9 NJ: 19 Total: 33 in 814 sorties & 11 pilots dead, 8 wounded. Allies Fighters: 2 Bombers: 30 Recon: 0 Night B/F: 15 Total: 47 in 1175 sorties & 25 pilots dead, 15 missing, 12 wounded. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/1741/cfzi9v47v7k4x0d6g.jpg[/image] The raids of today. ---

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/23/2013 10:58:51 PM)
Day #22 - Tuesday 7th September 1943 Action Report [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/900f/29inamaawbp7d4h6g.jpg[/image] British Bomber Command was active tonight, otherwise not very much activity. Losses Axis Zerstörer: 0 Bf109: 0 FW190: 1 Co-Axis: 3 NJ: 23 Total: 27 in 729 sorties & 14 pilots dead, 9 wounded. Allies Fighters: 8 Bombers: 4 Recon: 1 Night B/F: 10 Total: 23 in 993 sorties & 10 pilots dead, 8 missing, 5 wounded. This turn 429 FW190A-6 were in the field, of which over 300 have been built over the course of the past 22 days. The gruppen alotted the type are all fully equipped now so next turn it should pool meaning more gruppen can make the switch from Bf109 to FW190. Currently building at a rate of 43 per day but the stockpile of engines is declining quite rapidly since only 8 BMW801Ds are built per day. Did some changes to industry reassigning 2 of the Me410 lines to FW190A-6 and FW190D-9 production each. Given the situation any 2-engined day fighter production seems like a waste of resources and perhaps even Messerschmitt will have to swallow their pride and build Focke-Wulf designs. We'll see about that next turn, after all the Me410 is useful because of its long range.

Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (10/30/2013 4:05:12 PM)
Day #23 - Wednesday 8th September 1943 Action Phase [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/c2da/e90u3rcaccfruqr6g.jpg[/image] The Allies playing the strong hand by numbers. Not much I can do about this there is no chance to reduce the effectiveness of these bomber raids. 884 intercepts called, late as forced by low ready numbers and strained resources. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6332/9464ogd8cr278lp6g.jpg[/image] Stormclouds gathering. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/7026/a0xitm9cv4fchmi6g.jpg[/image] Forces clash. Here the weather is also showing. --- [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/508d/enprqa1dcpy6xyn6g.jpg[/image] Fighting a losing battle. Kassel area was hit again and all engine factories there are now out of action. It was at about this point I realized the last raid egressing was actually headed the wrong way (return to target bug) and I called off further intercepts on that raid. --- Losses Axis Zerstörer: 1 Bf109: 38 FW190: 36 Co-Axis: 0 NJ: 4 Total: 79 in 1481 sorties & 22 pilots dead, 41 wounded. Allies Fighters: 34 Bombers: 81 Recon: 1 Night B/F: 0 Total: 116 in 1514 sorties & 61 pilots dead, 52 missing, 4 wounded. [image]http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/df03/40l9cxr3w1rvt4h6g.jpg[/image] Raids this turn, do you see the pattern? This is the strategy that truly strangle the Axis player. Industry a/c type - active production/total ordered (engines delivered/total ordered) FW190D-9 - 35/61(8/79) FW190A-6 - 45/61(8/57) Bf109G-5/AS - 0/6(0/5) Me410A - 4/4(19/27) He219A-2 - 4/9(19/27) Me410 and He219 share same engine type. As you can see I'm all in industry wise for D-9 and A-6 production, not much compromise there. However due to the Allies effective day bombings of engine facilities delivery numbers remain alarmingly low. I am hoping for a break in weather, or low bomber crew morale forcing a break. The expected bad weather of November is still many weeks away. By necessity a few gruppen redeployed from Italy to protect engine factories in Germany. For the first time losses were recorded on the B17G type, 19 downed. 62 B17F airframes went down as well. These losses are too low to have any lasting impact on the 8th and Luftwaffe losses were today high. Given the current situation it would seem the Allies are winning the war of attrition. It all depends on how many new fighter aircraft the Axis industry can deliver.

cohimbra -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (11/1/2013 10:41:54 AM)
When a *FAC took 100% damage vs AI, it close and reopen in another place (40 days x 1 slot, if I remember well); it happens the same in a pbem game?

cohimbra -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (11/1/2013 10:42:12 AM)
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Turner -> RE: '43 Grand Campaign AAR - Luftwaffe (11/1/2013 11:19:29 AM)
Yes same rules apply.

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