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blh42 -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/26/2014 8:48:34 AM)
Request for the Swedish P 04, which is similar to the existing M 03 ship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Carlskrona blh

Barny23 -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/26/2014 1:01:06 PM)
Polish ships #1767 and #2414 Mount and magazines (Standard And Harpoon) are missing http://navy.mw.mil.pl/index.php?akcja=oliver Barny

mx1 -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/26/2014 1:20:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Barny Polish ships #1767 and #2414 Mount and magazines (Standard And Harpoon) are missing Barny Well, Poland only had 2 (two) Harpoon missiles (according to other sources 4 units) and they were decommissioned last year. So even though there are mounts for them there were no missiles to load. Total number of Standard missiles bought by Poland was 17 (18 according to other sources) - so they are really scarce resource. Most probably the Mk13 launchers are not operational because of age. Source (in Polish): dziennikzbrojny.pl/aktualnosci/news,4,3085,z-zycia-wojska,fregata-do-kasacji-harpoony-takze dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,2,4,455,armie-swiata,wojsko-polskie,modernizacja-polskich-fregat-perry Not to mention that there are only 1000 rounds for Phalanx in the whole fleet.

Af1352pasha -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/26/2014 4:06:07 PM)
Matka-class missile boat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matka_class_missile_boat There are two type: 1-RKA Pr.206MR Matka with P-15 termit. 2-RKA Pr.206.6 Matka mod with SS-N-25. [image]local://upfiles/36167/7D77D9A1318747E5A2BEB2D0256CAEA4.gif[/image]

ComDev -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/26/2014 6:56:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JCR Yak-141 Freestyle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak-141 I don't know what the DB policy on "what if" planes is but the Yak-141 was basically stopped by the dissolution of the USSR, not by technical problems, and would be a very fascinating what if. Have added the Yak-141 [8D] Yak-141 Freestyle -- Russia [1992-] (Navy), 1995, Yak-41

ComDev -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/26/2014 7:37:46 PM)
Also added these: HC-130J Combat King II -- United States (Air Force), 2013, Combat Rescue HC-130J Hercules -- United States (Coast Guard), 2004 HC-144A Ocean Sentry [CN-235-300MPA Persuader] -- United States (Coast Guard), 2009, 16x

ultradave -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/26/2014 9:41:18 PM)
I noticed the SEAWOLF class submarine is listed with 2x nuclear reactors. This is incorrect. There is only 1. Minor fix as it doesn't affect any of the values, unless of course one of them could be knocked out due to damage leaving one operating. Same goes for SSN-23 Jimmy Carter and for the UK Astute. One reactor.

Blu3wolf -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/27/2014 6:17:50 PM)
RAAF - All dates are for RAAF operations. F/A-18B Hornet - not in DB at all, could be added to several countries, 1985-current King Air 350 - Is not in DB at all, could be added to Civilian and Commercial, 2009-current Pilatus PC-9A - Is not in DB at all, could be added to several other countries, 1987-current CT/4 Airtrainer - Is not in DB at all, 1973-current Challenger CL-604 - Is not in DB at all, could be added to Commercial also, 2002-2014 737 BBJ - Is not in DB but several other 737 variants are. Is actually a 737-700. Closest in DB is 737-700ER, 2002-2014 AN/TPS-77 - I note that the AN/TPS-70 is incorrectly listed under the Australian Air Force in the DB3K, it is actually the AN/TPS-77 which is operated by 3CRU and 114MCRU, 2005-current De Havilland DHC-4 Caribou - Is not in the DB at all, 1963-2009 C-130H - This is in the DB, just not for Australia, 1978-2012 C-130E - Also not in Australia in the DB, 1966-2000 C-130A - Also not in Australia in the DB, 1958-1978 C-17 - This is actually in the DB and in Australias category, too. I just wanted to note that IOC was reached in september 2007 rather than in 08. Boeing 707 - VIP transport and tanker variants operated by 33SQN, 1981-2008 Id like to note that the Aussie Hornets in the DB currently require AIM-120-C5s in their loadouts. Id like to point out that we acquired AIM-120-C7s in 2011, and AIM-120Bs in 1998, but am aware of no sales of AMRAAMs in the intervening years. Id like to suggest a solution to loadouts which allows individual weapons to be set, on a per hardpoint and possibly per launcher basis, rather than a per loadout basis. Id like to cite the PACAF approved SCLs as one such reason, given the extreme number of different loadouts. RAN Ive noted quite a few pennants missing in the Aussie DB too, so Ill list some of them here for you. 73 Collins - SSG 73 Collins [Collins Class] 75 Waller - SSG 75 Waller [Collins Class] 01 Adelaide [Perry] - FFG 01 Adelaide [Perry Class] 150 Anzac - FFH 150 Anzac [Anzac Class] Id like to request the addition of O 266 Sirius, a replenishment ship. I should also note that the Paluma Class vessels of the Royal Australian Navy are conspicuously absent, along with their Leeuwin Class cousins. Singapore PC-21 My appreciation is extended in anticipation of these eventual updates.

Blu3wolf -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/27/2014 6:41:18 PM)
... to be deleted (not sure how to)...

mikmykWS -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/27/2014 6:45:04 PM)
Logged! We'll get riiiight on it [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

Mgellis -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/28/2014 3:11:59 AM)
[ADDED DB v440] SIAI-Marchetti SF.260 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aermacchi_SF.260 http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/siai.htm http://aircombat.com/about/our-aircraft/siai-marchetti-sf-260/ http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2000/July/1/SIAI-Marchetti-Aermacchi-SF-260.aspx (I'm not sure if I posted this one or not, but I searched and could not find it. Nearly 1,000 have been built and they've been used as light attack/COIN aircraft by about a dozen countries, including Nicaragua, Chad, and Uganda.)

Primarchx -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/28/2014 3:34:25 AM)
And there was great rejoicing! quote: ORIGINAL: emsoy Also added these: HC-130J Combat King II -- United States (Air Force), 2013, Combat Rescue HC-130J Hercules -- United States (Coast Guard), 2004 HC-144A Ocean Sentry [CN-235-300MPA Persuader] -- United States (Coast Guard), 2009, 16x

Primarchx -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/28/2014 3:36:09 AM)
BTW, I saw that the F-15SG with it's APG-63(v)3 doesn't have surface search capability, though it's supposedly an F-15E variant. Is that true?

Mgellis -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (1/28/2014 9:48:41 PM)
Low priority, but nice to have someday... Learjet 35 (Commercial) <-- just a generic version of the jet that might be used by neutrals, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learjet_35 (There are already two entries for the Learjet 35, so most of the data should be available; I was not sure if the Argentinian version had any differences (the Finnish one seems to have extra sensors you would not have on a purely commercial jet) Should there also be an entry for the C-21 Learjet? Embraer KC-390 <-- also low priority, but good to add eventually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_KC-390 Aero Commander 500 <-- also low priority, but widely used (looks like more than 1,000 have been built and it is employed by about a dozen air forces, including the US) so it might make sense to add it someday http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Commander_%28aircraft%29 Thanks for considering these.

Dimitris -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/29/2014 8:10:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf I dont expect this to be added. This is to the best of my knowledge, correct, but apparently accuracy is no reason for change. Uncalled for.

Blu3wolf -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/30/2014 12:15:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf quote: ORIGINAL: Sunburn quote: ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf I dont expect this to be added. This is to the best of my knowledge, correct, but apparently accuracy is no reason for change. Uncalled for. should I be proven wrong, Id be happy to make a full apology. I'd like to apologize to Myk and the whole WarfareSims team for what is at best undeserved slander. My statements were made in a poor frame of mind, and do not reflect my long term view of myk or the team. I hope that in the future we can put this sorry debacle behind us.

greatTop -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/30/2014 1:13:30 PM)
Hello guys, quick request for an upgrade of the existing Italian Tornado ECR(SEAD), first one was delivered in 2013 and called "ECR MLU"... They are now capable of using JDAMs and better Harms missiles (my guess is the "c" version) And maybe add the Su30 to the Algerian rooster since they bought 46 of those to the russians. Anyways thanks for your time http://www.aleniaaermacchi.it/en-US/Media/News/Pages/Alenia-Aermacchi-First-upgraded-Tornado-ECR-delivered-to-Italian-Air-Force-.aspx

Mgellis -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/30/2014 1:26:09 PM)
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Mgellis -> RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? (1/30/2014 1:28:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf quote: ORIGINAL: Sunburn quote: ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf I dont expect this to be added. This is to the best of my knowledge, correct, but apparently accuracy is no reason for change. Uncalled for. This after being informed by myk that any requests I make would not be added, on the grounds that I made them. In my view, the statement stands. I list these for completionism only - Ill be surprised to see these added. should I be proven wrong, Id be happy to make a full apology. Ill take this opportunity to let you know I have no problem with you sunburn, and that Im sorry that you were offended by that. I know were I in your position, Id certainly be offended. Before this escalates further, I'd like to recommend calm and patience. I understand it takes a fair amount of time and work to add things to the databases because of the amount of information that has to be tracked down sometimes. In addition, there are other issues like squashing bugs that also take up a lot of time and effort. I think the people working on the databases sometimes feel a bit overwhelmed and so I make a point of saying things like "thank you" and "I know this one will probably take a while" because I am grateful for the work they do and I do know it may take a while to add certain platforms. I mostly post things to get them in the queue for eventual inclusion--I'm hoping we'll someday have both databases where pretty much every platform for every country is available, even down to small patrol boats and aircraft used mostly as trainers but capable of being used for COIN in a pinch, but I know most of them won't show up for months or maybe even longer. But that's all right. I'm taking the long view because I think Command is the new Harpoon, and I think Command could have the same thirty-year run, so I figure I've got plenty of time.

Dimitris -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/1/2014 9:45:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JCR Yak-141 Freestyle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak-141 I don't know what the DB policy on "what if" planes is but the Yak-141 was basically stopped by the dissolution of the USSR, not by technical problems, and would be a very fascinating what if. Added in Build 487.

Vici Supreme -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/3/2014 9:30:25 PM)
Hey people! I've already sent this to the responsibles, but I think I'm putting it in the thread too, so people can see what already has been requested. So, I got my hands on the game for a while and now I felt like, finally, adding my personal requests to the thread. At this point, I got to say that I'm more focussed on technology around 2000-onwards and modern/future developments, worldwide. I also enjoy all the Cold War Era Stuff, but in my opinion this is already well represented with a lot of people working with. I think I'm going to give this a little opposite.[;)] I will post all of my current DB3000 Updates, splitted into blocks, over the weeks. Please take a moment and have a look of what I got so far. Ships: F201 Nicol�s Bravo (Bronstein-class frigate) - Imao Mexico is still poorly represented in the Database. It would be cool to see a bit more stuff of Mexico in the upcoming updates. [ADDED 1.07] Type 26 Global Combat Ship - To replace all remaining Type 23 frigates. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Combat_Ship Tide-class (MARS Tanker) - An important asset to me because it will turn the Norwegian Navy into a decent Green-Water-Navy, capable of operating far inside the Arctic Circle with longer endurance. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide-class_tanker bmt.org/projects/defence-royal-fleet-auxiliary-mars-tanker-design/ [ADDED DB v440] Svalbard-class (Coastguard OPV/Icebreaker) - Biggest and most state of the art vessel, serving in the Norwegian Coast Guard. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoCGV_Svalbard Arctic Offshore Patrol Ship - Canadian Offshore Patrol Vessel under development based on the Norwegian Svalbard-class OPV. Roughly estimated to be operational around 2019(?). casr.ca/bg-navy-aops-icebreaker.htm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Patrol_Ship_Project Project621 Gawron-class - Polish Multipurpose Frigate. All ships of the class were cancelled, but the finished hull of the first laid down ship (Slazak), received a contract to be converted into a heavy OPV with ASW capabilities. Would be the first new ship to be built for Poland's Navy after 20 years. Also the frigate-seized design offers the chance to add additional armament (like Surface Missile Launchers) later on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawron-class_corvette navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2013-news/december-2013-navy-naval-forces-maritime-industry-technology-security-global-news/1428-poland-finally-moving-forward-with-gawron-rook-class-corvette-project-projekt-621.html Protector-class OPV - In service with the Royal New Zealand Navy, also known under Otage-class Offshore Patrol Vessel. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Protector#IPV en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_class_offshore_patrol_vessel Protector-class IPV - Smaller Inshore Patrol Boat, also used by New Zealand. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector-class_inshore_patrol_vessel Holland-class OPV en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Dutch_Navy_OPV%27s Sigma 10514-class - Indonesian frigate variant of the 9113 Sigma corvette. First ship to be commissioned into service in 2017. Will become the leading frigate class of the TNI AL. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma-class_corvette navyrecognition.com/index.php/world-naval-forces/asian-navies-vessels-ships-equipment/indonesia/frigates-and-corvettes/778-sigma-10514-pkr-frigate-indonesia-indonesian-navy-tni-al-perusak-kawal-rudal-pt-pal-dsns-damen-schelde-naval-shipbuilding-kri-datasheet-pictures-photos-video-specifications.html Project22220 LK60-class Icebreaker - Altough alleged inital funding problems the first ship was laid down November 2013. Will be launched between 2015-2016 and turned over to the Russian Navy in 2017. Cool future addition to the already existing soviet/russian icebreackers in the DB. navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=552 voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_11_07/Russia-to-build-icebreakers-to-secure-its-Arctic-power-position-8762/ dgconcord.ru/en/22220 Bacolod City-class LSV - Philippine newest landing ship class. In my opinion, a relevant component of the PN as there are no up to date or even no LST class DB platforms for the Filipinos in Command. Generally, there are currently news every week due to the Modernization Act of the the whole Armed Forces branch. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRP_Bacolod_City_(LC-550) Strategic Sealift Vessel (Future Philippine SSV's) - As i've read so far, the SSV's are scheduled to be delivered in 2015 and 2016(Sea trails won't be performed at this time). The design will be based on the Indonesian Makasser-class LPD, but the ship itself will receive an indigenous look, though. maxdefense.blogspot.de/2013/08/finally-clearer-picture-on-philippine.html That's all. For the moment...[:D] I'm aware that not every of those requests may appear to be that much important to cover the wishes of a broad community. I can imagine that getting informations about armament, sensors, engines, etc. for future developments will turn out to be very difficult and time-consuming. You could use early computer concepts, showing installed platforms and proceed with the DB entry as more details are published (like you already do with the X-47B). It'll be really cool to see any (all of them even better[&o]) of those in future builds because they are, supposable, platforms I'm looking forward to use in planned scenarios. I really appreciate considering my preferences as i know you surely got other stuff to handle!!! Greetings

Mgellis -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/4/2014 2:42:06 AM)
A couple of additional ships for Algeria, when there is time to add them... MEKO A200 <-- not sure how different this is from the South African Valour-class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_National_Navy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEKO_200 Project 20382 "Tigr" <-- not sure how different this is from the other versions of the Steregushchy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_National_Navy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushchy-class_corvette Improved San Giorgio <-- not sure how different this is from the Italian version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_National_Navy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Giorgio-class_amphibious_assault_ship

Mgellis -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/4/2014 4:34:38 AM)
Not sure if this has been suggested yet or not (I looked but I did not find anything)... Improvised nuclear weapon This would actually not be hard to set up--there are plenty of smaller nukes, in the 20-kiloton range, in the DB3000 database already; what is missing is one that... A) Can be et off at 0 meters (ground level)... B) Will affect surface targets...AND... C) Has no range--it's not a missile; it's an explosive charge, so it doesn't get launched; it just gets detonated. Anything nearby, including the terrorists who set it off, or the cargo ship it was smuggled into without the knowledge of the captain and the crew, will be affected by the blast.

Mgellis -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/4/2014 11:49:18 PM)
Another aircraft for the "nice to have added someday but not critical" list... Yakovlev Yak-130 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130 Described as a trainer and a light fighter, it would not be hard to see this getting used in combat missions if a country's front line aircraft had already taken serious losses. Syria, Vietnam, and Algeria all have this jet. I don't know if it would need separate entries for each country.

Af1352pasha -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/7/2014 5:06:14 PM)
During search in data base for Russian Steregushchy class corvette Pr.20380-1-2 there is no any record of vertical launching system ( 8 x Cell )for Both below missiles: 1- KH-35 Uran SS-N-25 2- SS-N-29 Anti submarine As pr.20381 and pr.20382 use some sort of above weapons via "VLS" please kindly consider for adding to data base. link of wiki for information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushchy-class_corvette [image]local://upfiles/36167/78035ED35E6F49D991742713BFD99878.jpg[/image]

Mgellis -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/9/2014 3:13:39 AM)
Another "nice to have someday" platform, but since some versions are already in the CWDB, at least getting the data for it should not be hard... Lockheed T-33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_T-33_Shooting_Star Canadair CT-133 Silver Star http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_T-33 These mostly served as trainers, but they can carry bombs, etc., and might do well as COIN aircraft, or possibly part of a rebel air force in some parts of the world if a civil war broke out there. Most are retired, but they served in many countries through the 1990s, and Bolivia STILL operates about 30 of them.

ComDev -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/9/2014 12:47:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gsmith63 Requesting that the Mk 29 Sea Sparrow launchers on US Nimitz-class CVNs and later LHDs from ~2008+ be modified to include RIM-162D Evolved Sea Sparrow missile. Currently none of them carry it. I believe the D variant was specifically designed for use on these ships. http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=111558 http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=89533 http://www.navy.mil/view_image.asp?id=72050 http://www.bga-aeroweb.com/Defense/RIM-162-ESSM.html Gregg Updated, thanks! [8D]

Sardaukar -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/10/2014 6:11:26 AM)
Request to add more advanced Israeli ELTA etc. EW/ECM systems/pods. I noticed that all IDF/AF combat planes use EL/L 8202 ECM pods with 80's technology. This is probably not true anymore, since Israel is one of the world leaders (if not THE leader) in area of ECM. So, this technology (EL/L 8212/22 is already in game, just not in planes it seems, but some info: http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/0/36830.pdf) They should be at least 90's - 21st century tech or "advanced". Don't know how game uses the definitions. [8D] Request to add: EL/L-8247/8 Integral Self Protection Suites http://www.iai.co.il/2013/34486-26550-en/IAI.aspx http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/9/27539.pdf EL/L 8251 Escort Jammer http://www.iai.co.il/2013/34486-38684-en/IAI.aspx http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/9/36129.pdf ELISRA ASPS: http://www.elisra.com/asps.html

CV60 -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/10/2014 11:52:11 AM)
Request to add the canceled USN A-12 attack aircraft. Although canceled, it would give a hypothetical CVBG a long range strike capability, something lacking in the current F/A-18-based airwing, so could be the basis for interesting hypothetical scenarios.

lowchi -> RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues (2/10/2014 2:12:30 PM)
i have also a request for a hypothetical aircraft. RQ-180 http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_06_2013_p0-643783.xml "The RQ-180 carries radio-frequency sensors such as active, electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and passive electronic surveillance measures...." "It is similar in size and endurance to the Global Hawk, which weighs 32,250 lb. and can stay on station for 24 hr. 1,200 nm from its base...." "A key feature of the RQ-180�s design is an improvement in all-aspect, broadband radar cross-section reduction over Lockheed Martin�s F-117, F-22 and F-35. " "The RQ-180 could use a medium-�bypass-ratio engine, similar to the modified CF34 engine eyed for early X‑47-based concepts. Its engine probably has more power than the Global Hawk�s 7,600-lb.-thrust Rolls-Royce AE3007H, to provide better altitude performance and electrical power for payload growth."

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