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JCR -> Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/6/2013 11:32:15 AM)

Hi, I want to do some CW scenarios, so I need some information on how carrier groups were formed in the pre-AEGIS era.

Also, how did the british do this? There is absolutely no info around about how the old Ark Royal or other british large carriers were escorted.



.Sirius -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/6/2013 12:42:53 PM)

Hi JCR normal old Ark Royal Task Group would be 1 AO, 1 AE, 1 AFS, 1 DLG, and about 3-4 Frigates
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ORIGINAL: JCR

Hi, I want to do some CW scenarios, so I need some information on how carrier groups were formed in the pre-AEGIS era.

Also, how did the british do this? There is absolutely no info around about how the old Ark Royal or other british large carriers were escorted.




.Sirius -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/6/2013 12:46:24 PM)

Ill go thru so old books and files on my lappy and dig out proper groups for you including ship names etc for the RN



Rudd -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/6/2013 2:41:16 PM)

This may help http://www.history.navy.mil/shiphist/index.htm , The Command Operations Reports, not sure exactly what's in these but here's the Kitty Hawks menu page http://www.history.navy.mil/shiphist/k/cv63.htm , not all ships, not all years , but it may help



thewood1 -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/6/2013 5:58:26 PM)

That is some awesome reference material on US Navy deployments and squadron activities.

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ORIGINAL: Rudd

This may help http://www.history.navy.mil/shiphist/index.htm , The Command Operations Reports, not sure exactly what's in these but here's the Kitty Hawks menu page http://www.history.navy.mil/shiphist/k/cv63.htm , not all ships, not all years , but it may help



Mgellis -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/10/2013 3:02:45 AM)


This web site may help...

http://www.gonavy.jp/AirWingsf.html



JCR -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/10/2013 10:11:59 AM)

The navy.mil link is cool but sofar I've found nothing about the composition of the escort group of the carriers.



Tomcat84 -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/10/2013 10:35:15 AM)

I was wondering the same thing myself and asked in the closed forum. One useful answer that helped me was the tip that CV60 gave me, to look in Cruise Books.

Theres a bunch online here:
http://navysite.de/cruisebooks/

Now this wont always help but for example for the USS Saratoga I found this:
http://navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv60-85/020.htm

which helped me a lot :)



PaulWRoberts -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/11/2013 11:57:00 PM)

I'm glad to see this thread-I was just about to post the same question!

I'd love to see a list of different kinds of battle group or taskforce compositions for various major nations for representative eras. It would definitely help scenario designers to know what (say) a CVBG looked like in 1955/1965/1975/1985/1990 etc. (including typical aircraft).



mikedora -> RE: Composition of US/UK carrier groups in the 50s/60s/70s? (11/12/2013 9:46:12 PM)

I was on the old Ark for a couple of weeks in early 1978, sailing from Devonport to Roosevelt Roads (PR). The group consisted of the Ark herself, guided missile destroyer Devonshire, frigate Antelope, stores ship Lyness and oiler Olmeda.

MD



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