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Kathi51! -> Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 3:23:16 PM)

Dear All,

watching the very nicely done video tutorial 6, I stumbled across something I found rather puzzling.

Steve is just explaining the summary of unit/ hex under the cursor in the main form and moves to a german 4 stack hex.

Then we see ( and Steve tells us too ) LAtt 7, LDef 14 which does not really make sense to me ( thereīs a 6 strength inf as top counter ). What kind of units could the 6 strength unit be stacked with to run up to these factors.

Furthermore the display seems to indicate no air factors. So how could the hex stack 4 units?

What might I be missing?

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance!




Zorachus99 -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 4:22:17 PM)

You are doubled in Swamp and Mountain hexes for example.

Mountain units are tripled in defense in mountain hexes.



Kathi51! -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 7:52:54 PM)

Hi Zorachus,

thanks!

Sadly enough - no swamps or mountains in Belgium. Itīs a clear hex.

That wonīt do the trick. Furthermore thereīs the stacking thing.

Best regards



paulderynck -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 7:54:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kathi51!

Dear All,

watching the very nicely done video tutorial 6, I stumbled across something I found rather puzzling.

Steve is just explaining the summary of unit/ hex under the cursor in the main form and moves to a german 4 stack hex.

Then we see ( and Steve tells us too ) LAtt 7, LDef 14 which does not really make sense to me ( thereīs a 6 strength inf as top counter ). What kind of units could the 6 strength unit be stacked with to run up to these factors.

Furthermore the display seems to indicate no air factors. So how could the hex stack 4 units?

What might I be missing?

Can anybody help?

Thankīs in advance!



Are the potential attackers across a river?



Kathi51! -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:03:02 PM)

Hi Paul,

Iīd have to look, but across a river would be attacker halved - not the other way around - I guess.

And the stacking thing doesnīt make sense any way you look at it. I just closed the tutorial, but I recall Steve explicitly saying " the hex contains 4 units " and something in the way of - no air units.

A puzzle...

Best regards



warspite1 -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:06:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kathi51!

Dear All,

watching the very nicely done video tutorial 6, I stumbled across something I found rather puzzling.

Steve is just explaining the summary of unit/ hex under the cursor in the main form and moves to a german 4 stack hex.

Then we see ( and Steve tells us too ) LAtt 7, LDef 14 which does not really make sense to me ( thereīs a 6 strength inf as top counter ). What kind of units could the 6 strength unit be stacked with to run up to these factors.

Furthermore the display seems to indicate no air factors. So how could the hex stack 4 units?

What might I be missing?

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance!


warspite1

Where (what time) does this appear in the tutorial - I'd like to take a look, see if I can help. What is it that makes you think there are no aircraft in the stack?



paulderynck -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:13:41 PM)

Good point on the river, my bad. OK how about anti-tank or AA units that are doubled against potential Armor/Mech units? (C'mon I'm dyin' here - throw me a bone! [:)])

Of maybe the Tutorial was done back when there was some kind of a bug in the game that since has been eradicated. Some of them were done quite awhile ago.



michaelbaldur -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:17:39 PM)

there is a port in that hex ..

maybe a captured convoy


and one of the land units in the hex is disrupted, so 7 attack/14 defence



Kathi51! -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:20:13 PM)

Hi Warspite,

I put it in the header but now I see that itīs not fully displayed.

Itīs 0:58:35 ff.

Best regards



warspite1 -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:28:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kathi51!

Hi Warspite,

I put it in the header but now I see that itīs not fully displayed.

Itīs 0:58:35 ff.

Best regards
warspite1

Well that's clear! No aircraft and no ships.... paulderynck maybe right that this was done sometime ago and was not bug free when recorded. Or could it be a fort?



Orm -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:28:29 PM)

I think Michael got it. A disorganized land unit is certain. Then it might be a disorganized naval or air unit.

Something like in this picture.

[image]local://upfiles/29130/30BC2AE706A74CE0994175D9E0FE3F64.jpg[/image]



Kathi51! -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:34:07 PM)

Hi Paul,

I tried to work on the AA/ AT assumption too. Math doesnīt work out. Furthermore - as far as I can see - we are not in the land attack phase. Itīs general information about the hex ( I would think so - at least ).

Maybe a bug, maybe long gone... - but I am very careful here, after all the "bug reports" - a bug ... a bug ... - which turned out to be - oops didnīt quite have the rules present.

Going through MWIF Iīve stumbled across at least a dozen items ( some not small ) that I didnīt "get" in 20 years of wiffing - and I should have, knowing some guys who really know their way around the game.

Best regards



Kathi51! -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 8:45:20 PM)

Hi Michael (and Orm),

that makes sense - thanks!

No bug and I have not gone mad.

What a day!

Cheers




michaelbaldur -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 9:05:09 PM)


just ask me .. Mwif expert [:D]



Kathi51! -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 9:26:38 PM)

Iīll take you up on that...

And mind you - there will be a lot of questions.

Setting up the hardware on monday...

But jokes aside - from all I see to this point - itīs a beauty isnīt it!!!




michaelbaldur -> RE: Land attack factors-LAtt/ Land defence factors- LDef/ stacking limits- Video Tutorial 6 0:58:35 ff (12/7/2013 10:43:02 PM)


you just PM me with questions ..



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