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lion_of_judah -> NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:32:51 PM)
something I have been working on since march is now almost finished. first screenshot is of the entire map area. each hex equals 15 miles [image]local://upfiles/23616/656EA289B7164F278C04D11955AA2DE0.jpg[/image]

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:34:29 PM)
screenshot of Israel [image]local://upfiles/23616/407F5B56BD2D4580AD664385B726960A.jpg[/image]

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:35:09 PM)
screenshot of Syria [image]local://upfiles/23616/7F1C85DB98464DD1AD3044E5081B313F.jpg[/image]

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:35:37 PM)
screenshot of Islamic Republic of Iran [image]local://upfiles/23616/AAB8668B2D1F48F5A45B1F76F2C36F8B.jpg[/image]

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:36:05 PM)
screenshot of the Islamic States [image]local://upfiles/23616/A5DE2371F8364A2E984A5EBB14C96D09.jpg[/image]

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:36:42 PM)
screenshot of Palestine (Jordan) [image]local://upfiles/23616/42326619717A4D65835B43EDCCCFC06D.jpg[/image]

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 4:37:13 PM)
screenshot of a portion of India [image]local://upfiles/23616/5305B622A8BC4CC9BE4C7EF8F9CADCDC.jpg[/image]

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 10:04:09 PM)
Looks impressive what period does it cover 1948-49 1956 1967 1973

ernieschwitz -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 10:11:20 PM)
from the first look at the map presented at the top, i´d say 2012 and onwards...

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 11:38:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ironduke1955 Looks impressive what period does it cover 1948-49 1956 1967 1973 time frame is 2012 and on

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 11:40:28 PM)
Yes I saw the date but the only tanks I have seen are T54's. Most tanks in the region are T62 T72 Abrams. T54 is a bit of a antique. Correction just spotted some T62's. If you throw the MOD open for a multi-player game what side will you be playing (:

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/20/2013 11:51:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ironduke1955 Yes I saw the date but the only tanks I have seen are T54's. Most tanks in the region are T62 T72 Abrams. T54 is a bit of a antique. Correction just spotted some T62's. If you throw the MOD open for a multi-player game what side will you be playing (: I would take Israel of course.......it will be human/human player and the only two regimes active at the beginning are Israel and the Islamic states. the other regimes are active once their ally is at war or they are declared war against. Yes this would make an excellent multi player game

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 12:05:13 AM)
the Israeli's have Merkava heavy tanks level I-IV, the arabs have soviet heavy tanks T-80's and higher. the medium tanks for the arabs are T-54-T-72 and for the Israeli's their medium tanks are centurions, M-48, M-60 and the Sabra which is a modified version of the M-60. The better tanks for the arabs are the heavy tanks, but the more numerous tanks for the arabs are the medium tanks. the israeli's best tank is the Merkava (chariot) which is a heavy tank as well. but they still have medium tanks as well. what I would like to do, but my programming sucks, is have pre-defined units for the arabs and this would be the only way they would receive tanks and planes and ships but the cards would be expensive, everything else they could produce. But as it is now, they can produce tanks,planes but the research is very, very high as I stated above. what is programmed and all due to ernie not me, are the manpower and the wake regimes events.

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 12:15:18 AM)
How do you handle production because a lot of these weapon systems are not manufactured in the countries operating them, and rely on spare parts and replacement from external international sources. So replacements would be problematic based on who you are at war with.

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 12:20:44 AM)
Israeli OOB as follows off the top of my head, at work so i do not remember this 100% but this is pretty close 20 Armored Brigades 9 Mechanized Brigades 1 Infantry Brigade 3 Para Brigades over 600 combat aircraft

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 12:24:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ironduke1955 How do you handle production because a lot of these weapon systems are not manufactured in the countries operating them, and rely on spare parts and replacement from external international sources. So replacements would be problematic based on who you are at war with. the Israeli's produce their own equipment for the most part ( Merkava tank, and Kifr fighter) and iran, jordan produce their own tanks. I think Pakistan ( which is apart of the islamic states) produces some equipment but not sure tanks. for now each regime has factories for production, but research is set very, very high.... oh and India produces their own as well

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 1:00:04 AM)
I guess diplomacy will be down to the players in a multi-player game, Any option for US intervention after all they currently do have forces in some of the countries in the MOD.

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 1:13:35 AM)
i'm thinking about adding the Russians but as for the U.S. this scenario assumes the U.S. is not in the picture. (obama's arab spring has backfired, why Pakistan and Afghanistan are now united)so the U.S. is out of the picture.

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 1:24:10 AM)
at the beginning of the game, there are only two active players so the other players will not activate until the islamic states or Israel declares war. then those states ( iran, united arab republic, palestine) are immediately activated once Iran is attacked. Iran is allied with the following Palestine United arab republc (U.A.E. & Oman) Israel is allied with India Palestine is allied with Iran Arab Republic of Iraq Egypt- not allied but active if declared war against. Turkey- non-active Turkmenistan- non-active Kashmir- not allied but will become active if another regime declares war against Arabia ( Saudi Arabia)not allied, but will activate if attacked Arab Republic of Iraq allied palestine

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/21/2013 1:35:02 AM)
if i could get the V1 to work I would use these as scuds but as I have never been able to get them to work, guess I will not include them.

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/24/2013 8:54:31 PM)
have some questions regarding what certain regimes stockpile of oil should be. when a nation has prepared for war they will have a stockpile of supplies, oil and military material. i have started the Islamic states out with 200,000 oil which after 4 turns is down to 79,000. military's are able to maintain offensive operations for at least 30 days without resupply for most nations, but since this is a middle eastern nation (other than Israel) their offensive capability should be halved I'm thinking. so thoughts and opinions on this will be appreciated

lion_of_judah -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/30/2013 11:25:09 PM)
have made a regime change. Have removed Turkmenistan and added Russia in it's place.....

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/31/2013 12:04:25 AM)
"obama's arab spring has backfired, why Pakistan and Afghanistan are now united" Not sure if Obama is responsible for the Arab spring, I believe it started in Tunisia and had more to do with rejection of the old political status quo in the middle east in some countries. Duo to high unemployment Corruption nepotism and police state leaning's of the regime's. Sometimes Hi jacked by the Islamists. If you were to blame any US president it would be Bush and his overthrowing of Saddam Hussein touting western democracy. Saddam being the worst of the Arab tyrannical Regime's but also secular there was no place for extreme Islamist's in Saddam's Iraq.

Jonathan Pollard -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/31/2013 6:47:01 PM)
"If you were to blame any US president it would be Bush and his overthrowing of Saddam Hussein touting western democracy." While it's easy to blame Bush, the driving force behind the Bush administration's actions to reshape the Mideast were the Neocons. I recommend an excellent article by Israeli journalist (and former MK and Irgun fighter) Uri Avnery, which was written at the time of Saddam's fall: http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/04/09/the-night-after/

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/31/2013 8:16:04 PM)
Yep I know about the Rumsfeld's and The Cheney's but a President is like anyone else, if you have a mind to you can go against something if you believe its wrong and have the strength of will to stand opposed, Bush did not, and at best he will be remembered as weak willed, at worst a war criminal.

Twotribes -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/31/2013 8:34:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ironduke1955 Yep I know about the Rumsfeld's and The Cheney's but a President is like anyone else, if you have a mind to you can go against something if you believe its wrong and have the strength of will to stand opposed, Bush did not, and at best he will be remembered as weak willed, at worst a war criminal. So much for no politics, by the way you are wrong.

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/31/2013 9:59:07 PM)
First I did not start the Politics so you are wrong "obama's arab spring has backfired, why Pakistan and Afghanistan are now united" this is what got me started on Politics. And second its not as if the jury is out on the Iraq war, it was a war started under false pretenses that is not speculation but fact. Half a million people have died so far and a lot more may still die. Your right politics should not be introduced on the forum and I will stay clear unless I see a lie go unchallenged.

Twotribes -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (12/31/2013 10:35:13 PM)
Doubling down I see. What part of NO POLITICS don't you understand?

ironduke1955 -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (1/1/2014 3:07:20 AM)
"Doubling down I see. What part of NO POLITICS don't you understand?" Read the posts the initial Political comment was from Lion of Judah IT WAS "obama's arab spring has backfired, why Pakistan and Afghanistan are now united" unless you agree with this comment. I suggest you address your no politics comment to him. If I read any other similar comments I will reserve the right to make my own opinions on the matter bloody well known. No politics I agree with and apply to my own posts if others don't obey that rule then all bets are off.

GrumpyMel -> RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME (1/2/2014 4:43:38 PM)
Hey guys, relax...it's a wargame not an election....and the scenario is clearly hypothetical, though with alot of historical authenticity. The author could have stated "because the Martian Overlords willed it" and it would be accurate for his hypothetical scenario of what happaned....so no need to go around challenging the accuracy of anything because in any hypothetical work the author is always the absolute authority of what happaned in that alternate universe to set the stage for his scenario.

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