Telumar -> RE: Mapping Italy.. (2/24/2014 7:09:32 PM)
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ORIGINAL: ogar I also suspect that there would be less olive trees in the 1940's. You can see the density shift in different parts of the pic above. My guess is that density is related to 'closeness to irrigation/underground water' and also to maturity (larger trees have more room cut between them). In the 1940's I'd guess the dense areas would be groves, where the sparse areas would be cropland. (In those days, the olive trade was not as large as presently and the need for growing local grain crops was stronger.) Very good points. However, agriculture has been intesified by the Fascists since 1922. Also, the absence of surface water over large areas led to the construction of the Apulian Aqueduct (1906–39). But i would think you're right about the olive trade. quote:
ORIGINAL: ogar If there hills involved, and defined areas of level ground, I'd put the Light Woods on the hills, and cropland on the level areas. And this is what i did further south in Calabria. There, however, the olive/citrus/vineyard density is not as dense as in Puglia, especially not as dense as in the area northwest and west of Brindisi. quote:
ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653 If line of sight would be obscured to any degree, and off road movement is reduced, then I guess you would go with light woods. If line of sight is good but off road movement is reduced, then I would guess the cropland would be used. It was a good point until Bob showed up...[:D][;)] However, the manual states (19.2 - Notes on combat resolution): quote:
Open Vision locations have no precipitation and no terrain other than Open, Arid, Roads, Rivers, Rocky, Escarpments, Canals, or Sandy. Restricted Vision locations have Heavy Precipitation, Heavy Cultivated, Urban, Urban Ruin, or Forest terrain That would leave light woods and cropland (light cultivated) as normal vision. But maybe this contemporary photo settles the discussion..i would say that qualifies for light forest, occasionally intersected with cropland. [image]http://www.bridgepugliausa.it/images/art_gallery/201253247.jpg[/image] It's from this website: http://www.bridgepugliausa.it/articolo.asp?id_sez=1&id_cat=33&id_art=3591&lingua=en and its caption says:"Panoramic view of the plain studded with age-old olive trees that stretches between Monopoli, Fasano, Ostuni and Carovigno." The screenshot from google maps i posted earlier is from that area (roughly). On the map this would be here (red oval): [image]local://upfiles/19263/3BCADCF77A1140D2A25616274A0D71A1.jpg[/image] EDIT: light woods are apparently no forest terrain - changed the according phrase in the post..
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