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Lowpe -> Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 5:31:42 PM)

I am picking up the pieces from a dropped game where the Allies are doing quite well. This is a scenario 6 game, not beta yet, but will be shortly.

The bad news: It is July 23, 1942 and the Allies have Manila, Java, and just took Tarawa. There is basically no defenses in the North Pacific and the Central Pacific.

The oil in the DEI is open to strategic bombing with no defenses. But on the good news front, the Vietnam militia have activated and I have several squadrons of Jeans on the front lines and most air units have between 20 and 50 morale.

The following screens will show you how bad things are...any advice greatly appreciated as I have very little experience with some of these settings.

So strap yourself in as Tiemanj is going for the throat!





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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 5:34:25 PM)

The big picture...air losses are really high as the previous Japanese High command had all planes flying at max range with strange settings designed to increase fatigue to abnormally high levels. What a slave driver he was....

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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 5:37:59 PM)

Plane production is quite rational however and soon the skies will be full of Rufes. <ugh>.

But hey, look at those tanks rolling off the assembly line....what numbers! And the merchant pool is quite big too.

So, overall the economy is quite rosy.

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Lokasenna -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 5:52:35 PM)

I would say get your economy under control and then pick your MLRs. The DEI is still a long ways away from his reinforcement centers, while closer to yours, and is probably still be worth taking Java, if you can.



Captain Cruft -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 5:54:15 PM)

LOL



Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 5:59:53 PM)

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Plane production is quite rational however and soon the skies will be full of Rufes.


Realistic R&D is off so you can change these to research the A6M5.

Likewise, rather than discarding the huge investment in A6M2 factories you can push them through the Sen Buku to research the A6M8.

Realistic R&D off may give you other opportunities: working on the D5Y1, G4M3a, Ki-43-IV that are usually not that easy and can, maybe, push the Ki-44-IIc forward.

Otherwise, priorities seem to me to be:
1. Sort economy,
2. Take Java
3. Take Manila
4. Build defenses
5. Take China

Any HRs or can you flatten Chinese industry, once your air force is fixed?



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 6:18:50 PM)

Speaking of R&D here is the major focus. It seems rather haphazard, but you can draw your own conclusions:



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 6:25:22 PM)


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Any HRs or can you flatten Chinese industry, once your air force is fixed?



There are some house rules: no xakl pickets, no 4E naval bombing low, and no bombing china strategically.

Thanks for the advice, I have no experience with unrealistic r&d.







Lokasenna -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 6:36:54 PM)

That size 105 Frank factory [X(]

+1 to what Spidery said.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 6:39:12 PM)

While we are on planes, let's look at the pilot situation. I have enhanced Traccom with everybody I can find that makes the grade (it was at 20 pilots previously).

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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 6:48:55 PM)

A Rufe Squadron hard at work on the front lines! This is after one day of R&R!

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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:02:55 PM)

I have two A6M3 Squadrons. The elite right? These guys are on the front lines fighting over Java.

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Captain Cruft -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:06:06 PM)

Looks to me like Southern Army does not have 20,000 supplies, wherever it is located.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:08:36 PM)

The Zeroes here had a 19 morale after this duck shoot with Lightnings....



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:20:13 PM)

Southern Army is in Oosthaven with the A6M3 and the remnants of a crushed attack on Merak. It probably didn't help that their minds were still on Singapore.

There is 12,000 supply in Oosthaven, and a scant 3000 in Palembung. But lots of oil.

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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:23:54 PM)

Playing a dropped game is like eating a box of candy....you never really know what you are going to get.

This little gem was in the first turn I got to watch...the brave 4ID is attacking out of a beach head in Java (which btw, have level four forts).

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JocMeister -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:24:09 PM)

Wow, talk about a tough challenge! Good luck! [:)]



Capt. Harlock -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:26:27 PM)

quote:

This little gem was in the first turn I got to watch...the brave 4ID is attacking out of a beach head in Java (which btw, have level four forts).


It's time to go back and get a bigger stick.



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:29:48 PM)

The subsequent counter attack was only a bombardment, but then the following day...No Joy for the 4th...



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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:36:53 PM)

The Remnants of the 4th. They took a little morale hit...in the background you can see the major air base, Toboali (lvl 6) with no supply and no fuel, but plenty of resources.

It is no wonder the 200 plus pilots there have no morale.

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Captain Cruft -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 7:46:07 PM)

This looks like the AI to me, not a human ...



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 8:05:32 PM)

Ok, I gotta work on my turn a little.

Some other salient points...

The allied 4Es are intact and whole, and pre beta coordinate attacks very nicely.

The KB is in Singapore, with about the entire Japanese fleet and there is no, as in zero, fuel there. Oddly, there are some tankers scattered singly in ports all over the place.

There are no capital ships in the home islands, truk, central pacific, north pacific, really, anywhere, but Singapore and off Java. And I am including Destroyers in my loose interpretation of capital ship here. Most subs are between Baker and Hawaii with full torpedo loads.

Sapporo HI shut down due to lack of fuel. I shut off the Merchant shipyards and stopped a lot of xakls. Miri is still heavily damaged and has only 6k supply. There still seem to be enemy minefields at Balikpapen.

There is no ASW effort. Well, maybe one squadron of Petes somewhere.

I am woefully short of AKEs, AS, ARs, ACMS, AVs and I am bleeding losses from low garrisons all over the place.

I will put up shots of the theaters later but there isn't much to see. It is quite distressing and I have reached my limit for now.

My rough plan: Economy, Rest and Reorganize. I think my opponent will be very aggressive in Java so I will try to ultimately use that against him...and I need to understand unrealistic R&D.

The few political points I have will be used in changing leaders...I have some real winners in some of the fighter squadrons. 25 air...jeesh.

















Spidery -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 8:51:38 PM)

Looks like you could do with more Vehicle production and you may as well provide it by converting Armament factories as you have an impressive stockpile of armaments. Something like converting 100 factories (if supply is available).

What is the supply situation like?

Is engine production okay or has he over expanded the R&D factories?




Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 9:20:58 PM)

The Java Front.

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Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/17/2014 9:27:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL:
Is engine production okay or has he over expanded the R&D factories?


Here is the engine production for 31-35. Less than 10 in pool for all but the 31. I will put some tracker posts up later...



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CaptBeefheart -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/18/2014 2:10:45 AM)

Holy Sisyphean task, Batman! Good luck!

Cheers,
CC



Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/18/2014 2:48:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft

This looks like the AI to me, not a human ...


No, definitely a person. My mind rebels at all the fragments, the utter chaos, that resulted from looking for a big win and ignoring everything else.






Lowpe -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/18/2014 2:50:49 AM)

Major Capital ships lost, doesn't look too bad, but the IJN has lost lots of ships. British Carrier losses might provide some opportunities.



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obvert -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/18/2014 3:28:52 AM)

Well, this should be fun to put back together. No pressure at least. If you can get what you need in the DEI and get production, oil/fuel shipments and other logistical details back in order, you should be alright.

Good luck!



Captain Cruft -> RE: Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock (2/18/2014 9:56:03 AM)

I took over a game back in the WitP days. It was nothing like as messy as this but it was still a lot of fun sorting things out.



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