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markhwalker -> Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 2:24:22 PM)

A short blog post with my ideas on future games. You can read it here.



Bulldog1 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 3:02:52 PM)

I say "Semper Fi"



jhdeerslayer -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 3:16:59 PM)

Pacific tactical games are rare - so my vote.



Werewolf13 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 3:28:01 PM)

Since the focus of Heroes is Company/Squad level battles one might consider some Vietnam scenarios. Many possibilities that cover both rural and urban fighting, regular forces v irregulars, special forces missions, Marine Long Range Recon missions all on widely variable terrain that range from jungles, to open fields, rice paddies, small villages to heavily urban locales. Search and Destroy, assasination, rescue, recon - the possibilities are endless.



Thomasew -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 3:42:42 PM)


2nd'd .. Forgotten Heroes - Vietnam .. [:)]

Cheers
Tom



wodin -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 3:47:56 PM)

You need o expand the unit count and cover the eats front throughout the years..then move onto another theatre\war. I'd be extremely peeved if the East front was now left with no more maps\units to cover other years of the conflict.



fran52 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 4:02:02 PM)

To expand the east front could be enough a set of new counters with proper value.West front,Pacific front and North Africa front are really new games with new features like parachute for west(Normandy),landing craft both for west and Pacific,Banzai charge for the Japanese and also the war in the desert can add something.
With the editor i think that is possible to cover others battle in the east but we need the counters, specially for the 1941 AFV and after 42 AFV.



z1812 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 4:18:31 PM)

I believe that most here would enjoy any expansion but of course would prefer their favourite theatre and time period excepting space monsters and large robots. [;)]

If it were my game I would first create a HoS expansion including more troop and vehicle types, such as Paratroopers, SMG units, SU-85, Puma, Katyusha Rockets, and the like. Weapons such as Grenade Bundles, and Magnetic Mines. The map types could be more rural with, dare I say it, 2 story buildings.

Next would be West front as most of the German Kit is already available. Initially with Americans and expansions to follow with allied forces.

Then I would move into alternate history with a late 1945 war erupting between east and west. Units already available from previous games with the addition of some of the heavier tanks such as the Pershing.

France 1940 is sadly lacking a good tactical game and would be quite attractive to people. Of course there is the vast panoply of post 50's, the Cold War and the modern era. Not to mention WW1.

When you have completed all of that why not a game where, as a branch campaign, a few world war 1 British soldiers, who are also vampires, discover a time machine and are transported back to the American Revolutionary War. With their help the war is won for Britain and Starbucks Teashops spread civilization throughout the World. [;)]



Thomasew -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 4:54:56 PM)

I'll be extremely peeved if we get any more East Front expansions/addons. I bought HoS because of the Game System, which I like .. but, I rarely play it anymore. E.F. holds no interest for me. [>:]

We need new Theatres of War, .. not the same boring old thing (E.F.) with multiple addons. There are so many games available for the E.F., ... It's gotten beyond tedious now. [>:]


Tom




fentum -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 5:47:18 PM)

How about zombie pirates vs robo dinosaurs?

[:D][:D][:D]



rickier65 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 6:03:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Werewolf1326

Since the focus of Heroes is Company/Squad level battles one might consider some Vietnam scenarios. Many possibilities that cover both rural and urban fighting, regular forces v irregulars, special forces missions, Marine Long Range Recon missions all on widely variable terrain that range from jungles, to open fields, rice paddies, small villages to heavily urban locales. Search and Destroy, assasination, rescue, recon - the possibilities are endless.


+1

Rick



wodin -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 6:13:22 PM)

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Thomasew

I'll be extremely peeved if we get any more East Front expansions/addons. I bought HoS because of the Game System, which I like .. but, I rarely play it anymore. E.F. holds no interest for me. [>:]

We need new Theatres of War, .. not the same boring old thing (E.F.) with multiple addons. There are so many games available for the E.F., ... It's gotten beyond tedious now. [>:]


Tom






Barthheart -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 6:21:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.



What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....




fentum -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 6:28:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Thomasew

I'll be extremely peeved if we get any more East Front expansions/addons. I bought HoS because of the Game System, which I like .. but, I rarely play it anymore. E.F. holds no interest for me. [>:]

We need new Theatres of War, .. not the same boring old thing (E.F.) with multiple addons. There are so many games available for the E.F., ... It's gotten beyond tedious now. [>:]


Tom







On a more serious note than zombie pirates, I didn't REALLY buy an east front game, I bought a Lock n Load game. It happened to be EF. I would have preferred a west front set, but I'll take what I can get. Strangely enough, and counter to that, I would never buy a Vietnam setting, but would buy any other WW2 stuff in a flash.






Werewolf13 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 6:31:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

You need o expand the unit count and cover the eats front throughout the years..then move onto another theatre\war. I'd be extremely peeved if the East front was now left with no more maps\units to cover other years of the conflict.


Maybe this deserves its own thread in the General discussion area but:

I've been wargaming since 1961 or '62 (I forget) and in all that time I have never really understood the fascination so many wargamers have with the east front. To me its just outnumbered tech guys [sm=Evil-210.gif] meet savage hordes. [sm=scared0008.gif]

Could someone enlighten me please...



Thomasew -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 6:50:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.



As Fentum also said, .. I didn't buy an Eastern Front game, .. I bought the 1st Lock 'n Load computer game, .. that, unfortunately, is set in the Eastern Front.[:(]

I think it's only fair, .. that those that like the Lock 'n Load series of games, be afforded an opportunity to play a PC version, in a non-Eastern Front setting.

Once a couple of different Theatres are out there, .. there's nothing to stop the developers from adding to the existing released games, .. by adding additional units/maps/scenarios etc.

I suggested Forgotten Heroes - Vietnam, as it's the first Lock 'n Load game I purchased, and have enjoyed it through many, many games. Haven't played it in a while though, so, it would be great to play a PC version. [:)]

.. but, given the LnL game system/mechanics, .. I would be happy with anything .. with the exception of the Eastern Front in WW2. [>:]

Would love some Cold War/Modern Conflicts (NATO vs PACT) as well. [:)]


Tom



vonRocko -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 7:24:18 PM)

Pacific! Yes, by all means.



Capitaine -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 7:44:36 PM)

Keep it in WWII. Definitely not 'Nam. Normandy or Pacific would probably have good infantry engagements which is the featured action in LnL Heroes games.



z1812 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 9:40:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Barthheart


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.



What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....




See my post 8 for some specific units.



fentum -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 9:41:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Capitaine

Keep it in WWII. Definitely not 'Nam. Normandy or Pacific would probably have good infantry engagements which is the featured action in LnL Heroes games.



This exactly.



Barthheart -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 10:15:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Capitaine

Keep it in WWII. Definitely not 'Nam. Normandy or Pacific would probably have good infantry engagements which is the featured action in LnL Heroes games.


Forgotten Heroes Vietnam was the very first LnL series title. Band of Heroes (Normandy) was the next one.



KEYSTONE07950 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 10:18:05 PM)

I know it's not the Lock N Load system, but I'd LOVE to see Nuklear Winter'68 on the PC.

Pretty Please [&o]



Barthheart -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 10:20:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: z1812


quote:

ORIGINAL: Barthheart


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.



What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....




See my post 8 for some specific units.


Ok, there are some vehicles to be added. As for troops, SMG units are basically the 2-3-4 assault move Soviets. Paratroops could be ant type, I won't be able to add rules for para drops. Boards are kind of small for rocket launchers..... Let me see what I can pull together.



aaatoysandmore -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 10:21:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Thomasew

I'll be extremely peeved if we get any more East Front expansions/addons. I bought HoS because of the Game System, which I like .. but, I rarely play it anymore. E.F. holds no interest for me. [>:]

We need new Theatres of War, .. not the same boring old thing (E.F.) with multiple addons. There are so many games available for the E.F., ... It's gotten beyond tedious now. [>:]


Tom




Agreed, my vote for Pacific theater.



madDdog67 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 10:54:40 PM)

Well, while we wait to see who's favorite theater gets done next (if at all), I think that if you (Mark and Tom) can develop the editor a bit to make it a tad more user friendly and make some of the other LnL maps available, some talented folks here would be more than happy to gen up a bunch of new content. Yeah, it would be "unofficial", but it would tide folks over until an expansion gets released somewhere down the road. And you could get all of us off your back for a while :).



wodin -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/6/2014 11:50:37 PM)

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.



Barthheart -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/7/2014 12:05:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.


LOL! Well, I only have access to some of the published game stuff so no to most of what you just listed. [;)]

I do have more armour and some weapons I think... let me poke around this weekend and see what I can piece together.




baloo7777 -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/7/2014 12:12:54 AM)

Anything that adds to this game system is fine with me. I prefer the western front, but any units or maps would be great. I have been playing the new user created scenarios and look forward to more to come. [8D]



wodin -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/7/2014 1:40:01 AM)

Cool!!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Barthheart


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.


LOL! Well, I only have access to some of the published game stuff so no to most of what you just listed. [;)]

I do have more armour and some weapons I think... let me poke around this weekend and see what I can piece together.






Horvo -> RE: Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next? (3/7/2014 1:59:25 AM)

For me it all depends on what is easiest and will come out the quickest. If using the existing LnL board games makes it much easier and faster to come out with a PC version, then do that. If there is no difference, then I would prefer different settings than already exist in the board games, since I have three of them already.



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