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GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/12/2014 6:59:22 AM)
Oct, 7-10 1942 The situation in India is becoming every day more critical. At Darjeliing the 3rd Para Regiment failed to take back the base and so we were forced to engage a mortal air battle with his P-40s and 39s. We had the upper hand, for the moment, and plastered the base but we are far from conquering. At the same time, the allied army is marching towards Patna. Has crossed the river and now is marching towards our 21st Army, which has moved out of Patna in order to face the invaders. there in the open, the allies keep on bombing my troops merciless but, so far, the japanese flak is doing a good job. Ranchi has initially been closed by his 4Es, but now the engineers have already repaired the fields and our fighters have moved back in. The whole position in the west was becoming critical. Couldn't efford to spread my tiny resources to defend the whole indian perimeter, so a decision was taken: abbandon the west (except for Madras) and concentrate on Ceylon and the eastern India. Sad to see the subcontinent abbandoned without a fight... About India, i truly think i've made a mistake going there. I thought to do what Mr.Kane did against me, bottling up a consistent allied force and gain many many supplies, fuel and oil in the process... no joy. I've just spent so many supplies for nothing. For sure i've consumed more supplies than what i gained going there... The only good thing was that the allies were kept far from the DEI for one year...but at what cost?? and now, at Patna, i am really risking to lose a whole army...not good at all! The KB-1 remains in the I.O., near Diego Garcia, covering the retreat to Ceylon of the 15th Army...but it's again spotted by his damned subs...which seem to be everywhere! We are also keeping on consolidating a smaller perimeter in Oz, moving back the bulk of our armies to safer positions. In SOPAC, a glen a/c spotted the american CVs near Lungaville. Gotta be carefull. The allied subs keep on delivering men and supplies to the front lines, after Rekata Bay now it's the turn of Tagula Island (east of Milne Bay), which is already a level 1 AF with fighters on it...[:-]. We will have to deal with it, unfortunately. In CENTPAC, the allies are now concentrating their recon missions on Makin and Nauru Island. Mines and CD guns are now being delivered there. hopefully we can make make the conquest a little bit bloody for the invaders[:'(] KI-44 IIb and KI-61 Ia are now online. slowly were equipping the first squadrons of these new fighters in India. I guess we'll find out pretty soon how they will perform. CHINA: The allies have moved many more fighters in China and they seem to be willing to stay this time. Transfering two more fighter sentais here (Tojo and Oscar IIb). Will be glad to fight them in China. We're still stuck at Chikkiang. Supplies are getting critical again all over this theatre and will need to ship another convoy in order to resume the attacks... China, just like india, has been a strategic failure so far

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/12/2014 7:26:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy Oct, 7-10 1942 The situation in India is becoming every day more critical. At Darjeliing the 3rd Para Regiment failed to take back the base and so we were forced to engage a mortal air battle with his P-40s and 39s. We had the upper hand, for the moment, and plastered the base but we are far from conquering. At the same time, the allied army is marching towards Patna. Has crossed the river and now is marching towards our 21st Army, which has moved out of Patna in order to face the invaders. there in the open, the allies keep on bombing my troops merciless but, so far, the japanese flak is doing a good job. Ranchi has initially been closed by his 4Es, but now the engineers have already repaired the fields and our fighters have moved back in. The whole position in the west was becoming critical. Couldn't efford to spread my tiny resources to defend the whole indian perimeter, so a decision was taken: abbandon the west (except for Madras) and concentrate on Ceylon and the eastern India. Sad to see the subcontinent abbandoned without a fight... You doing excellent job out there. quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy About India, i truly think i've made a mistake going there. I thought to do what Mr.Kane did against me, bottling up a consistent allied force and gain many many supplies, fuel and oil in the process... no joy. I've just spent so many supplies for nothing. For sure i've consumed more supplies than what i gained going there... The only good thing was that the allies were kept far from the DEI for one year...but at what cost?? and now, at Patna, i am really risking to lose a whole army...not good at all! Well, I invaded India to have fun, not to get supplies ;) But I have invaded, next I moved all supplies/fuel/resources I could back to Singapore and I was gone before June '42. I did not engage you there for long time there. quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy The KB-1 remains in the I.O., near Diego Garcia, covering the retreat to Ceylon of the 15th Army...but it's again spotted by his damned subs...which seem to be everywhere! What you waiting for just sunk all of them. It is opportunity to gain a lot of experience for you pilots and a few VP. Just set Vals to Search 30% and 30% ASW and the same with Kate at close range 3-5. They do not need ASW skill just number of planes will do job. Ask Michael or Jocke they will confirm that this method works. Hey man, you have over 400 planes and you frighten by a few subs :) It should be opportunity not issue for you. "Always look for bright side ..." :)

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/12/2014 7:40:08 AM)
:-) Hi Tom, I'm doing that right now... but i hate having one of my KB discovered! The best way to use the KB, imho, is to keep it in the shadow and let the allied player guessing where it is! Only june 42? Really? I remember differently!...oh well! Now the real question is: can i hold the line of Patna with what i have there? The 2nd Army will threaten the flank of the allied advance, so he won't be able to concentrate everything in a single hex...at least that's the plan [image]local://upfiles/37890/91B10CD5C59A47F3BC45887C0E8C4A4F.jpg[/image]

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/12/2014 7:59:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy :-) Hi Tom, I'm doing that right now... but i hate having one of my KB discovered! The best way to use the KB, imho, is to keep it in the shadow and let the allied player guessing where it is! Only june 42? Really? I remember differently!...oh well! Now the real question is: can i hold the line of Patna with what i have there? The 2nd Army will threaten the flank of the allied advance, so he won't be able to concentrate everything in a single hex...at least that's the plan [image]local://upfiles/37890/91B10CD5C59A47F3BC45887C0E8C4A4F.jpg[/image] Well my English, I have eaten word "end". It should be "before end of June" ;) KB should go silent before action yes. But sometimes it is good to show it either for one two days and next change theatre. Let you opponent think he knows where it is. For example: Expose KB close to one of your base, move to the base there a few Val & Kate and start flying NavSearch, and move out silently KB. I do not how you using yours warship's seaplanes, but they should be your close range eyes when KB is staying in dark. I am afraid I can only talk about general use of yours assets in respond to you AAR, but I cannot advice you in yours battles. I am reading other side too. ;) But you doing pretty well, and you are very good tactician so no need my advices anyway.

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/12/2014 9:13:49 AM)
BTW. Here is hint for using KB to hunt subs: Let say you have sub in within bearings 30 degree west of you position and you have 6 CV. You can set all you squadrons to ASW & SEARCH within those 30 degree bearings. This will give you 6 Val and 6 Kate on Search missions and the same amount on ASW mission over each 10 degree during each phase AM and PM. Next go to you squadrons and split them into 3 pieces. Now you have 18 Val and 18 Kate on each mission type during each day phase over each 10 degree bearings. I hope this will help you with subs hunting.

crsutton -> RE: Indian fightings (10/12/2014 10:02:34 PM)
I find that air units set to full ASW and set to very close range-even 0 hexes do the job just fine. No need to set search-aircraft on ASW are searching anyways. The short range does not give you away but when you do find a sub, your aircraft will pound it. You run the risk of a sub in your hex hitting you but with massive ASW set to the hex, the chance is unlikely. No harm setting a squadron to night as well.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 9:35:51 AM)
Oct 11-13, 1942 In India things are really becoming intense! On the 11th, 50 B17-Es arrive at 28,000 feet over Ranchi, met by 180 Japanese fighters. The fortresses did a great job, downing more than 15 of my fighters (at disadvantage because of the CAP limit set at 20,000 feet). The following day (12th), 1000 allied planes arrived over Ranchi. Erik sent everything he had. Fighters and bombers of every type. From the Mahawks to the Bolos, from the Chinese SB to the hurricanes Mk-I. I had foreseen this move and evacuated Ranchi AF. The base is closed and plastered, but my air force remains strong. In the meanwhile, we evacuated everything in the west but Madras, and Patna's flank seems to be safe for the moment. The allies keep on moving their armies, but their flank is threatened... On the 13th Erik decides he wants to close Patna. The battle that resulted was one of the bloodiest of the whole war. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 12 A6M5 Zero x 90 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 42 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42 Allied aircraft P-66 Vanguard x 11 SB-III x 12 Blenheim IV x 22 Hurricane IIb Trop x 22 Hurricane IIc Trop x 49 Liberator II x 10 Wellington Ic x 6 A-29 Hudson x 16 B-18A Bolo x 12 B-17E Fortress x 33 B-17F Fortress x 9 B-24D Liberator x 13 B-25C Mitchell x 19 B-26 Marauder x 6 B-26B Marauder x 20 P-38E Lightning x 3 P-39D Airacobra x 10 P-40E Warhawk x 61 F4F-3A Wildcat x 5 F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SB-III: 2 damaged Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged Liberator II: 1 damaged Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged A-29 Hudson: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 13 damaged B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged B-26 Marauder: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 39 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb 13 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 10 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 1 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 1 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 2 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 6 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (7 airborne, 16 on standby, 22 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (7 airborne, 16 on standby, 22 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (7 airborne, 14 on standby, 21 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (7 airborne, 14 on standby, 21 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Tojiri, S. in a A6M5 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-24D Liberator out of formation Ohtsuki, T. in a A6M5 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-24D Liberator out of formation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 11 A6M5 Zero x 78 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 38 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 38 Allied aircraft A-29A Hudson x 12 P-43A-1 Lancer x 2 SB-III x 9 Beaufighter VIc x 7 Hudson IIIa x 3 Hurricane IIb Trop x 16 Hurricane IIc Trop x 13 Wellington Ic x 4 A-20A1 Havoc x 8 B-17E Fortress x 16 B-17F Fortress x 12 B-24D Liberator x 3 B-26 Marauder x 16 P-38E Lightning x 1 P-400 Airacobra x 3 P-40E Warhawk x 24 F4F-3A Wildcat x 18 F4F-4 Wildcat x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses A-29A Hudson: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged SB-III: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Wellington Ic: 2 destroyed A-20A1 Havoc: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed B-26 Marauder: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 4 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 7 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb 3 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 2 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x A-20A1 Havoc bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 2 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 2 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. 26 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 77 minutes 14 planes vectored on to bombers 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 22 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (4 airborne, 3 on standby, 16 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 3 on standby, 13 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 9 A6M5 Zero x 73 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32 Allied aircraft P-43A-1 Lancer x 8 SB-III x 10 Blenheim IV x 12 Hudson IIIa x 12 Hurricane IIc Trop x 23 P-38E Lightning x 3 P-400 Airacobra x 3 P-40E Warhawk x 32 F4F-4 Wildcat x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SB-III: 6 destroyed Blenheim IV: 7 destroyed Hudson IIIa: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15931. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 29 planes vectored on to bombers 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling) 12 plane(s) intercepting now. 18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 27 planes vectored on to bombers 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. 22 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes 23 planes vectored on to bombers 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 15 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes 28 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 7 A6M5 Zero x 58 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 24 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25 Allied aircraft P-43A-1 Lancer x 8 Blenheim IV x 26 Hurricane I Trop x 16 Hurricane IIa Trop x 11 Hurricane IIb Trop x 32 Hurricane IIc Trop x 28 Wellington Ic x 8 B-18A Bolo x 12 B-17E Fortress x 3 B-17F Fortress x 6 B-25C Mitchell x 15 B-26 Marauder x 6 P-400 Airacobra x 3 P-40E Warhawk x 53 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed Wellington Ic: 2 damaged B-18A Bolo: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged B-17F Fortress: 5 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak B-26 Marauder: 4 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 7 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 8 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (21 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 21 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 92 minutes 10 planes vectored on to bombers 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 18 plane(s) intercepting now. 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 10 planes vectored on to bombers 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 15 plane(s) intercepting now. 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 20 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 5 A6M5 Zero x 40 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 18 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16 Allied aircraft Hudson IIIa x 6 Hurricane IIb Trop x 22 Hurricane IIc Trop x 36 Mohawk IV x 16 B-24D Liberator x 10 B-25C Mitchell x 6 P-38E Lightning x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 35 F4F-3A Wildcat x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed by flak Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 6 damaged Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 4 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 14 plane(s) intercepting now. 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 6 planes vectored on to bombers 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes 6 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 1 A6M5 Zero x 24 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIc x 7 Hurricane IIb Trop x 6 Hurricane IIc Trop x 28 B-26 Marauder x 6 P-38E Lightning x 2 P-400 Airacobra x 3 F4F-3A Wildcat x 18 F4F-4 Wildcat x 11 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Patna , at 54,30 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 1 A6M5 Zero x 20 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 14 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 16 Hurricane IIc Trop x 28 B-26 Marauder x 6 P-40E Warhawk x 18 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 3rd Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers 6th Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers 11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 8 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18375. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers 85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers 2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 7000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers Japan lost 45 planes in this battle, while the allies more than 160! The base is still operative, and 200 fresh fighters have just replaced the fatigued heroes of today. We're ready to fight again! The allied LRCAP performed really well today, but these kind of missions cannot really be performed for many days due to the fatigue accumulated in all those hours of prolongued fights. In the meanwhile, on the 12th the Japanese paras reconquered back Djanegereen, and now the USMC paras are being pounded to oblivion. Tomorrow the KI-44b should see its first action... finger crossed In CHINA, we attacked chikkiang again. No joy in dropping forts...[:o]. P-48s appeared over Chikkiang and score some 15 kills among my bombers... my escort performs really poorly lately. In SOPAC, the allies are on the move again. BBs and CVs spotted near Lungaville moving north... We just delivered some GD guns at Nauru Island, along with 3 good AA units. Flak arrived also in Northern Oz and a division plus 4 brigades and construction units are re-grouping in the Mariannas to be sent to the front.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 9:47:43 AM)
The butcher's bill of the day (Japanese bombers and some of the Oscar IIb are lost over China and not in the battle of Patna) [image]local://upfiles/37890/7250641DBF324E9586AE5547F0D369F3.jpg[/image]

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 9:48:06 AM)
For atoll I would suggest cheap 20mm AA from Kwantung Army. He need attack atolls with carriers DB within range of 20mm.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 9:59:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane For atoll I would suggest cheap 20mm AA from Kwantung Army. He need attack atolls with carriers DB within range of 20mm. yup, done! Always do that for atolls. At Nauru Is. I have 1 regiment with 88mm pieces, one with 10cm and one with 20mm, plus some DP guns. Should be enough to force him a major commitment here

EHansen -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 11:57:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane For atoll I would suggest cheap 20mm AA from Kwantung Army. He need attack atolls with carriers DB within range of 20mm. Why? If he ground attacks at 9000 feet, he is above all AA 25mm or smaller.

mind_messing -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 12:14:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EHansen quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane For atoll I would suggest cheap 20mm AA from Kwantung Army. He need attack atolls with carriers DB within range of 20mm. Why? If he ground attacks at 9000 feet, he is above all AA 25mm or smaller. Dive bombers (when not level or glide bombing) drop to 1000-3000 ft when making their attacks - right in the middle of the envelope for smaller AA weapons. It will force the attacker to either use his dive bombers in the level or glide settings (much less effective) or suffer planes lost and damaged to flak.

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 12:19:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing quote: ORIGINAL: EHansen quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane For atoll I would suggest cheap 20mm AA from Kwantung Army. He need attack atolls with carriers DB within range of 20mm. Why? If he ground attacks at 9000 feet, he is above all AA 25mm or smaller. Dive bombers (when not level or glide bombing) drop to 1000-3000 ft when making their attacks - right in the middle of the envelope for smaller AA weapons. Glide does work anymore. DB can be dive or level bomber. I am assuming that most of players, me including will go for dive with DB ;)

crsutton -> RE: Indian fightings (10/13/2014 2:53:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy The butcher's bill of the day (Japanese bombers and some of the Oscar IIb are lost over China and not in the battle of Patna) [image]local://upfiles/37890/7250641DBF324E9586AE5547F0D369F3.jpg[/image] Unsustainable losses for the Allies. This did not have to take place. Poor use of his fighters.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/14/2014 1:33:33 PM)
Oct 14-15, 1942 INDIA: On the 14th nothing happens and both the allies and the Japanese air forces lick their wounds. Patna is 100% repaired, while the 2nd Army marches NW to threaten the exposed flank of the allied advance towards Patna. On the 15th the battles rages on once again. The Japs, in order to support the planned attack against the allied flank, sends several LRCAP+SWEEP missions against the now contested hex, while in the afternoon more than 140 Japanese bombers fly to suppress the allied stack. The allies do the same, sending LRCAP+ SWEEPs + bombers. The result in the air battles favours japan, with 39 planes lost against the 52 of the allies. The shock attack attempted by 2 Japanese divisions gets a 1-1, while another jap ID arrives but do not participate to the fight. If we manage to break here, the allied 60,000 men stack near Patna will be surrounded and cut off without any supply path...BANZAI! SOPAC: The allies bomb Lunga with 4Es and Havocs, while 2 strong cruiser TFs approaches Lunga (heavy recon on Tulagi too). At least 3 Brookling Class CLs and 3 more CAs are present. Pretty sure the CVs are present too. The Japanese Navy is ready near Buin, with Tanaka leading 3 BBs, 3 CAs, 5 CLs and 35 DDs. 4 CVs are lingering near Rabaul... Subs are sent to hunt. CENTPAC: Heavy recon of Mili and Makin.... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 15, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Kirakira at 116,141 very important intel Japanese Ships SS I-168 Allied Ships DD McCall CA Canberra CA Chicago CL Nashville CL Phoenix DD Ralph Talbot DD Mugford DD Woodworth DD Aaron Ward DD Stuart DD Tucker DD Cassin Here starts the air battle for the hex 52,30 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 62 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7 Allied aircraft Hurricane I Trop x 9 Hurricane IIc Trop x 14 P-39D Airacobra x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Army, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 45 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 14 P-39D Airacobra x 8 P-40E Warhawk x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Army, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 32 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 14 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Army, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 31 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 10 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 94th Coast AA Regiment, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 85 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 26 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 12 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 5 P-40E Warhawk x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 55th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft A-29A Hudson x 5 P-43A-1 Lancer x 5 SB-III x 15 Blenheim IV x 9 A-29 Hudson x 15 P-400 Airacobra x 13 Allied aircraft losses SB-III: 2 damaged SB-III: 1 destroyed by flak Blenheim IV: 5 damaged A-29 Hudson: 1 damaged A-29 Hudson: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese ground losses: 29 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 36th Division, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 12 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1 Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 11 Hudson IIIa x 12 Hurricane I Trop x 3 Wellington Ic x 2 B-25C Mitchell x 8 B-26 Marauder x 12 P-39D Airacobra x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 11 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 84 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Army, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 6 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 6 Hurricane IIc Trop x 4 P-40E Warhawk x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 14 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40E Warhawk x 5 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Allied aircraft Wellington Ic x 6 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft Hudson IIIa x 8 Allied aircraft losses Hudson IIIa: 4 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Allied aircraft B-18A Bolo x 12 B-25C Mitchell x 8 Allied aircraft losses B-18A Bolo: 1 damaged B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed by flak B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 21st Army, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft B-26B Marauder x 13 Allied aircraft losses B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 51 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 51st Air Defense AA Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft A-20A1 Havoc x 10 Allied aircraft losses A-20A1 Havoc: 8 damaged A-20A1 Havoc: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 2nd Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 255th Armoured Brigade, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 12 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 21 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIc x 4 Hurricane I Trop x 3 P-39D Airacobra x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 73rd Motorised Brigade, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 29 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 28 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIc x 1 Hurricane I Trop x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 255th Armoured Brigade, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 27 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 20 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8 Japanese aircraft losses G3M3 Nell: 4 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 27 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 15000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 73rd Motorised Brigade, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 33 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 20 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 33 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 75th IAC Regiment, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 100 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 19 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 48 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 36 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 31 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 59 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8 Ki-48-IIa Lily x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 255th Armoured Brigade, at 52,30 , near Ranchi Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 52,30 (near Ranchi) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 26023 troops, 239 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 1273 Defending force 20944 troops, 272 guns, 879 vehicles, Assault Value = 857 Japanese adjusted assault: 606 Allied adjusted defense: 498 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 2567 casualties reported Squads: 21 destroyed, 405 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 45 disabled Engineers: 8 destroyed, 31 disabled Guns lost 24 (2 destroyed, 22 disabled) Vehicles lost 15 (3 destroyed, 12 disabled) Allied ground losses: 740 casualties reported Squads: 41 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 47 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 29 (9 destroyed, 20 disabled) Vehicles lost 86 (7 destroyed, 79 disabled) Assaulting units: 8th Division 36th Division 19th Ind Engineer Regiment 33rd Division 2nd Mortar Battalion 22nd Ind.AA Gun Co 23rd Fld AA Gun Co 2nd Air Defense AA Regiment 2nd Army 36th Field AA Battalion Defending units: 50th Tank Brigade 73rd Motorised Brigade 267th Armoured Brigade 255th Armoured Brigade 75th IAC Regiment 26th Indian Division 94th Coast AA Regiment 1st USMC AA Battalion The 36th ID is trashed and is moving back, but the 8th didn't participate to the combats and is ready to fight. the 33rd ID is in perfect shape, with 99/100 and only 10 fatigue, 9 distr... another shock attack may do the trick. The 5th ID is reaching the fields. In two days will be on joining this battle.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/14/2014 3:56:09 PM)
Eastern India [image]local://upfiles/37890/AE71BEA8E232438AAA67EF5AD0F128D8.jpg[/image]

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/14/2014 4:03:16 PM)
The air war is going pretty well, considering we're playing with PDU OFF. The Oscar IIb is doing fine, despite its losses are always high. Despite being very fragile, I am discovering that it is a very versatile plane. Easy to repair, easy to maintain. I need to love it cause I cannot really do without it. Luckly The KI-44 IIb is now entering into full production and I am being able to put into the forge 2 more sentais equipped with modern fighters. The KI-61 Ia still has to see its baptism of fire, but I hope to use it only in combo with the excellent KI-45a to protect rear area bases. KI-45c will also enter into production in November. Plan is to use it in combination with the KI-45a that will be kept in production anyway.

Yaab -> RE: Indian fightings (10/14/2014 8:53:28 PM)
Agreed on the Oscars. I have just played 16 turns of Andaman scenario (October 1943) against AI trying to stem 4Es from pulverising the airfield at Port Blair. Oscars were crucial in defending Port Blair. Why? While Nicks give you instant 4E kills, they are also maintenance hogs after the fight. Their 36 durability and service rating of 2 make for some really long repairs. On the other hand, Oscars almost never shoot 4Es, but damage them a lot, and are themselves ready to fly on the next day. Here is my idea against 4Es: -maximise the number of aircraft with CL weapons. Obviously, at this point of the war, it means a mix of Nicks and Oscars. -enable drop-tanks for both of them. -double the aviation support at the base so the Nicks can be repaired faster. -watch combat reports. Once the damage accrues on 4Es and the damage threshold is achieved, the bombers will withdraw from combat. I guess you get more shooting passes at 4Es once you have drop-tanks enabled.

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/14/2014 9:54:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab Agreed on the Oscars. I have just played 16 turns of Andaman scenario (October 1943) against AI trying to stem 4Es from pulverising the airfield at Port Blair. Oscars were crucial in defending Port Blair. Why? While Nicks give you instant 4E kills, they are also maintenance hogs after the fight. Their 36 durability and service rating of 2 make for some really long repairs. On the other hand, Oscars almost never shoot 4Es, but damage them a lot, and are themselves ready to fly on the next day. Here is my idea against 4Es: -maximise the number of aircraft with CL weapons. Obviously, at this point of the war, it means a mix of Nicks and Oscars. -enable drop-tanks for both of them. -double the aviation support at the base so the Nicks can be repaired faster. -watch combat reports. Once the damage accrues on 4Es and the damage threshold is achieved, the bombers will withdraw from combat. I guess you get more shooting passes at 4Es once you have drop-tanks enabled. - Drop tank will produce more shooting passes ??? It is a very new information for me. Are you sure ? I do not see any logic explanation for such behavior. - Japan player cannot afford to use drop tanks for CAP. It will increase a lot supplies consumption.

koniu -> RE: Indian fightings (10/15/2014 4:43:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab Agreed on the Oscars. I have just played 16 turns of Andaman scenario (October 1943) against AI trying to stem 4Es from pulverising the airfield at Port Blair. Oscars were crucial in defending Port Blair. Why? While Nicks give you instant 4E kills, they are also maintenance hogs after the fight. Their 36 durability and service rating of 2 make for some really long repairs. On the other hand, Oscars almost never shoot 4Es, but damage them a lot, and are themselves ready to fly on the next day. Here is my idea against 4Es: -maximise the number of aircraft with CL weapons. Obviously, at this point of the war, it means a mix of Nicks and Oscars. -enable drop-tanks for both of them. -double the aviation support at the base so the Nicks can be repaired faster. -watch combat reports. Once the damage accrues on 4Es and the damage threshold is achieved, the bombers will withdraw from combat. I guess you get more shooting passes at 4Es once you have drop-tanks enabled. - Drop tank will produce more shooting passes ??? It is a very new information for me. Are you sure ? I do not see any logic explanation for such behavior. - Japan player cannot afford to use drop tanks for CAP. It will increase a lot supplies consumption. +1 It was confirmed many times that drop tanks have no impact on combat capabilities of plane or on time plane stays over target. Plane with or without drop tanks will stay in air the same time. He will only use double supplies with tanks. Drop tanks only impact range of plane (on map)

leehunt27@bloomberg.net -> RE: Indian fightings (10/15/2014 7:30:25 PM)
thanks for the confirm on the drop tanks

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 7:16:23 AM)
Oct 16-17, 1942 INDIA: The allies reinforced even more their position beyond the river and I decided to call off the attack. The 2nd Army marched back unmolested, positioning on the wooded hex NE of Ranchi. Very few air attacks by the allied bomber force. Unconclusive, at best. Ranchi AF is operative again and 200 fighters have been moved there supporting Patna and the army's position between the two cities (the usual combination of A6M5, KI-43 IIb and KI-44 IIa). Allied armour and divisions are also conquering the empty spaces NW of Madras. These days of breath let me re-organize my air force in India. I think it is now very well balanced and I hope to be able to stand the enemy attacks. CHINA: Finally some good news from Chikkiang. After several days of air attacks (where we had to tangle, successfully, with P-38s and F4F on LRCAP from Chungking), the 13th Army managed to get a 2-1. Forts down to 0 and now the base should follow within the next week or so. The attack of the next day didn't achieve anything...need to make my distrupted and fatigued units rest for a couple of days...but the fate of Chikkiang is written now. SOPAC: Lots of action here. The allies arrived with a mighty fleet. Several Cruisers, PTs and a huge amphib TF carrying the 32th Division...that landed at Tulagi! A whole division for a unoccupied base? Kinda of an overkill here... My subs (13 of them) didn't score a single hit and 3 of them got damaged and need to RtB for repairs. 110 Netties took off from Torokina. I had set 90 fighters as escort...but only 27 of them took off... Strangely enough ONLY 1 CV was present in the allied amphib fleet... the Wasp... Not a single hit was scored. Flak and a good CAP cover did the job pretty well, downing 80 of my planes (27 KIA and 27 WIA). Japan didn't risk its ships. I should have, but thought there were many more carriers, while I can now confirm that only the Wasp is present in SOPAC (or at least he is using just that single CV in this theatre). ...which made me think: why should Erik risk a single CV in 1942? Why not massing the whole allied DS? The only reason I see is to lure me where he's not aiming at and catch me with my pants down somewhere else. Ok, but where? Hypotesis? Kuriles, DEI or Oz I guess. Following these thoughts, I've accelerated the reinforcement of the Kuriles. A mixed Bde is moving from Tokyo to Paramushiro, along with an air HQ and another Bde for Shimushiri Jiima. 110 Oscar IIb and 70 Netties are being transferred to Hokkaido, along with a SAG. The KB1 will re-position itself near Cocos Island and will be joined by the rest of the KB. The Mini KB will operate in SOPAC/CENTPAC area. 2 BBs, 2 CAs, 4 CLs and 30 DDs are trasnfering from Sosarbaja to Port Hedland. 3 Netties sentais and 3 fighter sentais are moved back to Perth, while 4 engineers units and a division are prepping the defensive positions on the eastern coast of NG. I am pretty sure this in SOPAC is a minor allied operation, even if he's using good assets, this is not the whole lot. The hammer is still to fall

veji1 -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 7:31:44 AM)
He is doing it right (except for the extra risk with the CV) : As the allies you have to put pressure in Sopac because either you can get a headstart at a limited cost if the japanese don't pay much attention to it, or you force them to commit, and they are losing men, planes and ships for a secondary objective. A balanced commitment in SOPAC is a win win for the allies.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 7:40:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veji1 He is doing it right (except for the extra risk with the CV) : As the allies you have to put pressure in Sopac because either you can get a headstart at a limited cost if the japanese don't pay much attention to it, or you force them to commit, and they are losing men, planes and ships for a secondary objective. A balanced commitment in SOPAC is a win win for the allies. Very true. That's why my strategy is simply to delay them as much as possible, but without risking too much in that theatre. However, the real question remains: where is he really aiming at? To be honest I'd like him to invest more here...and my strategy since the beginning was to lure him towards a central pacific strategy. I think he's getting interested in the Marshalls and he will advance there in the next months/weeks... but if he's CVs aren't present in CENTPAC (and I have not a single clue that he has them there) he must be planning for something else. When does the winter start again?

witpqs -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 7:56:54 AM)
Thanks for stopping by, GJ! [:)]

veji1 -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 8:59:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: veji1 He is doing it right (except for the extra risk with the CV) : As the allies you have to put pressure in Sopac because either you can get a headstart at a limited cost if the japanese don't pay much attention to it, or you force them to commit, and they are losing men, planes and ships for a secondary objective. A balanced commitment in SOPAC is a win win for the allies. Very true. That's why my strategy is simply to delay them as much as possible, but without risking too much in that theatre. However, the real question remains: where is he really aiming at? To be honest I'd like him to invest more here...and my strategy since the beginning was to lure him towards a central pacific strategy. I think he's getting interested in the Marshalls and he will advance there in the next months/weeks... but if he's CVs aren't present in CENTPAC (and I have not a single clue that he has them there) he must be planning for something else. When does the winter start again? I am not sure your strategy is going to work because as the allies, CENTPAC remains a very risky proposition as long as the KB is strong and healthy. Why risk going atoll assaulting, putting your amphib fleet, troops and flattops at risk as long as the KB remains very dangerous ? better to go for more coastal operations where LBA can help you out. This is where WITPAE emulates (in a way) real life quite well : The Allies went for CentPAC because the KB was no more than a marginal threat, because of Midway, because of the quantity and quality (radar, vectoring, comm, etc...) the US fleet had, etc... So to me, Obvert would be crazy to go for CENTPAC as long as the KB isn't either dented or at a numerical disadvantage.

pontiouspilot -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 5:44:25 PM)
I read both AARs with great interest so any comments will be very general and bland, although maybe that's my intellectual level in any case!! BEWARE of your Indian success!! You may talk yourself into a much bigger trap than any you might have pulled off at Patna. Even with your Indian air successes are you not at the point in the games where 1 for 2 losses still win the attrition war if the Allies?? I confess that I have only played AI past mid-'42 and I always assumed that 1-1 air losses in '42 wonderful for Allies but that even 1-2 were acceptable. Is this inaccurate in a longer haul against a good real player?

Sangeli -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 8:52:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy ...which made me think: why should Erik risk a single CV in 1942? Why not massing the whole allied DS? The only reason I see is to lure me where he's not aiming at and catch me with my pants down somewhere else. Ok, but where? Probably because Erik has no CVEs ready yet and saw an opportunity to move in the SoPac. However, he probably didn't know where the KB was and was unwilling to put his whole CV fleet at risk. Losing one CV won't really change too much in the long run but far too often we have seen battles around this time of the full KB vs. Allied DS go very very badly for the Allies and ruin the prospects of 1943 invasions. But part of this strategy could tie into a diversion as well; had you committed the KB here he could have launched something much larger somewhere else at relatively low risk and only lose one CV. Personally I would not have launched an attack like this until I could have had CVEs to replace that covering CV but I guess Erik just didn't have the patience for that. And frankly that lack of patience explains the rationale behind many AFB ops in 1942. It's very frustrating to have all the troops fully prepped for invasions just sitting in bases so many AFBs go ahead with OPs on the hope it will "probably" turn out all right. The one calculation they typically fail to make is that the cost of a failed operation is usually much much higher than the gain of a successful operation.

MrKane -> RE: Indian fightings (10/16/2014 9:03:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sangeli quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy ...which made me think: why should Erik risk a single CV in 1942? Why not massing the whole allied DS? The only reason I see is to lure me where he's not aiming at and catch me with my pants down somewhere else. Ok, but where? Probably because Erik has no CVEs ready yet and saw an opportunity to move in the SoPac. However, he probably didn't know where the KB was and was unwilling to put his whole CV fleet at risk. Losing one CV won't really change too much in the long run but far too often we have seen battles around this time of the full KB vs. Allied DS go very very badly for the Allies and ruin the prospects of 1943 invasions. But part of this strategy could tie into a diversion as well; had you committed the KB here he could have launched something much larger somewhere else at relatively low risk and only lose one CV. Personally I would not have launched an attack like this until I could have had CVEs to replace that covering CV but I guess Erik just didn't have the patience for that. And frankly that lack of patience explains the rationale behind many AFB ops in 1942. It's very frustrating to have all the troops fully prepped for invasions just sitting in bases so many AFBs go ahead with OPs on the hope it will "probably" turn out all right. The one calculation they typically fail to make is that the cost of a failed operation is usually much much higher than the gain of a successful operation. I am playing Allies vs MrBlizzard right now with HR: max 500 ac/hex. We just have excellent carriers clash, both sides took losses, now real winner. And it is just 10/42, my opponent have already A6M5 on board and I am still using F4F-3/4. I am starting to like this HR.

GreyJoy -> RE: Indian fightings (10/17/2014 6:10:41 AM)
Just a quick update guys (later i hope to be able to make a more comprehensive report): Oct 20, 1942 CHIKKIANG falls! BANZAI! this is really critical for the chinese theatre. Now the front can be on the move again and we've crossed the river and we are out of that damned bottleneck! The air bombings made the difference and even if Erik's F4F and P-38s did interfere more often than what i had hoped, our fighters managed to keep them off enough. Now on towards Kweyang! Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 31855 troops, 454 guns, 975 vehicles, Assault Value = 1045 Defending force 47521 troops, 188 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1189 Japanese adjusted assault: 1113 Allied adjusted defense: 343 Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Chihkiang !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 470 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 48 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Units pursuing 1 Allied ground losses: 10904 casualties reported Squads: 332 destroyed, 109 disabled Non Combat: 156 destroyed, 40 disabled Engineers: 101 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 28 (13 destroyed, 15 disabled) Units retreated 5 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 40th Division 9th Tank Regiment 6th Division 15th Tank Regiment 12th Tank Regiment 17th Tank Regiment 8th Ind Engineer Regiment 19th Tank Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 18th Tank Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 11th Tank Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 13th Army 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 68th Chinese Corps 26th Chinese Corps 21st Chinese Corps 79th Chinese Corps 92nd Chinese Corps In India a massive battle is approaching... stay tuned

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