RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)

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ny59giants -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 12:08:24 PM)
Western Australia - Don't repeat my mistake and land only at Esperance. [:-] Land there and at Albany with strength and make sure you bring plenty of AA units to go with your spearheads. You should be able to march significant restricted Aussie units across the desert from Ceduna and Port Augusta to get close to the Esperance/Kalgoorlie area before your landings.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 12:27:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Western Australia - Don't repeat my mistake and land only at Esperance. [:-] Land there and at Albany with strength and make sure you bring plenty of AA units to go with your spearheads. You should be able to march significant restricted Aussie units across the desert from Ceduna and Port Augusta to get close to the Esperance/Kalgoorlie area before your landings. I remember that! The plan is for both but also then to bring stuff around to Geraldton and Carnarvon. I haven't yet decided on this though. I don't think I'll have to walk much across. I'd like to land what I need and build those bases, let him sweat a bit, before doing anything else. Depends though on if the KB gets involved.

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 3:13:39 PM)
I'd be interested in seeing screenshots/(known) force dispositions in SW Australia, and can compare to my action with Bullwinkle if you like.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 6:15:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna I'd be interested in seeing screenshots/(known) force dispositions in SW Australia, and can compare to my action with Bullwinkle if you like. Here are my SIGINT notes, but things are changing fast down there as Nick is pulling some things back to Port Hedland for sure (including the Imperial Guards Division and the 56th division). He's probably using SIGINT deception sending the TF toward some other waypoint with a destination of Port Hedland. If it's India, wow, there is a lot of the free IJA there now. I'd sure like to land in Ceylon and see what happens! But back to OZ, Esperance and Albany look ripe for the taking and even Perth may be poorly defended on the ground. I bet he's just looking to hit an invasion and not really stick around after that. I haven't seen the majority of the IJN in a while, and a lot of CAs could be lurking around Perth or Albany, waiting, with a horde of attack planes at Perth in it's level 9 field. Wish I could get some recon there, but not a chance for that right now. SW OZ PERTH 4th RF Gun Battalion is located at Perth(49,147). 09_19_42 6th RF Gun Battalion is located at Perth(49,147). 09_28_42 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion is located at Perth(49,147). 09_19_42 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion is located at Perth(49,147). 06_23_42 16th Army is located at Perth(49,147). 10_03_42 Imperial Guards Division is located at Perth(49,147). 07_12_42 16/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Kyushu Cargo class xAK moving to Perth. 10_08_42 8/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Ansyu-C Cargo class xAK moving to Perth. 10_08_42 4th Air Division is located at Perth(49,147). 10_16_42 8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion is located at Perth(49,147). 4th Division is located at Perth(49,147). ?? 2nd Tank Regiment is located at Perth(49,147). 09_30_42 1/2nd Tank Regiment is loaded on xAK Yuri Maru at Perth (49,147). 10_10_42 56th Division is located at Perth(49,147). 10_02_42 32/56th Division is located at Perth(49,147). 10_10_42 32/56th Division is located at Perth(49,147). 10_21_42 1st JAAF Base Force is located at Perth(49,147). 10_13_42 KALGOORLIE 56th Division is located at Kalgoorlie(56,147). 08_23_42 later to Perth, and loading to leave 2nd Tank Regiment is located at Kalgoorlie(56,147). 09_02_42 later to Perth, and loading to leave 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment is located at Kalgoorlie(56,147). 09_13_42 ESPERANCE 5th Amphibious Brigade is located at Esperance(56,153). 06_19_42 13th JAAF Base Force is located at Esperance(56,153). 06_24_42 GERALDTON 6th Ship Engineer Regiment is located at Geraldton(49,141). 09_01_42 Kure 3rd SNLF is located at Geraldton(49,141). 09_19_42 10th JAAF Base Force is located at Geraldton(49,141). 09_21_42 EXMOUTH 20th JAAF AF Bn is located at Exmouth(50,129). 09_06_42 PORT HEDLAND 1st Ind Engineer Regiment is located at Port Hedland(57,129). 09_10_42 15/4th Division is loaded on a Aden Cargo class xAK moving to Port Hedland. 9_26_42 13/56th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAP moving to Port Hedland. 10_5_42 3/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on xAK Italy Maru moving to Port Hedland. 10_13_42 BROOME LSD Shinshu Maru is moving to Broome (62,127). 10_21_42 DALY WATERS 26th Division is located at Daly Waters(76,131). 07_11_42 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment is located at Daly Waters(76,131). 10_05_42 8th Tank Regiment is located at Daly Waters(76,131). 10_10_42 39th Field AA Battalion is located at Daly Waters(76,131). 10_13_42 CARNARVON (nothing) SYDNEY Southeast Area Fleet is planning for an attack on Sydney. (!!!) 09_19_42 [:D] [image]local://upfiles/37283/8AF90A0378394CCB90758689253373B5.jpg[/image]

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 6:39:41 PM)
Interesting he built Perth's shipyard that much. A good reason? Dunno. But he's going to leave you a nice asset by and by.

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 6:40:48 PM)
If you can sneak into Kalgoorlie, the mega-railroad should keep you in supply and you can establish a foothold there if Perth is the only AF of note that you need to worry about. If that's the case, then he'll need to commit his navy if you make any noise on the oceans here. How are his eyes in the area? Would you be able to scout and protect an invasion at Albany/Esperance? Such a move would give you even more freedom in CENTPAC. Dunno where your subs are, but if you were going to do that, you'd probably want a few here... I made a mistake against Bullwinkle in letting him have Kalgoorlie back too early. I didn't see his troops coming in or I wouldn't have left it behind, and it had the effect of putting a lot of pressure on my retreat from the area. My not holding Kalgoorlie freed him up from needing to rely on ships to liberate the area. If GJ has abandoned K or left it lightly defended, you should walk right in and take it. I'd suggest marching a unit up pretty close before hitting the base with recon, so as to "surprise" him. If you have Av Supp and aircraft on standby at Port Augusta, you should be able to establish a strongpoint. I would also consider strat bombing "your own" territory here, if you can stomach it. Think of it as ex post facto sabotage. I think I'm using that phrase correctly... Also has the advantage of denying him points should he choose to strat bomb you after you retake it.

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 6:41:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 Interesting he built Perth's shipyard that much. A good reason? Dunno. But he's going to leave you a nice asset by and by. My guess is it's a size 12 for CAs.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 7:53:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 Interesting he built Perth's shipyard that much. A good reason? Dunno. But he's going to leave you a nice asset by and by. True. Didn't notice that. Very nice!

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 7:56:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna If you can sneak into Kalgoorlie, the mega-railroad should keep you in supply and you can establish a foothold there if Perth is the only AF of note that you need to worry about. If that's the case, then he'll need to commit his navy if you make any noise on the oceans here. How are his eyes in the area? Would you be able to scout and protect an invasion at Albany/Esperance? Such a move would give you even more freedom in CENTPAC. Dunno where your subs are, but if you were going to do that, you'd probably want a few here... I made a mistake against Bullwinkle in letting him have Kalgoorlie back too early. I didn't see his troops coming in or I wouldn't have left it behind, and it had the effect of putting a lot of pressure on my retreat from the area. My not holding Kalgoorlie freed him up from needing to rely on ships to liberate the area. If GJ has abandoned K or left it lightly defended, you should walk right in and take it. I'd suggest marching a unit up pretty close before hitting the base with recon, so as to "surprise" him. If you have Av Supp and aircraft on standby at Port Augusta, you should be able to establish a strongpoint. I would also consider strat bombing "your own" territory here, if you can stomach it. Think of it as ex post facto sabotage. I think I'm using that phrase correctly... Also has the advantage of denying him points should he choose to strat bomb you after you retake it. Kalgoorlie is a size 4, and Geraldton is a size 5. Albany is a 1, and Esperance is a 2. Just got another note to sat the 5th Amphibious Brigade is heading out from Perth to Broome. I'm thinking there's not much left over here. I'm going to do some naval recon, using old DDs and DMS to bombard Esperance and Albany. If they'e empty, well, that will make this a lot easier. I'll start sending the USN that direction soon.

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 10:31:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna If you can sneak into Kalgoorlie, the mega-railroad should keep you in supply and you can establish a foothold there if Perth is the only AF of note that you need to worry about. If that's the case, then he'll need to commit his navy if you make any noise on the oceans here. How are his eyes in the area? Would you be able to scout and protect an invasion at Albany/Esperance? Such a move would give you even more freedom in CENTPAC. Dunno where your subs are, but if you were going to do that, you'd probably want a few here... I made a mistake against Bullwinkle in letting him have Kalgoorlie back too early. I didn't see his troops coming in or I wouldn't have left it behind, and it had the effect of putting a lot of pressure on my retreat from the area. My not holding Kalgoorlie freed him up from needing to rely on ships to liberate the area. If GJ has abandoned K or left it lightly defended, you should walk right in and take it. I'd suggest marching a unit up pretty close before hitting the base with recon, so as to "surprise" him. If you have Av Supp and aircraft on standby at Port Augusta, you should be able to establish a strongpoint. I would also consider strat bombing "your own" territory here, if you can stomach it. Think of it as ex post facto sabotage. I think I'm using that phrase correctly... Also has the advantage of denying him points should he choose to strat bomb you after you retake it. Kalgoorlie is a size 4, and Geraldton is a size 5. Albany is a 1, and Esperance is a 2. Just got another note to sat the 5th Amphibious Brigade is heading out from Perth to Broome. I'm thinking there's not much left over here. I'm going to do some naval recon, using old DDs and DMS to bombard Esperance and Albany. If they'e empty, well, that will make this a lot easier. I'll start sending the USN that direction soon. No chance of waiting for the Navy PB4Y recon planes? Recon planes may not get noticed, but a bombardment definitely will alert him... What about using an expendable CL with float plane capacity? You could try float plane recon, if you're brave. It won't be super accurate, but should be able to tell you if any LCUs are present. FYI, in stock there are no garrison requirements at any of these potential target bases. Perth may have one.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/20/2014 10:51:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 Interesting he built Perth's shipyard that much. A good reason? Dunno. But he's going to leave you a nice asset by and by. My guess is it's a size 12 for CAs. True, but my point was more you don't do that unless you plan to be there long enough to fix CAs.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/21/2014 6:33:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna If you can sneak into Kalgoorlie, the mega-railroad should keep you in supply and you can establish a foothold there if Perth is the only AF of note that you need to worry about. If that's the case, then he'll need to commit his navy if you make any noise on the oceans here. How are his eyes in the area? Would you be able to scout and protect an invasion at Albany/Esperance? Such a move would give you even more freedom in CENTPAC. Dunno where your subs are, but if you were going to do that, you'd probably want a few here... I made a mistake against Bullwinkle in letting him have Kalgoorlie back too early. I didn't see his troops coming in or I wouldn't have left it behind, and it had the effect of putting a lot of pressure on my retreat from the area. My not holding Kalgoorlie freed him up from needing to rely on ships to liberate the area. If GJ has abandoned K or left it lightly defended, you should walk right in and take it. I'd suggest marching a unit up pretty close before hitting the base with recon, so as to "surprise" him. If you have Av Supp and aircraft on standby at Port Augusta, you should be able to establish a strongpoint. I would also consider strat bombing "your own" territory here, if you can stomach it. Think of it as ex post facto sabotage. I think I'm using that phrase correctly... Also has the advantage of denying him points should he choose to strat bomb you after you retake it. Kalgoorlie is a size 4, and Geraldton is a size 5. Albany is a 1, and Esperance is a 2. Just got another note to sat the 5th Amphibious Brigade is heading out from Perth to Broome. I'm thinking there's not much left over here. I'm going to do some naval recon, using old DDs and DMS to bombard Esperance and Albany. If they'e empty, well, that will make this a lot easier. I'll start sending the USN that direction soon. No chance of waiting for the Navy PB4Y recon planes? Recon planes may not get noticed, but a bombardment definitely will alert him... What about using an expendable CL with float plane capacity? You could try float plane recon, if you're brave. It won't be super accurate, but should be able to tell you if any LCUs are present. FYI, in stock there are no garrison requirements at any of these potential target bases. Perth may have one. I haven't trained my PBY pilots, and I haven't found non-recon planes to do such a good job, but I'l give it a shot. I have a lot of those in So Pac right now. I'll fly one over and put some of the Wildcat recon pilots into it to see if they can find something. The other benefit of naval bombardment is to see what is flying, where I get picked up, etc. I don't mind if he thinks I'm heading that way now, because I'm not quite yet. I've been inconsistent in how I follow up things like bombardments so he can't get a read on what my patterns are. And, well, I just don't have many patterns, but those i see myself creating I try to then break up to decrease his 'read' on my actions. Interestingly, I haven't gotten a lot of 'prepping for' messages this game, but a lot of troop and ship movement. He could even be letting me in to then land behind me, but it doesn't seem there are enough available troops to do that considering what I can bring.

JeffroK -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/21/2014 6:53:13 AM)
How serious is GJ in defending the SW corner?? Can you get some forces out along both the rail and Nullabor track and threaten Kalgoorlie and Noreseman (where the E-W road intersects the N-S road/rail)He may rail in forces once your Invasion is spotted, these alternate attacks either pick up cheap territory or block his reaction. I would however be wary about committing too much of a force into this "backwater" it isnt vital to your needs nor fatal to the empire's.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/21/2014 9:18:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffK How serious is GJ in defending the SW corner?? Can you get some forces out along both the rail and Nullabor track and threaten Kalgoorlie and Noreseman (where the E-W road intersects the N-S road/rail)He may rail in forces once your Invasion is spotted, these alternate attacks either pick up cheap territory or block his reaction. I would however be wary about committing too much of a force into this "backwater" it isnt vital to your needs nor fatal to the empire's. As shown above he appears to be moving troops out but I've not gotten messages to indicate anything is coming in to replace them. So the infantry units are leaving at least. Maybe he'll sacrifice base forces, engineers and an air HQ to see if he can hit an invasion force, and maybe the KB or a mini-kB is hanging out nearby. Walking anywhere will take months, and I'd rather try to land with some force over here when the time is right. I can hopefully get a feeling for his naval and air strength through sub recon and small bombardments, maybe some recon. I just realized that from Ceduna it's 16 to Esperance and 19 to Kalgoorlie, so I don't need PBYs or to waste surface vessels yet. I have some F-4E still in So Pac and they can head over to have a look.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/21/2014 10:07:12 AM)
Oct 22 - 24, 1942 SUBS: No more sightings out in the IO of the KB and company. INDIA: I bombarded near Patna with my 3376AV army to find that the Japanese have only 2,845AV here. The bombardment though injured a lot more of our stuff than theirs. (Only troop numbers included below due to a sync issue). I contemplated trying a DA here but decided to try and move my reserve up the road to Ranchi to see how he reacts and try to get that in better defensive territory, but he's also now showing movement out of the main stack back that way, which is probably a bluff, but I can't yet be sure. He's got six divisions in the main hex at 53,30 (near Patna) and another 3-4 on the Ranchi road. CENT PAC: A bombardment of Makin goes well. Another will move in tomorrow night. Troops are still a few weeks away. I'll pick up intensity here and let it fall several times before actually landing. SO PAC: Tulagi has made an airfield! I'm now sending in fuel and supply, the PTs in the area are based here, and 300 mines are moving in. I'm slowly working on troops at Lunga with B-25s, and keeping the fields shut with a few B-17Es. I'm starting to see indications of more naval units again near Rabaul. We'll see if he reacts here. In the next few weeks I'll start getting a hold of nearby bases like 1,000 ships Bay, auki and getting engineers to Tassafronga. CHINA: He's working hard on Changhsa with 300+ bombers to kill supply. It's working. We're shooting but not hitting much with the Chinese base force AA. I'll turn them to reserve now to hopefully save supply. The IJA is marching as expected both SW and NW. It also looks like he may be moving to cross the river from Chinkhiang into the x3 terrain where I have 4 Corps of 1050AV digging in with 1 fort currently. I can't imagine this will go well for the IJA, but of course I could be wrong. Either way we now have several potential new front one hexes that he can use to bombard, thus expending our supply (but also using his). OZ: Starting to get things in motion to make a move toward the SW. I've got invasion shipping, lots of prepped troops, a few CV/CVE and lots of CA/CL/DD. I might not need it though, as it appears through SIGINT that Esperance, and now Kalgoorlie have been nearly abandoned. I'll have to get confirmation, but it could be possible to get one base and paradrop Kalgoorlie, then rail everything else forward. SIGINT: More movements in OZ. Note that the 26th division is hanging on in Daly Waters. This seems to be the first sighting of the 10th Special Base Force on Horn Island, another indicate that he's preparing a fortress there and even more reason to give it a pass. 32/56th Division is located at Perth(49,147). LSD Shinshu Maru is moving to Broome (62,127). 26th Division is located at Daly Waters(76,131). 10th Special Base Force is located at Horn Island(91,128). 4th RF Gun Battalion is located at Port Hedland(57,129). 4th Air Division is located at Perth(49,147). 32/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Japanese CM moving to Broome. 38/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on xAK Midori Maru moving to Broome. 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment is located at Port Hedland(57,129). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 23, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 53,30 (near Patna) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 77284 troops, 1106 guns, 1534 vehicles, Assault Value = 3376 Defending force 101289 troops, 1056 guns, 709 vehicles, Assault Value = 2845 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 24, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125 Allied Ships CA Louisville CA Northampton DD Worden DD Downes DD Lang DD Wilson DD Henley Japanese ground losses: 246 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Port hits 5 Port supply hits 5 SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Louisville CA Louisville firing at 52nd Naval Guard Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Salem (32,39) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 78 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied adjusted assault: 3 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Salem !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Assaulting units: 2/7 Commando Bn /1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/EF0C3BD986654C3EAC6A6B26CFD228E3.jpg[/image] Nice to start getting some Spits! These will help if I do get to SW OZ.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/21/2014 4:04:34 PM)
Oct 25 - 28, 1942 SUBS: Lots of activity with ASW in the straits of Malaya now. Still need to have a presence here though in case Kaga has not made it through yet, or even if the KB wants to come this way. INDIA: We've been doing the tango around 53,30 for a few weeks now, trading bombing runs and fighter sweeps, digging in and showing maneuver, feints and actual reinforcements. I've just received info from recon that Warangal, Hyderabad and Bezwada have been vacated. I am not trusting of this at all, even with 9/10 on Bezwada and Warangal. So... I checked my pool of Aussie paratroops, which is quite good, and I'm going to get planes in place to fly one unit in three parts to each of these bases as fighting recon. It could go terribly wrong, but if so, I'll at least get good info on force placements currently. I also need to know if this stuff has been moved and will reinforce the Patna/Ranchi area. I'm thinking the big units have been moved since he's got at least 10 divisions in that area and at least a few more at Madras, (plus the ones in OZ, which is at least 3 more. How many are there is Scen 30?)[&:] I'm going to have to start doing some real accounting. Get serious about this. CENT PAC: Another bombardment goes in. The troops at Makin have to be hurting now and I know out here even disablements don't heal quickly. Troops for Mili and Makin are landing at Christmas Island and will be transferred to invasion quality amphibs. Two BBs will participate for the first time in the war here if it continues to look like the coast is clear. I'll only use LBA cover from Tarawa, so I may not be able to do Mili if there are bombers in the Marshalls I can spot. He did just move some into Nauru, so he's obviously not excited about things like my raid on the 28th with DMS Zane and Dempsey. They sank 2-3 MTBs and made it out just fine. In good moonlight I've found PT/MTB don't stand a chance against DD/DMS/E. I'll keep doing this but have to wait until a plucky IJN SCTF moves out of the way. It was spotted near Ontong Java but might be going for Tulagi, Ndeni or something in Cent Pac. We'll see. SO PAC: Supply slips into Tulagi and Kirakira easily, as do the mines. Each base is a bit more p r i c k l y now with PTs and mines, plus the surrounding subs. I'll still refrain from setting up shop with lots of air groups at Tulagi until some other bases around it are also in Allied hands. Should be in a few weeks. In the meantime the ASW crews go on extra between Suva and Ndeni where at least 4-5 IJN subs are operating. The xAKLs do the bulk of the hauling, PBYs both search and throw troops around the area. The USN and RAN hang out and wait for opportunities. CHINA: Now bombardments are happening all over the place. One on the South side of Kweiyang has the tank army that broke through over the river that's been doing nothing since we brought the air force into China. Another on the North side is the new block from the Chikhiang troops. Now the IJA is moving up the road behind Chikhiang and seems still to want to cross the river next to it. Is this a feint? No matter. Troops are there waiting. OZ: Some recon starts flying over. Got another few interesting messages. SIGINT: This is just another indication the SW OZ adventure is being transferred back to W OZ. 16th Army is located at Port Hedland(57,129). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 25, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Makin at 136,125 Allied Ships CL St. Louis CL Detroit DD King DD Gilmer DD Clark DD Balch DD Bailey Japanese ground losses: 322 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) Port hits 2 SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CL St. Louis CL St. Louis firing at 71st JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 43 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M3 Nell x 36 G4M1 Betty x 51 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 84 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 72 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 36 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 15000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 3rd Carabiniers Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 72 Ki-21-IIa Sally x 61 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 54 Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 42 Ki-48-IIa Lily x 28 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 55 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Vehicles lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 15000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 53rd Naval Guard Unit, at 114,138 (Lunga) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 19 Beaufighter Ic x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 46 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 28, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships MGB G-4, Shell hits 6, and is sunk MGB G-5, Shell hits 3, and is sunk Allied Ships DMS Zane DMS Dorsey Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 85% moonlight: 12,000 yards Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards Wirtz, P. crosses the 'T' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 11,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-7, Shell hits 1, heavy fires MTB G-3 Allied Ships DMS Zane DMS Dorsey Improved night sighting under 75% moonlight Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 75% moonlight: 12,000 yards Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards DMS Dorsey engages MTB G-3 at 11,000 yards Range closes to 5,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 63rd Chinese Corps, at 78,48 , near Chihkiang Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 40 Allied aircraft P-38F Lightning x 7 P-40K Warhawk x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-38F Lightning: 2 destroyed P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 26 x A6M3 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 73,49 (near Kweiyang) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 780 troops, 78 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 831 Defending force 37901 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1176 Assaulting units: 7th Ind.Tank Brigade 2nd Tank Division 4th Tank Regiment Guards Tank Division 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 23rd Army 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 67th Chinese Corps 34th Chinese Corps 24th Chinese Corps 71st Chinese Corps 21st Group Army 11th Chinese Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My feint invasino seems to have been noticed, but now there is also a pesky sub around here. I'll send all back along the coast and hopefully avoid detection or worse. [image]local://upfiles/37283/D12193E8801D4BDBBAA95FAFB5A0C04F.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 8:30:33 AM)
Oct 29 - 31, 1942 SUBS: Laying some good hits on IJN subs in So Pac. There is a lot of activity between Fiji and Tulagi, but no hits on transports yet. Operating mainly xAKLs here anyway. INDIA: On the 30th we bomb and bombard the troops in 53,30 near Patna, and this goes fairly well. Only half of the 2E flew. I still think bombardments have something weird going on, and Nick's thread in the tech section outlines some of it, as one of my units that wasn't even bombarding was hit by counter fire and got a 'isolated with no supply' message and lost a ton of guns. In spite of all of this I decided to try a DA since we have superior numbers, in a clear hex, with several tough armor units sporting brand new Lee tanks, and plenty of Valentine and Stuart tanks as well. The large majority of the units have acceptable exp now (50-55) with the Brits and Aussies in the 70-80 exp range. Every unit was rested, great morale and no fatigue or disruption. He can't have dug in more than 2 forts here, so we pulled the trigger. Bad idea, apparently. After somewhat even air battles and good strikes on the armies, the Allies get stomped with 3x the losses including 250 destroyed squads and 50+vehicles lost. [&:] Allied armor does not rule. I'm not sure where the Japanese got all of the Panzerfausts, but they manage to wipe out half of a partially filled brigade of Lee tanks and put another one into jeopardy with 2/3 disablements. Is this happening with 47mm AT guns, or are the massive 24-30cm guns in the heavy arty units somehow training in on the tanks? I don't get it. My theory is that the Brit/Indian leaders are simply SOO BAD that it doesn't matter at this point what's being used by the Allied side, it can't compete with 70-80 exp units sporting leaders that are 60-70 exp across the board. Still, you'd think a 1:1 would be possible here in clear territory, and especially since the bombers all got through and put some good damage for the second day in a row on the Japanese. So now the only question is whether Nick will take the risk and push us back. He can, but will he do it? The only positive on the day is that to assemble this army, the IJA pulled out of Hyderabad, Warangal and Bezwada. Our paras took all three with no battles, thus cutting the coastal rail between Calcutta and Madras and taking back some decent industry at Hyderabad. CENT PAC: Our B-25 groups make a decent strike on Mili. The Fortress there loses some guns too which should be good for later. CHINA: Nick is operating about 300 2E bombers and about 200 fighters in China now. It's a lot to take for troops, even dug in good terrain. Hopefully the supply drain will eventually get to him. In this mod I believe that refineries don't make supply, so it seems he should feel this in addition to supporting another big army and air force in India and beginning to use more in So Pac/Cent Pac. The IJA walks around to the North of Chikhiang and attacks one of the hexes along the river. They get a 1:2 but the disablements are higher for the Chinese. This is a tank army, and they do lose 50 disabled vehicles, but who knows if they're all tanks. The movement across the river to the next hex seems to have stopped now. OZ: The first recon goes in at Kalgoorlie. Looks like a base force and a partial recon unit, showing 3 aux planes. Now i'll look at Esperance. SIGINT: This looks like the units moving out of Esperance and a smaller base force moving in. More good news. 6/5th Amphibious Brigade is loaded on a Japanese CM moving to Broome. 15/13th JAAF Base Force is loaded on a Japanese CM moving to Broome. 5/13th JAAF Base Force is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Broome. 16th JNAF AF Unit is located at Esperance(56,153). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 30, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Mili Naval Fortress, at 136,121 (Mili) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 30 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 119 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb Morning Air attack on 55th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft I-15-III x 4 Blenheim IV x 20 Hurricane IIa Trop x 5 Hurricane IIb Trop x 18 Mohawk IV x 9 Wellington Ic x 17 Kittyhawk IA x 7 B-25C Mitchell x 18 B-26 Marauder x 16 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 1 damaged Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak Wellington Ic: 2 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak B-26 Marauder: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 490 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 14 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 55th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft Hudson IIIa x 3 B-26 Marauder x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 154 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 78,49 (near Chihkiang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 9210 troops, 117 guns, 693 vehicles, Assault Value = 492 Defending force 32402 troops, 138 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 821 Japanese adjusted assault: 396 Allied adjusted defense: 625 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 199 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Vehicles lost 50 (1 destroyed, 49 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1074 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 101 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 9th Tank Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 12th Tank Regiment 1st Tank Division 11th Tank Regiment Defending units: 45th Chinese Corps 68th Chinese Corps 74th Chinese Corps 26th Group Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 53,30 (near Patna) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1689 troops, 148 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 3690 Defending force 116518 troops, 1184 guns, 819 vehicles, Assault Value = 3200 Japanese ground losses: 117 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: Guns lost 29 (15 destroyed, 14 disabled) Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled) Assaulting units: 73rd Motorised Brigade 75th IAC Regiment 762nd Tank Battalion 14th Indian Division 19th Indian Division 63rd Indian Brigade 50th Tank Brigade 23rd Indian Division 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment 70th British Division 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 267th Armoured Brigade 7th Australian Division 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 255th Armoured Brigade 22nd (East African) Brigade 3rd Carabiniers Regiment 150th RAC Regiment 20th Indian Division 75th Indian Brigade 26th Indian Division 251st Coast AA Regiment 2/11th Field Regiment 6th Medium Regiment 260th Coast AA Regiment 93rd Coast AA Regiment 2/9th Field Regiment 85th British AT Gun Regiment 1st Indian Light AA Regiment 1st USMC AA Battalion 1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion 26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment Defending units: 22nd Tank Regiment 33rd Division 48th Division 5th Division 21st Division 14th Tank Regiment 22nd Ind Engineer Regiment 55th Division 4th Ind Engineer Regiment 2nd Division 24th Ind Engineer Regiment 1st Division 29th Ind Engineer Regiment 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 15th Air Defense AA Regiment 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd Area Army 9th RF Gun Battalion 51st Air Defense AA Battalion 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 2nd RF Gun Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 54th Field AA Battalion 14th Army 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 6th Air Defense AA Regiment 1st Art.Mortar Regiment 12th Air Defense AA Regiment 41st Air Defense AA Battalion 1st RF Gun Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind.AA Gun Co 21st Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 31, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 53,30 (near Patna) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 110186 troops, 1410 guns, 2286 vehicles, Assault Value = 3684 Defending force 115744 troops, 1182 guns, 819 vehicles, Assault Value = 3162 Allied adjusted assault: 1456 Japanese adjusted defense: 3074 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 4526 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 272 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 191 disabled Engineers: 6 destroyed, 47 disabled Guns lost 155 (24 destroyed, 131 disabled) Vehicles lost 133 (11 destroyed, 122 disabled) Allied ground losses: 11883 casualties reported Squads: 250 destroyed, 798 disabled Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 304 disabled Engineers: 18 destroyed, 106 disabled Guns lost 158 (20 destroyed, 138 disabled) Vehicles lost 303 (52 destroyed, 251 disabled) Assaulting units: 14th Indian Division 19th Indian Division 20th Indian Division 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 50th Tank Brigade 23rd Indian Division 762nd Tank Battalion 75th Indian Brigade 7th Australian Division 22nd (East African) Brigade 255th Armoured Brigade 267th Armoured Brigade 63rd Indian Brigade 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment 3rd Carabiniers Regiment 150th RAC Regiment 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment 73rd Motorised Brigade 75th IAC Regiment 70th British Division 26th Indian Division 6th Medium Regiment 251st Coast AA Regiment 1st USMC AA Battalion 2/11th Field Regiment 1st Indian Light AA Regiment 260th Coast AA Regiment 1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion 2/9th Field Regiment 85th British AT Gun Regiment 93rd Coast AA Regiment 26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment Defending units: 55th Division 24th Ind Engineer Regiment 21st Division 48th Division 14th Tank Regiment 5th Division 22nd Ind Engineer Regiment 33rd Division 22nd Tank Regiment 1st Division 2nd Division 4th Ind Engineer Regiment 29th Ind Engineer Regiment 12th Air Defense AA Regiment 2nd Area Army 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 1st Art.Mortar Regiment 3rd Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd RF Gun Battalion 15th Air Defense AA Regiment 14th Army 2nd Ind.AA Gun Co 2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 51st Air Defense AA Battalion 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 6th Air Defense AA Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 41st Air Defense AA Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 54th Field AA Battalion 9th RF Gun Battalion 1st RF Gun Battalion 21st Army -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/5337714DA0074ACA8E62EF21EC6AD35D.jpg[/image] Here are the number for the air losses and the situation map. This time I tried a traditional sweep/escort tactic which worked much better than LR CAP for protecting bombers and getting them in to strike. Lost only a few to flak and virtually none to A to A. Got to a lot of Tojos, which is nice. I know that won't change the numbers, but he only has three groups, so harder to keep them going and active while replacing airframes. Fingers crossed we can either reinforce or fall back as both sides recover.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 3:21:28 PM)
WINTER IS COMING At last the North is free of worry for a few months. After rushing to thwart early Japanese expansion in the area and to solidify strong positions at Adak and Dutch Harbor, now the Aleutians are fairly well built up, protected with some small infantry forces and they are expanding to provide a potential launching point for both air strikes and possible invasions later in the game. The plan over the winter is to continue developing the most forward bases while slowly getting more aviation support and a small naval force into the area. I don't see this being a major area of action for some time, but I'd like to be able to challenge any IJN penetrations up here. [image]local://upfiles/37283/2202C9BD6F39431F91C0D2B517C9786B.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 3:25:28 PM)
SW AUSTRALIA This shows recent recon of the area in SW OZ. It looks like very limited forces, but as I imagined, with the ability to strike at coming invasions. I bet some CVs are stationed at Perth and ready to move should anything be picked up by these plethora of search planes at Esperance. The single DD at Ceduna was immediately picked up with a 10/10 DL!! [image]local://upfiles/37283/D9D61230A56C4BE3A0610C8500AFE034.jpg[/image]

Q-Ball -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 3:58:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 Interesting he built Perth's shipyard that much. A good reason? Dunno. But he's going to leave you a nice asset by and by. I'm a little late, but that doesn't make sense at all. Allies are really hurting in that part of the world for a decent shipyard, why build them one? IJN can always expand/use Singapore or Soerbaya. With the map edge pretty close to Perth, it's never completely safe for Japan....

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 4:15:15 PM)
Start walking up that road, IMO [;)].

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 4:44:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Q-Ball quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 Interesting he built Perth's shipyard that much. A good reason? Dunno. But he's going to leave you a nice asset by and by. I'm a little late, but that doesn't make sense at all. Allies are really hurting in that part of the world for a decent shipyard, why build them one? IJN can always expand/use Singapore or Soerbaya. With the map edge pretty close to Perth, it's never completely safe for Japan.... Not sure. I'm sure he wanted to hold all of this longer. The plan was probably for all of China to collapse by around now and for India to hold on with the industry producing for much longer than it has. Not that the Allies are near to controlling India, but the Japanese have been falling back continually for 4-5 months now. It seems by his occasional comments and what I see in game (and what I don't) that he's now thinning about consolidation. he hasn't seen the bulk of the US CVs in a good while, and he could be wondering what is in the works as well as realizing that if he got a lot of troops trapped in OZ the DEI would be pretty vulnerable too, making China and India also harder to deal with if he tun had to transfer strength from them. From a Japanese perspective I'm not sure why he built the shipyard up, but I think the current pull-back is actually a good move. Especially if he can still catch my surge back into this area, so I have to be careful.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/23/2014 4:45:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna Start walking up that road, IMO [;)]. I think you're right. I have some still restricted divisions to use for that. [;)]

crsutton -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/24/2014 12:05:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert In spite of all of this I decided to try a DA since we have superior numbers, in a clear hex, with several tough armor units sporting brand new Lee tanks, and plenty of Valentine and Stuart tanks as well. The large majority of the units have acceptable exp now (50-55) with the Brits and Aussies in the 70-80 exp range. Every unit was rested, great morale and no fatigue or disruption. He can't have dug in more than 2 forts here, so we pulled the trigger. Bad idea, apparently. After somewhat even air battles and good strikes on the armies, the Allies get stomped with 3x the losses including 250 destroyed squads and 50+vehicles lost. [&:] Allied armor does not rule. I'm not sure where the Japanese got all of the Panzerfausts, but they manage to wipe out half of a partially filled brigade of Lee tanks and put another one into jeopardy with 2/3 disablements. Is this happening with 47mm AT guns, or are the massive 24-30cm guns in the heavy arty units somehow training in on the tanks? I don't get it. My theory is that the Brit/Indian leaders are simply SOO BAD that it doesn't matter at this point what's being used by the Allied side, it can't compete with 70-80 exp units sporting leaders that are 60-70 exp across the board. Still, you'd think a 1:1 would be possible here in clear territory, and especially since the bombers all got through and put some good damage for the second day in a row on the Japanese. Yep, pretty much supports your theory. Leaders asides Allied 1942 divisions are not up to 1-1 attacks in most cases. I try to avoid that. The odd thing is that with grant tanks (not stuarts) you can attack Japanese infantry at 1-5 odds and not come out with any losses. But if they are in a big mixed stack then that is different.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/24/2014 1:46:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crsutton quote: ORIGINAL: obvert In spite of all of this I decided to try a DA since we have superior numbers, in a clear hex, with several tough armor units sporting brand new Lee tanks, and plenty of Valentine and Stuart tanks as well. The large majority of the units have acceptable exp now (50-55) with the Brits and Aussies in the 70-80 exp range. Every unit was rested, great morale and no fatigue or disruption. He can't have dug in more than 2 forts here, so we pulled the trigger. Bad idea, apparently. After somewhat even air battles and good strikes on the armies, the Allies get stomped with 3x the losses including 250 destroyed squads and 50+vehicles lost. [&:] Allied armor does not rule. I'm not sure where the Japanese got all of the Panzerfausts, but they manage to wipe out half of a partially filled brigade of Lee tanks and put another one into jeopardy with 2/3 disablements. Is this happening with 47mm AT guns, or are the massive 24-30cm guns in the heavy arty units somehow training in on the tanks? I don't get it. My theory is that the Brit/Indian leaders are simply SOO BAD that it doesn't matter at this point what's being used by the Allied side, it can't compete with 70-80 exp units sporting leaders that are 60-70 exp across the board. Still, you'd think a 1:1 would be possible here in clear territory, and especially since the bombers all got through and put some good damage for the second day in a row on the Japanese. Yep, pretty much supports your theory. Leaders asides Allied 1942 divisions are not up to 1-1 attacks in most cases. I try to avoid that. The odd thing is that with grant tanks (not stuarts) you can attack Japanese infantry at 1-5 odds and not come out with any losses. But if they are in a big mixed stack then that is different. I had hoped that in clear territory having a slight edge in AV plus the firepower edge of the armor and quality of the Allied troops could at least avoid this kind of result. I was wrong. I thought about attacking first just with tanks, but I thought this was a riskier proposition. Maybe when i'm more confident with my units and what they can do I'll try that. I did lose a lot of good tanks in this one, and I'm not sure it would have been different if they were on their own.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/25/2014 12:54:41 PM)
Nov 1 - 4, 1942 SUBS: Greenling takes a pounding in the strait of Malaya. She'll head back to Bombay for a refit. The I-17 gets a few hard knocks in So Pac. INDIA: All troops from the 53, 30 debacle near Patna retreat back and will now filter out the least combat ready back to Benares for recuperation. I'll leave a strong contingent here for the time being to make sure the Japanese do the same, but there are more Allied troops elsewhere that can hopefully cause some damage in the South. This will be another short period of consolidation in India. I'll get a bunch of engineers and base forces to the South and build up the areas near Ceylon, eventually taking the rest of those bees out farther once I have sufficient strength in Banglaore and Mysore. I'll start scouting along the cost for Viz/Cocanda and See how much the Japanese have retreated. The USN is all getting upgrades so there will be no significant missions until that finishes, but then things will shift into a new gear and some larger ops will start ramping up, here and elsewhere. I left a group of Vengences on ground attack stupidly and lost 15 for nothing. [8\|] CENT PAC: Things are looking up here. Another two bombardments go into Nauru, not completely closing the fields but putting good damage on the base. i want him to think this is the main focus. Then I'll land on Makin and potentially Mili just after if there is no big reaction. A few more MTBs sunk at Nauru. He's using them in TFs of 1 boat, which seems so far ineffective. SO PAC: Rossel Island, Auki and Thousand Ships Bay are invaded. There is no Japanese presence here, and no reaction to the small TFs bringing troops, so I'm assuming he's given up on this area. I'l start getting more bold with my xAKLs and send in some engineers and supply to get things moving faster here. Lunga is now completely surrounded, but not abandoned, so I'l land there soon. I'd bet a bunch will be flown out soon. I'll start LR CAPing the base from Tulagi once that base gets to level 2 and I bring in another fighter group. CHINA: The Japanese suffer a 1:3 on the South approaches to Kweiyang. That is great, as they lose nearly 300 infantry squads (17 destroyed) from two divisions that were already below full strength (793 AV between the two of them). They're already moving out and others loo to be on the way. Our Chinese troops managed to get two forts built each here, so it's a good defensive spot, and I've got two fresh 400AV units from up North that are the bulk of the troops here. This got their exp up above 50 as well. Some of the more experienced Corps are up around 60exp, but they're also a bit depleted from the fighting and will take up rear positions near Chungking to dig and eventually, if supply is ever flown in, start taking reinforcements. On the other side of Kweiyang the units take a pounding from the air in spite of having 3-4 forts built now. Finally managed to catch the Lilys hitting Wenchow. Knocked down about 12 of them with 9 Marine F4F-3. [:)] SIGINT: Still getting a few ship movement reports. Not too interesting this time. This is probably escorting something, but also could be an ASW ship surrounding the KB. Never know. E Kunashiri is moving to Cocos Islands (33,101). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 1, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 71st JAAF AF Bn , at 136,125 (Makin) Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 25 A-20A Havoc x 3 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 297 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarawa , at 136,128 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 18 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 15 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 2, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Rossel Island (105,137) TF 440 troops unloading over beach at Rossel Island, 105,137 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 71st Chinese Corps, at 73,49 , near Kweiyang Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-21-Ic Sally x 4 Ki-21-IIa Sally x 57 Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 36 Ki-49-Ia Helen x 24 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 357 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 23 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 3, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses H8K1 Emily: 2 damaged 5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL St. Louis CL Detroit DD King DD Gilmer DD Clark DD Balch DD Bailey Japanese ground losses: 162 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 14 Runway hits 38 Port hits 15 Port supply hits 2 SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CL St. Louis CL St. Louis firing at Nauru Island -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses H8K1 Emily: 2 damaged Allied Ships CA Louisville CA Northampton DD Worden DD Downes DD Lang DD Wilson Japanese ground losses: 8 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 6 Port hits 2 CA Louisville firing at Nauru Island CA Northampton firing at Nauru Island -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 10 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 12 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1 Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5 Allied aircraft Vengeance I x 16 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Vengeance I: 5 destroyed Vengeance I: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Vengeance I bombing from 9000 feet Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 4, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Thousand Ships Bay (114,136) TF 348 troops unloading over beach at Thousand Ships Bay, 114,136 Allied ground losses: 30 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Auki (115,136) TF 277 troops unloading over beach at Auki, 115,136 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nauru Island , at 127,128 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 1 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 19 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 8 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 76,50 (near Kweiyang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 30612 troops, 505 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 793 Defending force 36513 troops, 212 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1050 Japanese adjusted assault: 478 Allied adjusted defense: 1696 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3678 casualties reported Squads: 17 destroyed, 248 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled Allied ground losses: 526 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 36 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled) Assaulting units: 6th Division 40th Division 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 13th Army 13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 4th Mortar Battalion 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Defending units: 58th Chinese Corps 62nd Chinese Corps 75th Chinese Corps 95th Chinese Corps 16th Group Army 7th Chinese Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/64FAA9C5CD28457AA8100D20C03D4088.jpg[/image] This is one of the big Corps that just produced the 1:3 result for the IJA DA near Kweiyang. Even managed to scour up a good leader for this one. Wish I had some like this in India! Supply is poor after the attack here, but hopefully some will flow before the next one.

obvert -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/25/2014 1:01:12 PM)
SW OZ I've got a division and a brigade with some AA and a few base forces marching on Kalgoorlie now. It'll be a long slog. Not much over here though as this shot of troop strength shows. He could rail from Perth of course, but not much there according to SIGINT either. Ran this little DD around and got tacked with 10/10 all the way across the edge of OZ 10-12 hexes out from the coast. No strikes though. I'm sure he knows what I'm up to there. [image]local://upfiles/37283/0CD00EB94DB3449683855D1279B539B7.jpg[/image]

Lokasenna -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/25/2014 3:47:32 PM)
Looks like AF units only.

JocMeister -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/25/2014 4:48:16 PM)
Thats a nice Chinese unit there. If you ever get China in supply again GJ are in deep trouble. [:)]

Yaab -> RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J) (10/25/2014 5:34:44 PM)
95th Chinese Corps is somewhat of an anomaly, since it starts the war with 18 additional mortars. Great to see this "artillery" corps in good shape at this point of the war. Full compliment of guns - impressive.

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