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JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 12:03:46 PM)

Fighter pools and upgrades USN
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This is much more straight forward. All CV squadrons upgrade to the F4F-4 and then F6F and then finally ends up with the F8F. This upgrade path is used for ALL CV/CVL based squadrons including arriving ones. So I wonīt be able to fly and Corsairs of my CVs until 1/45 when all heavy CVs resize and gets a new 36 plane squadron with Corsair 1Ds.

The CVEs on the other hand are a bit more complicated. Seems to be many different paths and I canīt seem to find a pattern in it. Most squadrons seem to be stuck in the Wildcat path. But some are able to upgrade to the Hellcat. At first I thought only the VF squadrons (some CVEs get them too) could upgrade but I have found at least 2 VC(F) squadrons that can upgrade to the Hellcat. Could be connected to the type of CVE?

The VRF squadrons also seem to be a mix. Most go the Hellcat path but 2 follows the Wildcat path.

This will have a serious impact on the allied CV/CVE fleet. Not a positive one. No Corsairs and 95% of the CVE fleet flying Wildcats throughout the game. Not sure I want to find out what a Japanese KB strike against an allied CVE fleet with Wildcats will look like! [X(]

On the other hand PDU OFF will have a serious impact on Japanese LBA and the KB too. No more unhistorical 800kg bombs Judy-4s. All CV based DBs end with the D4Y4 version. If I remember correctly that model was never CV capable but it is in the game. Iīm also assuming there will be a less potent LBA threat. Might be wrong on that one though! [X(]





JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 12:47:25 PM)

Uuugh.

Just hit a bug in China. The same old movement bug as usual. No reset this time but they didnīt move to the intended hex but into another.

Bläääh. I asked Tom to re run the turn and see if they shift hex as they should.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 2:10:45 PM)

Tom reran the turn but still the same thing. Sucks but neither of us wants to wait for Michealm so I will just have to live with it.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 2:17:23 PM)

This could turn out interesting...

Pulled back a bit towards the SW. I hope that will bring me out of range for a night battle and into range of LBA. Not sure what Tom has. Probably CAs + DDs like me. I hope there isnīt any fast BB in that lot...

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JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 4:19:12 PM)

8th August 42
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Nothing exciting!

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SOPAC/OZ
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Tom pulled back. First time Iīve seen him back out of combat. [X(] He only had a 6/6 DL on "Ching" though and might have seen BBs. Then again...why fear old allied BBs?

My bet is that he will be back with the KB very shortly. Time to get out of Dodge...

Tom also swept Sydney. Not happy with the results. Some heads have rolled and I now hope to do better next time...

quote:

Morning Air attack on Sydney , at 90,167

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 33,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 44
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 42


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 75
P-40E Warhawk x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 6 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


More fighters building up at Brisbane. Time to send the 4Es in again. Almost 400 planes at Brisbane now. Iīll set the bombers up 12k this time and hopefully AA will be less painful.

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Burma
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Sweeps hit Calcutta too. Didnīt do very well since most of my fighters were resting. Not a mistake I will repeat...

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Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 33,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 42

Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 16
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I Trop: 5 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed



No other news!





Sangeli -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 4:44:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
More fighters building up at Brisbane. Time to send the 4Es in again. Almost 400 planes at Brisbane now. Iīll set the bombers up 12k this time and hopefully AA will be less painful.

If Japan is really that concentrated on Brisbane he must be much weaker in the rest of OZ. Perhaps the move is to bypass Brisbane for now and eliminate the Japanese to the north. It will be a thorn in your side during the process but I don't think it will be a knife. When everything else is eliminated it will be easier to take on the hordes at Brisbane.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 4:50:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sangeli


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
More fighters building up at Brisbane. Time to send the 4Es in again. Almost 400 planes at Brisbane now. Iīll set the bombers up 12k this time and hopefully AA will be less painful.

If Japan is really that concentrated on Brisbane he must be much weaker in the rest of OZ. Perhaps the move is to bypass Brisbane for now and eliminate the Japanese to the north. It will be a thorn in your side during the process but I don't think it will be a knife. When everything else is eliminated it will be easier to take on the hordes at Brisbane.


Iīve considered that. I donīt have enough troops to move North and in the meantime make sure Tom doesnīt counter attack out of Brisbane and cuts me off. I need a little bit more troops for that.

Working on that though. [:)]




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 5:47:13 PM)

Japanese Subs
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Not really sure what Erik is doing to have such an easy time with GJs subs. Tom can act with impunity.

Some examples.
A week ago I spotted a sub just outside San Diego. Sent a 4 ship APD TF to "deal with it". Sat in the same hex for 6 turns. No hits scored. Only 1 attack. Sub left after it ran out of TTs shooting at the APDs.

I have a sub sitting in Auckland harbor. It has made no less then 4 attacks on the Achilles/Perth TF. No attacks ever made on the sub. It left after running out of TTs.

I have a sub sitting in the shallows around Fiji. I had 3 different ASW TFs chasing it. It left after it fired all its TTs on the ASW ships.

And now this...

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Sub attack near Ta'u at 151,159

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
CV Illustrious
CA Chester
CA Portland
CLAA Van Heemskerck
DD Hammann
DD Russell
DD Mustin


SS I-172 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Illustrious
I-172 diving deep ....
DD Russell fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Ta'u at 151,159

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
AO Kaskaskia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AO Platte
AO Neosho
APD Gregory
APD Waters
APD Stringham


SS I-172 launches 4 torpedoes at AO Kaskaskia
APD Waters fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Stringham attacking submerged sub ....
APD Waters fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Stringham fails to find sub and abandons search
APD Waters fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Waters fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Waters fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Waters fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


Any ideas? My ASW TFs/Escorts are very close to 100% ineffective. Iīve sunk a whooping 2 subs so far. Mines have been thrice as effective. When I realized just how ineffective my ASW was a month back I started training ASW pilots. Will take at least 2 more months before the first batch is ready though.

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BBfanboy -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 6:25:20 PM)

Do your ASW ship skippers have both high naval 60+ and high aggression 60+? In ASW aggression seems to equal persistence rather than daring.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 7:04:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Do your ASW ship skippers have both high naval 60+ and high aggression 60+? In ASW aggression seems to equal persistence rather than daring.


No, not on the individual ships. But the TF commander always have a at least 50 in naval skill and at least 60-65 in aggression.

Couldnīt afford the PPs to switch out all the captains. Perhaps on the APDs but not on all the SCs, AMs, KVs and PGs.




Sangeli -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 7:34:08 PM)

As with many AFBs your problem is that you think you need to train ASW in pilots before using them in that role. Bad idea! Of course training ASW is useful but you need planes flying the missions more right now. Get some groups flying ASAP even if their ASW skill is low; eventually they can be replaced with better trained pilots. At the very least the detection from air will prevent the Japanese subs from launching effective attacks against your ships making it a worthwhile deployment.




Lowpe -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 7:45:44 PM)

Put those squadrons on 40 ASW, 40 train, 20 rest, 1-2k altitude and search arc to cover the area.

Put a float plane squadron on night search the infested area.

Put another group on day naval search the infested area.

3 Squadrons (or if the area is small 3 splinters of one squadron), plus send in your ASW group, break them into 3's instead of 4's increase their react range.

Good commander with naval/aggression

worst case drop multiple different types of mines.

even worst case -- don't go there.

You have some planes with working radar already...Aussie bombers and one NZ bomber that I recall off the top of my head. Use them.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 7:48:42 PM)

Some squadrons of WHAT? [:D]




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 7:51:08 PM)

Btw, I just got a crazy, crazy thought...Was just about to pull the trigger until I realized I had a beer or two. I think Iīll wait until tomorrow before pulling any triggers! [:D]




Lowpe -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 8:11:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some squadrons of WHAT? [:D]


You complain bitterly about being awash in outdated planes. Well, it don't matter for ASW...heck almost any plane works great in either a naval search or if the range is there an ASW mode. Old SBDs, Wirraways, Bolo, etc, you have much more than you realize.

Where is the beer AAR? What are you drinking tonight?






HansBolter -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 8:25:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some squadrons of WHAT? [:D]


Hudsons, Bolos, Blenheim Is, Wiraways and Kingfishers.

MY setting is close to Lowpe's. I use 50 ASW, 30 Train, 20 rest.

Floatplane set at 1k and 2Es at 2k.

I also set all FPs on cruisers escorting CVs to ASW.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 8:32:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some squadrons of WHAT? [:D]


You complain bitterly about being awash in outdated planes. Well, it don't matter for ASW...heck almost any plane works great in either a naval search or if the range is there an ASW mode. Old SBDs, Wirraways, Bolo, etc, you have much more than you realize.

Where is the beer AAR? What are you drinking tonight?



Ah, the problem is not PLANES! Its the RIGHT planes! [:D] I have 4 Vindicator squadrons at Pago Pago. Problem is they are all 2 plane squadrons. I donīt have any Vindicators to fill them out with. And I canīt upgrade them because I donīt have any SBD-3 in the pool...bloody PDU OFF. I though it was supposed to make things easier? [:D]

I do have a squadrons of Bolos at PH though...that would work! [:)] Wirraways have to short range to be useful. Remember that the range is halved when flying ASW. Right?

Here is what Iīm drinking tonight. Not the best beer but I had two in the fridge! [:D]

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/wychwood-hobgoblin-pasteurised/5107/




offenseman -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 8:32:15 PM)

+1 on an ASW/Train/Rest split that these guys are talking about. It gets your planes in the air doing more than they are doing by simply training and I have seen good results in raising skill levels using both those ratios. At the least a few planes will get a few subs to duck under the water and not be able to get a shot a high value target now and then.




HansBolter -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 8:38:57 PM)

Wirraways and Kingfishers I use for close in port defense.

Hudsons, Blenny Is and Bolos provide the longer range coverage.




Lokasenna -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 8:52:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Ah, the problem is not PLANES! Its the RIGHT planes! [:D] I have 4 Vindicator squadrons at Pago Pago. Problem is they are all 2 plane squadrons. I donīt have any Vindicators to fill them out with. And I canīt upgrade them because I donīt have any SBD-3 in the pool...bloody PDU OFF. I though it was supposed to make things easier? [:D]



I think it's worth reminding everyone who is going to play PDU Off that there is this insanely frustrating drawback, right here. Units that get shot up or just don't start with very many planes are stuck with those 2 planes forever while you wait for your pools to build up. At least as the Allies.



I've had Hobgoblin. I think I prefer it to Newcastle and some of the other pub beers you can get in the states at those places that only go halfway towards making a good English/Irish/Scottish pub/tavern type place. My home city has a really good one, though. They're all the way in Iowa and they have Fullers on tap, along with the standards and other more obscure ones.

In Alexandra, VA, there's a really awesome Irish pub. Complete with live folk music. I wish they'd get better beer - I always end up ordering a Guinness because they've got that, Newcastle, a house ale (OK I order that one too), and then standard American fare: piss beer and IPAs. Boring.




HansBolter -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 9:16:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Ah, the problem is not PLANES! Its the RIGHT planes! [:D] I have 4 Vindicator squadrons at Pago Pago. Problem is they are all 2 plane squadrons. I donīt have any Vindicators to fill them out with. And I canīt upgrade them because I donīt have any SBD-3 in the pool...bloody PDU OFF. I though it was supposed to make things easier? [:D]



I think it's worth reminding everyone who is going to play PDU Off that there is this insanely frustrating drawback, right here. Units that get shot up or just don't start with very many planes are stuck with those 2 planes forever while you wait for your pools to build up. At least as the Allies.



I've had Hobgoblin. I think I prefer it to Newcastle and some of the other pub beers you can get in the states at those places that only go halfway towards making a good English/Irish/Scottish pub/tavern type place. My home city has a really good one, though. They're all the way in Iowa and they have Fullers on tap, along with the standards and other more obscure ones.

In Alexandra, VA, there's a really awesome Irish pub. Complete with live folk music. I wish they'd get better beer - I always end up ordering a Guinness because they've got that, Newcastle, a house ale (OK I order that one too), and then standard American fare: piss beer and IPAs. Boring.



There is another great one in Hyde Park Tampa. For 12 years I worked a block away and went there for lunch at least once a week.

Owned and operated by Irish folk with an authentic thatched roof (not something you see in urban environments very often):

http://www.yelp.com/biz/four-green-fields-tampa




Lowpe -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 9:40:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Some squadrons of WHAT? [:D]


Hudsons, Bolos, Blenheim Is, Wiraways and Kingfishers.

MY setting is close to Lowpe's.


Not my find. Credit goes to Obvert, who I think showed how effective it can be against the author of this AAR.[:D]

Short range planes set to naval search, low altitude. They can and will attack Subs eventually when their skill gets high, but the trick is to max detection levels and attack vectors. ASW+NavSearch plus night search plus a hunter killer group.

Even a 2 plane squadron can search 2 hexes, the origination hex and one other with very little chance of crashing -- might want to hand pick the pilots for those to get high exp ones initially.






Sangeli -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 9:43:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Ah, the problem is not PLANES! Its the RIGHT planes! [:D] I have 4 Vindicator squadrons at Pago Pago. Problem is they are all 2 plane squadrons. I donīt have any Vindicators to fill them out with. And I canīt upgrade them because I donīt have any SBD-3 in the pool...bloody PDU OFF. I though it was supposed to make things easier? [:D]

It might be worth withdrawing/disbanding some of those squadrons if you don't have enough planes in the pool. Good way to consolidate your aircraft into actually useful sized squadrons. Just be sure to select the option for them to return automatically so you don't have to pay PP to get them back.
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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
I do have a squadrons of Bolos at PH though...that would work! [:)] Wirraways have to short range to be useful. Remember that the range is halved when flying ASW. Right?

I use Wirraways all the time in OZ for ASW work. Great way to get some mission experience for the OZ bombers. But why would range be half? That doesn't make sense to me.





Lowpe -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 9:58:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sangeli
I use Wirraways all the time in OZ for ASW work. Great way to get some mission experience for the OZ bombers. But why would range be half? That doesn't make sense to me.


Set a squadron on ASW work and you will notice the search arcs are only 50 percent as long, because the search for submarines is much more intensive. You can search at half extended range too.







JeffroK -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/5/2014 10:08:43 PM)

Re your comment about no USN VF's equipping with the F4U, thats what the Marines are for....

Other thought, If you withdraw a squadron early, do you get PP's or VP's, cant remember.

I also see 27 P40E available for the Dutch, too late to rescue a squadron?




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/6/2014 5:06:10 AM)

Thanks for the advice on the ASW guys. Iīll try to sort something out. Canīt continue like this! [X(]

JeffK, no dutch pilots! The ones I have are flying dutch CATs.




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/6/2014 5:27:06 AM)

Wellington Naval battle!
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[X(]

Did NOT see this coming. Pretty annoyed with "Ching" and his CAs right now...[:@] Although some of it is mt fault. I had detached 4 DDs from his force to hunt (make the sub shoot all its TTs) 2 subs sitting outside Wellington. Perfect timing on Toms part. 0% moonlight and apparently every allied radar set failed this night. So the battle started at 1000 yards...[:(]

Could have ended much, much worse for me so I should be happy really.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 1
CL Naka
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Akigumo
DD Kagero
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CA Northampton
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dunlap, Shell hits 1
DD Fanning
DD Case, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
DD Conyngham, Shell hits 2


Luckily for me the Perth/Achilles TF saved the day or this would have been an embarrassing defeat...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Naka, Shell hits 3
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 1
DD Kagero, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL Achilles, Shell hits 3
CL Perth, Shell hits 3
DD Woodworth, Shell hits 3
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 2
DD McCall, Shell hits 2
DD Benham, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Tucker, Shell hits 4
DD Litchfield, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage


The AI sadly cost me a bunch of DDs as it creates those lovely escort TFs... [:(]

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 8,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
CL Kinu
CL Abukuma
CL Kiso, Shell hits 1
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Isokaze
DD Shiranui
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Urakaze
DD Hamakaze


Allied Ships
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 47, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Case, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
DD Conyngham, Shell hits 4, on fire


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
CL Kinu
CL Abukuma
CL Kiso
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze
DD Isokaze
DD Shiranui
DD Amatsukaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Urakaze
DD Hamakaze


Allied Ships
DD McCall, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Litchfield, Shell hits 3, and is sunk


Weather is really bad with thunderstorms and heavy rain. Only the B25s fly and fail to score any hits. Losses are about even which in reality is an allied victory. Besides the listed losses Iīm pretty sure Sendai will sink and DD Kagero too. No allied ships are at risk of sinking.

Now I just need to get the hell out before those CAs crash the party. Then again the air threat might scare Tom away.

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Jellicoe -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/6/2014 6:55:51 AM)

Agree completely on the ASW . I get a satisfying number of reports of attacks and hits on subs with Wirraways of all things with the 40/40/20 split at 1000 feet.

As for beer for witpae there can be only one. I had a nice pint of Spitfire last night 'downed all over Kent, just like the Luftwaffe'. A proper hoppy bitter. Harvey's Sussex Bes is my favourite though




JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/6/2014 6:58:02 AM)

Air war
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Tom is piling on pressure. Iīm barely making 1:1 and some day not even that. Normally I would pull back and let him sweep empty skies. But I desperately need the VPs.

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Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 58
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 31


Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 56
Hurricane IIc Trop x 37


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 7 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed


quote:

Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 84 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8


Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 26
Hurricane IIc Trop x 29


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 destroyed


The Nicks are particularity nasty. P40s simply donīt cut it against them. I need P38s. Preferably a couple of hundreds of them! [X(]

Obviously the RAF canīt keep this up for long. I just lost a month worth of replacements in a single day. USAAF is almost ready here though.

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JocMeister -> RE: Japanese land in OZ!! (9/6/2014 9:49:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Jellicoe

Agree completely on the ASW . I get a satisfying number of reports of attacks and hits on subs with Wirraways of all things with the 40/40/20 split at 1000 feet.

As for beer for witpae there can be only one. I had a nice pint of Spitfire last night 'downed all over Kent, just like the Luftwaffe'. A proper hoppy bitter. Harvey's Sussex Bes is my favourite though


I like Spitfire a lot. Its even available on taps here in Sweden in some places. Very easy to drink! Perfect during summer instead of some watery lager! [&o]




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