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Aurelian -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 7:36:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Southern_land quote: ORIGINAL: Aurelian quote: ORIGINAL: Southern_land Avatar Enemy mine battle for planet of the apes Ender's game Skyline (similar to Battle LA) and last (and least) battlefiled earth I'll see your battlefield earth and raise you starship troopers. DUDE! Starship troopers is a classic! DUDE!! The topic is scifi war movies!!! The book is a classic. The movie sucked jagged boulders. Though the direct to DVD ST3 Marauder wasn't bad.

gradenko2k -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 2:26:46 PM)
Starship Troopers the movie is one of the better satires of fascism and the military industrial complex. I'd say it definitely belongs in this thread.

Werewolf13 -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 2:48:28 PM)
quote: DUDE! Starship troopers is a classic! That movie was an abomination. It was so bad and so NOT Starship Troopers that Robert A Heinlein's widow made the producers take his name off of the credits. Heinlein rolls over in his grave every time Starship Troopers is mentioned in the same sentence as movie. That said: even though the movie bears little to no resemblance to the book (and that's my complaint about it) - still - even though the movie wasn' all that great its worth a watch on NetFlix (is it on NF?) if one has nothing else to do for an hour or so.

TulliusDetritus -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 3:24:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000 Starship Troopers the movie is one of the better satires of fascism and the military industrial complex Are you sure it was intended? [8D] Maybe it's like the Rambo movies. I watch them exclusively to have a good laugh (quite hilarious stuff this Rambo guy). But of course these are unintended laughs. I mean, the director did not make the movie to provoke these many laughs (in my case that is). He was dead serious about honour, the flag and blah blah blah.

Zap -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 3:45:57 PM)
Went for the new Transformer movie, over th weekend. It was good. But to be honest my age is showing. I had a harder time liking it for the constant action! It was too fast for me. Old age is a b#%&*ch.

Perturabo -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 4:04:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Werewolf1326 quote: DUDE! Starship troopers is a classic! That movie was an abomination. It was so bad and so NOT Starship Troopers that Robert A Heinlein's widow made the producers take his name off of the credits. Heinlein rolls over in his grave every time Starship Troopers is mentioned in the same sentence as movie. That said: even though the movie bears little to no resemblance to the book (and that's my complaint about it) - still - even though the movie wasn' all that great its worth a watch on NetFlix (is it on NF?) if one has nothing else to do for an hour or so. Here is why it's secretly a classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcUa38KNFo quote: ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus quote: ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000 Starship Troopers the movie is one of the better satires of fascism and the military industrial complex Are you sure it was intended? [8D] Yes.

Kuokkanen -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 5:57:35 PM)
Reviews about Starship Troopers (the movie) in Finland call it satire. It seems finnish movie critics are smarter than american ones [;)] Satire or not, overall Starship Troopers - with all its faults (can't they bring any futuristic equivalents of Vulcan?) - is best scifi war movie I know. And the film analysis by Rob Ager has one miss: asteroid wrecked spacecraft's long range communications, yet guy seems to assume ship send report about it. [edit] Starship Troopers movie was started without any deliberate relation to the novel. Then somebody noticed similarities, movie name was changed, and script was modified. [edit2] I would also like to make comparison to All quiet on the western front: Recruiting in school (or so Rico's father says) - check Pro-war propaganda - check War is Hell - check

Aurelian -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 7:18:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus quote: ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000 Starship Troopers the movie is one of the better satires of fascism and the military industrial complex Are you sure it was intended? [8D] Maybe it's like the Rambo movies. I watch them exclusively to have a good laugh (quite hilarious stuff this Rambo guy). But of course these are unintended laughs. I mean, the director did not make the movie to provoke these many laughs (in my case that is). He was dead serious about honour, the flag and blah blah blah. One nick name for it is Melrose Space. (Google the TV series Melrose Place.)

Perturabo -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 10:10:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aurelian quote: ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus quote: ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000 Starship Troopers the movie is one of the better satires of fascism and the military industrial complex Are you sure it was intended? [8D] Maybe it's like the Rambo movies. I watch them exclusively to have a good laugh (quite hilarious stuff this Rambo guy). But of course these are unintended laughs. I mean, the director did not make the movie to provoke these many laughs (in my case that is). He was dead serious about honour, the flag and blah blah blah. One nick name for it is Melrose Space. (Google the TV series Melrose Place.) They intentionally picked actors from that type of serials.

gradenko2k -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/1/2014 11:00:36 PM)
http://www.avclub.com/article/emstarship-troopersem-41966 That Starship Troopers the Movie is not faithful to Starship Troopers the Book is part of why it works so well as a satire - it shows you the flaws and cracks and contradictions of a military regime rather than reveling in it.

StarUnder -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/14/2014 1:53:38 PM)
Serenity ;)

Kuokkanen -> RE: Scifi war movies (7/14/2014 3:12:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000 That Starship Troopers the Movie is not faithful to Starship Troopers the Book is part of why it works so well as a satire - it shows you the flaws and cracks and contradictions of a military regime rather than reveling in it. It is less obvious to those who haven't read the book, therefore american reviewers painting the movies as exaltation instead satire. Sequel movies make point more clear, but otherwise seem to be of lesser quality. Serenity doesn't qualify as war movie. Neither does The Chronicles of Riddick.

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