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DHRedge -> RE: WITE mod to exclude war with USA (12/16/2014 3:27:13 AM)
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The entire discussion starts and ends with nukes, once they are developed, and only one side has them, that sets the end of the war. So if Germany would have waited, and USA would have still done a Manhattan project, it would not have helped. Since even with the USA not at war, they would have supplied nukes to England.
Germany would have also had to taken England, although with Russian and Mideast oil, and a capitulated Russia that would be possible. The thing is, the Russians were not fighting for a Monarchy, they were fighting for a 'new country' they had just won that was supporting workers and peasants, with some of the first democratic selection of local party officials they had ever had from each town, and then they get attacked by another 'corporate controlled' puppet put into power in Germany, so the motivation to defend 'Mother Russia' gave them a large percent of the population as devoted fighters, in contrast, Italy was never much into the war idea, since they were not defending there ideas, as much as that same old fighting for some rich guy idea. You can see a definite difference in motivation, that really makes a difference in the Eastern war.
Propaganda and Charisma often motivate large enlistments, nationalism is instilled from an early age in most people, however the difference in the support of foreign wars against non enemies to the people of a nation is a significant factor in how many troops are volunteers and how many are conscripts. Also why so much of USA media works so closely with the Military, nationalism is required to fight unjust wars, and to suppress a countries own populations.
Although the destruction that increased demand over production, postponed the demise of capitalism till at least the late 1970s, where then deficit spending and military build ups take over to provide the needed demand capitalism needs to maintain the scarcity of products it requires in a society. So the war still served Fascism, even if they lost technically, by its destruction of 80% of European production capabilities. (also planned obsolescence, consumerism, and a few other factors tries to keep demand over production so that capitalism is possible)
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