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markb50k -> Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/14/2014 11:52:41 AM)

NOTE: I can't attach a savegame since the game I'm using is heavily modded (new units), but the screenshot should explain the issue.

I have a German NAV in the Caspian Sea, USSR and Germany are at war.

A Soviet unit on the Caspian coast is still in supply (it says its tracing supply to Astrakhan), even though no Soviet SCS or NAV points are in the Caspian.

Notice the Afghan MTN is also still in supply as well.

It seems the Caspian is not following the same supply rules as normal sea areas.

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composer99 -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/14/2014 1:08:48 PM)

What are the units in the Allied 0 box? There's a hint of a truncated counter at the top of the screenshot.

Are you playing with or without the limited overseas supply option?



markb50k -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/14/2014 1:45:08 PM)

Soviet convoys only. I am playing without LOS, but either way, with no warships, Soviets cannot contest the German NAV.

LOS makes it even harder for units to stay in supply, so if anything, it would make it even less likely the Soviet MIL is still supplied.



paulderynck -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/14/2014 6:57:32 PM)

If it were LOS, they'd be in supply by virtue of the Convoy.

But even basic supply allows supply via "a surface naval unit" and as long as that unit is there, the supply path is there. And a Convoy is a surface naval unit.

So it's the opposite effect. Yes, LOS makes it harder, but if you meet LOS when LOS is not needed, then its even easier to be in supply.



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/14/2014 10:40:15 PM)

Just to clarify what Paul said:

If you are playing with the optional rule LOS, then all you need to have is a TRS/Naval Transport/AMPH in the sea area. If one or more of those units is present, then supply can be traced through the sea area. The presence or absence of other units doesn't matter.



markb50k -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/15/2014 2:29:07 AM)

I'm not playing with LOS, for the record



paulderynck -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/15/2014 2:30:48 AM)

And it doesn't matter, for the record. The supply is correct.



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/22/2014 3:31:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: markb50k

Soviet convoys only. I am playing without LOS, but either way, with no warships, Soviets cannot contest the German NAV.

LOS makes it even harder for units to stay in supply, so if anything, it would make it even less likely the Soviet MIL is still supplied.

Without LOS, the USSR would need a combat unit to contest the German Nav. However, what is the weather? The NAV might be ineffective as a blocking unit if the weather is bad: NoAirFactorsWeather = [wStorm, wBlizzard];



paulderynck -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/22/2014 4:09:04 AM)

With or without LOS, a CP is a surface naval unit and allows Soviet supply to be conducted.



Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: Caspian Sea Supply Error (7/27/2014 12:08:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

With or without LOS, a CP is a surface naval unit and allows Soviet supply to be conducted.

Ah, yes.



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