RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A)

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MrKane -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/6/2014 9:59:55 PM)
Situation Report July 11, 1942. Burma 5th, 33rd, 64th and 203rd Sentais fly over Calcutta. 72 Ki-43-IIa, 39 Ki-43-IIb engage 96 Hurricanes I & II b/c. Returning pilots report 13 Hurricanes shot down and 9 Oscars down. South Pacific Several night engagements near Wellington. Two group of my CAs fail to find enemy, only light ships engaged allied cruises. It did not go well, allied destroyers scored several torpedo hits on my destroyers. :(. At day allied bombers try to him my withdrawing ships without positive results. Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 1,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Sendai, Shell hits 1 CL Naka CL Jintsu, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Akigumo DD Kagero DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Indianapolis CA Northampton CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1 CA Vincennes, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Dunlap, Shell hits 1 DD Fanning DD Case, Shell hits 5, heavy fires DD Conyngham, Shell hits 2 Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Sendai, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Naka, Shell hits 3 CL Jintsu, Shell hits 21, and is sunk DD Akigumo, Shell hits 1 DD Kagero, Shell hits 5, heavy fires DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1 DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships CL Achilles, Shell hits 3 CL Perth, Shell hits 3 DD Woodworth, Shell hits 3 DD Jarvis, Shell hits 2 DD McCall, Shell hits 2 DD Benham, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Tucker, Shell hits 4 DD Litchfield, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 8,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Kinu CL Abukuma CL Kiso, Shell hits 1 DD Hayashio DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1 DD Isokaze DD Shiranui DD Amatsukaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Urakaze DD Hamakaze Allied Ships CA Vincennes, Shell hits 47, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Case, Shell hits 21, and is sunk DD Conyngham, Shell hits 4, on fire Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 5,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Isuzu CL Kinu CL Abukuma CL Kiso DD Hayashio DD Maikaze DD Isokaze DD Shiranui DD Amatsukaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Urakaze DD Hamakaze Allied Ships DD McCall, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Litchfield, Shell hits 3, and is sunk Night Time Surface Combat, near Wellington at 112,191, Range 6,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1 CL Kinu CL Abukuma CL Kiso, Shell hits 1 DD Hayashio DD Maikaze DD Isokaze DD Shiranui DD Amatsukaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Urakaze DD Hamakaze Allied Ships CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 7 CA Northampton CA Salt Lake City DD Dunlap DD Fanning

MrKane -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/6/2014 10:03:08 PM)
Situation Report July 12, 1942. South Pacific Jocke sneak his cruisers into Coral Sea :( Day Time Surface Combat, near Rennell Island at 109,147, Range 22,000 Yards Japanese Ships PB Ginyo Maru, Shell hits 19, and is sunk SC Ch 24, Shell hits 2, and is sunk SC Ch 27, Shell hits 9, and is sunk xAK Kansai Maru, Shell hits 22, and is sunk xAK Kashii Maru, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Akagane Maru, Shell hits 16, and is sunk xAK Ehime Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Achou Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Kashu Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Koyo Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PB Nikki Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk PB America Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Toyokuni Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk SC Ch 33, Shell hits 6, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Concord CL Raleigh CL Detroit CL Trenton DD Morris DD Ellet DD Reid DD Phelps DD Balch China One more Chinese Corp surrender near Kineko.

MrKane -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/6/2014 10:18:23 PM)
Situation Report July 13, 1942. A/C looses today summary: 53(A) 43(J) SS Swordfish launches 2 torpedoes at DD Akigumo ... Australia 3rd Kukotai(36 A6M3a) fly over Sydney. Allied welcome party include 94 P-39D, 13 13 P-400, 8 P-40E, 16 Hurricanes IIb. 8 Zeros lost for 4 Airacobras and one 1 Warhawk. 6th Kukotai(35 A6M5) fly over Sydney. Allied welcome party include 79 P-39D, 13 10 P-400, 5 P-40E, 15 Hurricanes IIb. 4 Zeros lost for 4 Airacobras and one 1 Hurricane. Burma 5th, 64th and 203rd Sentais sweep Calcutta. 39 Ki-45KAIa and 64 Ki-43-IIa/b engage 55 Hurricanes I & IIc. Returning pilots report 5 Hurricanes and 2 Oscars shot down. China Two more Chinese Corp surrender near Kineko.

MrKane -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/6/2014 10:42:42 PM)
Situation Report July 14, 1942. A/C looses today summary: 1(A) 4(J) Very quiet day. My air units needs a few days rest. I am quit happy with result of one week long air offensive. Allied losses ~163 a/c, Japanese losses 140 a/c and 21 pilots. He will very miss all those a/c in near future. Over 70 kills belong to Ki-45KAIa.

MrKane -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 10:15:49 AM)
Situation Report Aug 15 - Sep 1, 1942. A/C looses summary: 53(A) 79(J) I had long version, but I lost it due magic key located in south west corner of my keyboard. :( South Pacific Jocke bombed Noumea port, 3 DD sunk, several warships and AKE damaged. I did not have CAP at that time. ( forgot to fly them from Talugi ) Australia Jocke's armored column is advancing towards Maryborough. Both side are using bombers for ground support. My units managed to stop in bloody tank battle. Ground combat at 95,157 (near Maryborough) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 4483 troops, 6 guns, 474 vehicles, Assault Value = 262 Defending force 5150 troops, 47 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 172 Allied adjusted assault: 132 Japanese adjusted defense: 305 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 63 (19 destroyed, 44 disabled) Allied ground losses: 176 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 50 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 99 (33 destroyed, 66 disabled) Assaulting units: 2/11th Armoured Car Regiment 754th Tank Battalion 2/8th Armoured Regiment 2/4th Armoured Regiment 2/6th Armoured Regiment 2/5th Armoured Regiment 2/10th Armoured Regiment Defending units: 23rd Tank Regiment 8th Tank Regiment 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade 4th RF Gun Battalion China Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweiyang !!! at 29th Aug. 38 Blenheim IV shot down in CAP trap by Ki-43-IIa.

witpqs -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 5:26:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane I had long version, but I lost it due magic key located in south west corner of my keyboard. :( Why I type AAR posts in an editor. Otherwise sometimes the Internet eats it, sometimes I trash it! [:(]

MrKane -> RE: Lets burn Kangaroo land. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 8:20:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane I had long version, but I lost it due magic key located in south west corner of my keyboard. :( Why I type AAR posts in an editor. Otherwise sometimes the Internet eats it, sometimes I trash it! [:(] Good idea. But looks like I am not going to need. It seems this AAR will end tomorrow. Jocke just informed me that he will probably trow towel tomorrow :(

MrKane -> It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 8:26:29 PM)
Situation Report Sep 8, 1942. Pacific Combine feet intercepted allied forces near Baker Island today. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 147,136 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 129 B5N2 Kate x 57 D3A1 Val x 48 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 7 F4F-4 Wildcat x 33 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 10 destroyed Allied Ships APD Ward, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage AP W.A. Holbrook, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage AP Zeilin, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk AP American Legion, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AP George F. Elliot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage APD Kennison, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk APD Schley, Bomb hits 1, on fire AP Barnett AP Heywood, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk APD Crane AP U.S. Grant, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AP Hunter Liggett, Torpedo hits 1 AP J. Franklin Bell, Bomb hits 2 AP Fuller, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires AK Fomalhaut, Torpedo hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 2 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 24 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Raid is overhead VF-42 with F4F-4 Wildcat (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 8 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (15 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 15 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD Ward Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AP American Legion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 150,134 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 165 B5N2 Kate x 114 D3A1 Val x 151 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 17 F4F-3A Wildcat x 20 F4F-4 Wildcat x 64 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 25 damaged B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 18 destroyed, 15 damaged D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 2 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Wasp, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Hornet, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Portland CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CV Lexington, Bomb hits 1 CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CLAA Atlanta, Bomb hits 1 BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 12, on fire DD Blue CA Astoria DD Bagley CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1 DD Aaron Ward CA Chester CLAA San Juan, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 23 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 20 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 3 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 14 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-2 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes VF-42 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes VF-6 with F4F-3A Wildcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes VF-8 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes No.881 Sqn FAA with Martlet II (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 7 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes Ammo storage explosion on CV Wasp Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Wasp Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Enterprise Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CLAA San Juan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Howland Island at 150,132 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 48 A6M5 Zero x 111 Allied aircraft Swordfish I x 11 F4F-3A Wildcat x 13 F4F-4 Wildcat x 51 SBD-3 Dauntless x 163 TBF-1 Avenger x 24 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Swordfish I: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Swordfish I: 1 destroyed by flak F4F-3A Wildcat: 3 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 8 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 46 destroyed, 24 damaged SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak TBF-1 Avenger: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged Japanese Ships CA Chokai CV Kaga CV Akagi BB Haruna BB Hiei, Bomb hits 2 CV Shokaku CV Zuikaku, Torpedo hits 1 CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, on fire CVL Shoho BB Kongo CV Hiryu BB Yamato, Bomb hits 1 CVL Zuiho BB Kirishima CA Suzuya DD Akebono CVL Ryujo CA Kumano Aircraft Attacking: 5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. 5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. 5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 8 x Swordfish I launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo 1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 6 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb 10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers 1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Hiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 10 planes vectored on to bombers Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes 6 planes vectored on to bombers Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Howland Island at 150,132 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 34 A6M5 Zero x 82 Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 12 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 8 destroyed CAP engaged: Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 83 minutes 1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 65 minutes Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18977. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 23000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 65 minutes Hiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 25000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 116 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Howland Island at 150,132 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 30 A6M5 Zero x 75 Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 12 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 3 destroyed CAP engaged: Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes 1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 23000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 9 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes Hiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Howland Island at 150,132 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 29 A6M5 Zero x 71 Allied aircraft TBD-1 Devastator x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBD-1 Devastator: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: Ominato Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes 1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes Kaga-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 9 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes Hiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes

mind_messing -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 8:34:56 PM)
Was all your Zero CAP at 15000 ft?

MrKane -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 8:43:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing Was all your Zero CAP at 15000 ft? Yes, all.

MrKane -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 8:48:17 PM)
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Mike McCreery -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 9:18:29 PM)
Nicely done Sir!!

DanSez -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 11:09:08 PM)
wow. How many turns back did you detect his fleet building up and did you have any idea all his carriers were in the area? [sm=bow.gif]

MrKane -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/9/2014 11:38:18 PM)
I detected carriers 8 days ago. From that moment his fleet was track by patrol aircrafts. Background: I have noticed he likes to keep carriers 1-2 hex east of Pago Pago, each time I found his CVs he run towards Baker Island. This is why he lost Sara. So I decided set trap. KB was siting near Tabiteuea. And my subs were hunting around Pago Pago. And suddenly, Emily form Tabiteuea detected huge allied fleet 1 hex south of Baker Island. When I figured out he will land at Tabiteuea I decided intercept his carriers on way back to PH. I was counting that he will put cap down. He didn't. But I am still happy with result.

Mike McCreery -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 12:12:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane I detected carriers 8 days ago. From that moment his fleet was track by patrol aircrafts. Background: I have noticed he likes to keep carriers 1-2 hex east of Pago Pago, each time I found his CVs he run towards Baker Island. This is why he lost Sara. So I decided set trap. KB was siting near Tabiteuea. And my subs were hunting around Pago Pago. And suddenly, Emily form Tabiteuea detected huge allied fleet 1 hex south of Baker Island. When I figured out he will land at Tabiteuea I decided intercept his carriers on way back to PH. I was counting that he will put cap down. He didn't. But I am still happy with result. Could you expand upon the general strategic mistakes your opponent made? You seem to be an excellent player and I find that you win inside the heads of your opponents as much if not even more than on the battlefield ;]

Lowpe -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 12:20:17 AM)
Yes, from day 1 when you sank the Prince of Wales you seemed to be always two steps ahead of the Allies... but then if you were tracking his ships for 8 days I am stunned that he went ahead with the operation. Masterful game! Congratulations.[&o] [&o][&o][&o]

MrKane -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 12:25:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Yes, from day 1 when you sank the Prince of Wales you seemed to be always two steps ahead of the Allies... but then if you were tracking his ships for 8 days I am stunned that he went ahead with the operation. Masterful game! Congratulations.[&o] [&o][&o][&o] Thanks. He had two landings to cover. However I have no clue why he took such risk right now.

Lowpe -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 12:36:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane Thanks. He had two landings to cover. However I have no clue why he took such risk right now. Auto victory was very much on his mind...

Sangeli -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 1:01:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane Thanks. He had two landings to cover. However I have no clue why he took such risk right now. Auto victory was very much on his mind... And there was intel to suggest that part of the KB was returning for upgrades because of a SigInt report of a CV fleet.

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 1:05:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Yes, from day 1 when you sank the Prince of Wales you seemed to be always two steps ahead of the Allies... but then if you were tracking his ships for 8 days I am stunned that he went ahead with the operation. Masterful game! Congratulations.[&o] [&o][&o][&o] Thanks. He had two landings to cover. However I have no clue why he took such risk right now. Will you provide him your password so he can re-run the turns to see what you saw?

njp72 -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 1:37:56 AM)
Congrats, well played, a masterful effort. How did you get the A6m5s so early? They went through him like a knife through hot butter

Lokasenna -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 3:20:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58 quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Yes, from day 1 when you sank the Prince of Wales you seemed to be always two steps ahead of the Allies... but then if you were tracking his ships for 8 days I am stunned that he went ahead with the operation. Masterful game! Congratulations.[&o] [&o][&o][&o] Thanks. He had two landings to cover. However I have no clue why he took such risk right now. Will you provide him your password so he can re-run the turns to see what you saw? I would be interested in seeing the settings on both sides for that CV battle. It was very lopsided, so I'm wondering how much was sheer bad luck for the Allies.

GreyJoy -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 5:52:52 AM)
Great play Tom![&o]

MrBlizzard -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 8:30:41 AM)
This is another masterpiece Tom! Really impressive, you were waiting for him at Tabiteuea...[X(] It's a reverse Midway! It's like Japan broke Allied secret code [8D]. You brought everything, it seems Jocke didn't use some CVEs so you had the double of his planes. It seems also he had few fighters compared to his bombers so he was badly outnumbered both in defence and in offence. Very well played, congrats again [8D]

Spidery -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 11:59:56 AM)
Congratulations[sm=happy0065.gif], but a shame that it came to a sudden end. I think you applied the opening I used against you with far better operational and strategic acumen[sm=bow.gif] than I could manage.

rook749 -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 12:36:48 PM)
As an Allied player it's time to learn some lessons from this disaster. I will let other people rant about getting the A6M5 so fast, or this or that. As an AFB I need to focus on the piratical how did it happen and what do I do to avoid it. Before I start this is in no way a criticism of either player and some of items below may or may not have been done (some of the could also be just dumb [;)]). It is an honest attempt to learn as an aggressive Allied player. I don't want to sit until the Hellcat and Essex arrive and do nothing major. First off where is the fun for either side and it just does not "feel" WW2 like for the Allies to hide for 20 months. 1) Need PBY Coverage along your line of withdraw, Baker Island in this case. 2) Fall back to a point with Fighter coverage, 75 P-40E/P-39D at Baker Island would have allowed him to pull back to fighter cover if the PBY spotted the Japanese fleet. Not guaranteed to spot him but it gives you options and this game is all about options. 3) Fighting the Entire Japanese CV + CVE Fleet without your CVE/CVLs puts you at a major disadvantage. If the Hermes and the two CVE's were present it would have added another sixty-four fighters. 4) After the Fighter units on your American CVs expand to 36, make sure to split the Marine Fighter ACU and put 2/3 of a ACU on each of the big carriers for more fighters. If you still have all five of the big US carriers this adds 60 additional fighters. 5) Never withdraw or advance from the same point more than once (in the case Pago Pago to Baker Island) unless you cover it with the PBY's and fighters as noted above. That is a very good catch by Mr. Kane, I bet his a good poker player as well.[:D] 6) The A6M5 is very bad news, even worse if he has more fighter than you. 7) Always assume: It's A Trap...., it will remain a trap until the fleet is back at anchor in Peal as the Japaneses player is better than you and knows exactly what you are going to do and when. [:D] [image]local://upfiles/23360/6BB33A199FA448A1A779ADCA7EB05DC6.jpg[/image]

MrKane -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 1:57:47 PM)
Here is a few information, before we start discus about black magic :) 1) Fleet composition - CarDiv 1 & 2, 3 CV, 1-2 CVL + 2 - 3 BB + 3 - 4 CA + 8 - 10 DD, AAA value over 10K each ( AAA did great job ) fighters escort with CAP 30%, TB&DB: navy, mission search 0% - CarDiv 3 one hex behind CarDiv 1 & 2, two slow CV + 3 CVE + 3 CS + 6 DD, fighters LRCAP over CarDiv1, DB Search 100%, 60 Jake search 100% with 180 degree cover in direction where Jocke's fleet, All combat ships Jake search 100% at night. - Forward cover 9 DD divided by 3, to attract his search planes. - All carrier Captains were with Navy skill 70, other ships all over 60. - All fighter pilots experience 70+, Air&Def Skill 70+ - All Bombers pilots experience 60-70, bombing/torpedo/asw/def skills 70+ - No single rookie on my carriers - Bombers leaders Navy skill 60+, Air 60+, Inspiration 60+ - Fighters leaders Inspiration 65+, Air 65-75 - My squadrons leaders do not fly sorties, so I am not loosing 90% of then each mission. ( squadron reserve ) - All CAP set to 15k alt - DB set to 15k alt - TB set to 6k alt 2) Airframes - Yes I know that A6M5 is better, but during combat I did not notice any difference. My A6M2 did job even better ( maybe LRCAP ? ). 3) Battle - 15k alt gives my fighters dive bonus in both cases, - superior numbers are superior numbers - he send 40 fighters to protect APs 3 hex from his CVs, 20 were lost, rest return damaged during morning phase - my cap did very poor job, 60+ fighters only get to his bombers and they shot down only 46 DB and few TB, rear gun on TBF,SBD-3 did very well, over 50% attacking fighters were force to break attack - on other hand 20 Wildcats get to my bombers and I lost over 50 - 29min Radar warning let my Zeros get altitude over incoming strike, dive bonus still rule :( All others aspect are connected to game magic random numbers lottery.

MrKane -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 2:00:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sangeli quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane Thanks. He had two landings to cover. However I have no clue why he took such risk right now. Auto victory was very much on his mind... And there was intel to suggest that part of the KB was returning for upgrades because of a SigInt report of a CV fleet. Intel ?. I am assuming this is information base on Jocke AAR. If yes please keep it for yourself. There is still chance that game will be continued.

rook749 -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 3:15:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrKane Here is a few information, before we start discus about black magic :) But black magic is a much cooler solution......

GreyJoy -> RE: It's a trap. MrKane(J) vs JocMeister(A) (9/10/2014 3:40:49 PM)
There's no black magic there. Japan had superior quality, superior numbers and superior tactical position. Not a surprise the overall result. The allied SDBs aren't borked at all in 1942. It's just a matter of different factors. As someone else has pointed out, if the Escort does its job (keeping the fighters at bay), the allied SDBs can sink the whole KB. But if the escort isn't good enough (here the number of F4Fs on escort was too small)the CAp will simply ruin the aim of the SDB. Also weather normally has a big part in these battles and luck too. Don't understand, really, why are you all surprised by this result. Honestly Joc shouldn't have dared so much in this strategic situation. We've all gone through these results in our witp career. We know it. Good Play on Tom's part here! Kudos!

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