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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 4:43:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AllenK

"The little tour by the Chinese units was costly for little gain."

I'm not so sure. They diverted a lot of units away from the front and then ...

"On their impulse, the allies are not idle, and indeed the Japanese front seems to lighten up.

The first shot comes from Mao who was helped by a nationalist strike by a Boston, which disorganized a whole section of the front. Emboldenened, Mao launched an attack againss an armored corps and supporting artillery and infantry.

The result breaks the Japanese defense."


Would that have been possible if those units had remained at the front instead of chasing the horses?


It would have been possible. But Mao's troops may succeed now in breaking the Japanese line, which would hardly have been possible before. We'll shortly see if that happens. But possibly, the Chinese might not have even taken the risk of an attack if some Jap troops had not been away chasing gooses...




AllenK -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 5:07:22 PM)

Excellent. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out. Little immediate gain but potentially a theater turning escapade.





yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 5:13:21 PM)

A nasty bug in the port attack routine forced me to replay the combats at least 3 times before I knew what to do. Problem is that when the attacking planes are intercepted and there is enough surprise to avoid the combat, the game just crashes...

So I don't have many screenshots.

The US attacked in 5 areas : Ominato (a bunch of convoys sitting there), Sapporo (some convoys), Niigata (one convoy), Suva (Fidji islands, one OoS cruiser), Rabaul (new Ireland, two OoS transports) but only a poor F6F-3 ill suited to the task.

Only one attack succeeds, in Ominato: all others are avoided through surprise. But it costs 4 convoys...

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July 44, impulse 4




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 7:52:28 PM)

While the Russians advance in mandchuria, avoiding yet needless fights, the Chinese try their luck once again. And succeed beyond hope.

Yamamoto is sent back to visit the emperor in Kyoto, while the city of Sian is recaptured. This puts the whole front out of suply and will force the Japanese to more difficult choices : rescue the west front, facing the Chinese, on the verge of collapse now that it is unsupplied, or rescue Mandchuria ? Possibly a miracle can help both ?

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 7:56:44 PM)

Meanwhile, the western allies are continuing to mop up German units, the Russians by burning offensive upon offensive, the British and American by surrounding and attacking massively surrounded cities.

This works well ; axis powers are losing units at a great speed. More than they can recover in a single turn. Actually, the Germans are now losing many times more than their current, paltry, production (14BP in the previous turn.) Yet, the German army still looks impressive considering the size of the territory they are now defending!

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 8:05:29 PM)

Germany is now much reduced.

It still produces about 14BP per turn with the northern factories (Berlin, Hamburg most notably), but this production shaky: it relies on the baltic convoys, and on the synth oil from the sudeten. Both are now highly vulnerable, and the production might well fall to 4BP before the end of the turn...

Notice the units that were unable to catch up to the allied offensives: the trapped units in the French Jura, from very long ago, the units in and beside Varshaw which were disorganized at the time were they could have fled.

Also note the advancing Russian units in the north: the Russian offensive is advancing faster than the German can pull up their units from the south, which is exceedingly ennoying: there are not enough units to protect the Oder.

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July 44, impulse 4




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 8:09:44 PM)

In China, the frontline has slimmed down. But it should still hold. The Japanese now know that holding China gains little: it will be time to get back to more defensible positions.

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July 44, impulse 4




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 8:10:40 PM)

In Mandchuria, the advance of the Russian units is worrisome.

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July 44, impulse 4




composer99 -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 8:45:18 PM)

Looks like the race to Berlin is well and truly on - although based on the German dispositions the Red Army still looks like it's going to win.




Courtenay -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 9:52:04 PM)

I am confused by the American amphibious invasions in Korea. I don't mean by the strategy, but I see a rules problem.

I do not understand why the Japanese defense strength is zero. Korea is a minor country, so that the notional should be Korean, not Japanese, which means that Seoul is a primary supply source, and it is possible to trace a supply line of unlimited length back to Seoul, so that the strength of the notional should be one. Unless I am making a mistake that I don't see, if the notional's strength was zero, there is a bug. Of course, I have made mistakes before. Does anyone see a reason why the notional's strength should be zero?




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 10:33:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am confused by the American amphibious invasions in Korea. I don't mean by the strategy, but I see a rules problem.

I do not understand why the Japanese defense strength is zero. Korea is a minor country, so that the notional should be Korean, not Japanese, which means that Seoul is a primary supply source, and it is possible to trace a supply line of unlimited length back to Seoul, so that the strength of the notional should be one. Unless I am making a mistake that I don't see, if the notional's strength was zero, there is a bug. Of course, I have made mistakes before. Does anyone see a reason why the notional's strength should be zero?



No, the supply path doesn't exist: it goes throough a straight, and the sea area was uncontested at the time, in enemy control: this blocks the straight as a supply path.




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 10:58:58 PM)

In August 44:

Japan builds:
- 2 inf
- 2 convoys
- 2 Ftr2
- 1 pilot

China builds:
- 1 Ftr2
- 1 mech
- 1 militia

The Commonwealth builds:
- 2 subs (superstructures)
- 2 convoys
- 1 Ftr2
- 3 carrier planes
- 2 Lnd4
- 3 pilots
- 1 mot div
- 2 offensives

The USA build:
- 4 carrier planes
- 1 cruiser (superstructures)
- 1 sub (superstructures)
- 4 pilots
- 1 Ftr3
- 2 Lnd4
- 2 Motorized
- 1 mech div
- 1 supply
- 3 offensives

Russia builds:
- 2 eng div
- 2 motorized
- 2 offensives
- 1 Ftr3
- 1 Lnd3
- 1 mech div

Note that the Commonwealth and USA have build their whole sub force pool. And in addition, they own 3 italian subs...

And in the same way that China doesn't surrender to Japan, Germany doesn't surrender to the USA...




Courtenay -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/4/2014 11:55:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: yvesp


quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am confused by the American amphibious invasions in Korea. I don't mean by the strategy, but I see a rules problem.

I do not understand why the Japanese defense strength is zero. Korea is a minor country, so that the notional should be Korean, not Japanese, which means that Seoul is a primary supply source, and it is possible to trace a supply line of unlimited length back to Seoul, so that the strength of the notional should be one. Unless I am making a mistake that I don't see, if the notional's strength was zero, there is a bug. Of course, I have made mistakes before. Does anyone see a reason why the notional's strength should be zero?



No, the supply path doesn't exist: it goes throough a straight, and the sea area was uncontested at the time, in enemy control: this blocks the straight as a supply path.

Thank you!




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 7:51:22 AM)

As the weather turns sour, the allies turn their attention to Japan.

Indeed, the sheer density of German troops requires room to maneuver (mud prevents that) and successfull ground strikes (not with rain if that can be avoided.)

The USA do intend to extend their beachhead in Korea.

The fastest ships go in the North China sea. Two ships bring reinforcements, putting themeselves at some risk of getting sunk later. But Korea is certainly worth it : if the USSR has its way north in Mandchuria, Seoul might become a secondary supply source linked directly to Europe! No need to maintain a fragile supply convoy line!

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September 44, impulse 1




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 7:52:02 AM)

Meanwhile, sub operations don't stop, but are not exceedingly successful.

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September 44, impulse 1




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 7:52:29 AM)

Seoul falls!
This also cuts all resource flow to Japan! and makes supplying the continental army a nightmare.

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September 44, impulse 1




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 7:53:50 AM)

In the NEI, Padang falls too, for what it is worth...

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September 44, impulse 1




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 11:11:54 AM)

The Japanese have little choice, but even that makes for a hard decision.
Moving the fleet is required : it is necessary to reopen the supply lines to the continent : in good weather, the Chinese might cut through like cheese should they succeed in a ground strike ; and their air power is now up to the task!

The first question is : keep a low profile, send a single convoy and pray for the best ?
The second question is : do something in Korea or consider it utterly lost ?
The third question is : take the risk of meeting the US fleet, which is currently as small as it can be, the slow ships having been left in Brisbane because they could not make it to the 3 box, necessary for ship offensive support.

* question 1 depends on the two others actually
* question 2 : even though sending reinforcements in is likely a lost proposition, Korea cannot be given without more fight: sure, Seoul cannot be recaptured, but there is time to keep the most importan places before the country falls. It is too close to Japan, and looks too much like an unsubmersible aircraft carrier facing Japan to leave it without at least some combats.
* question 3 : moving the fleet to the North China sea seems logical to achieve the previous objective. The 3 box is accessible, but not for the transports, and it cannot be protected by the land base 7 rated fighter ; so the Japanese opt for the 1 box, where everything fits well.

Under these conditions, a fight against the USA should end up as well as possible: the conditions cannot be any better.

This will certainly change very fast: A new loas of 6 carriers arrived this turn in San Diego. 4 are essex class, 2 are exact copies of those that were sunk two years before... All are fast (6 movement rating) and boast modern aircrafts ; one of which is an 8 rated F8F-1.

In addition, one can expect planes to come to Seoul: the US may well also soon have land based fighter support, with ratings of 7 and 8.

Scary.


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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 1:41:45 PM)

Unexpectedly, Koniev launches an offensive in Siberia.
The obvious purpose is to get through the mountains before bad weather, as well as remove Japanese units as fast as they are coming.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 1:42:34 PM)

The first combat goes rather well, despite a loss.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 1:43:12 PM)

The second combat result is not unexpected.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 1:43:58 PM)

The third was certainly more tricky to achieve.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 1:45:46 PM)

Terauchi finds himself a bit alone, and not exceedingly well positioned now.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 2:05:37 PM)

The allies had a difficult choice for choice of impulse.

For the Russians, it was easy : a land move. The side of the offensive was not obvious, but Germany being now more or less broken, and their defenses being still strong and well entranched, there was no hurry to attack them. In contrast, attacking in Mandchuria would open up a road, while waiting would likely soon end up with too many troops to break easily through.

For the USA, it was much less obvious. Bringing in more reinforcments in Korea looked like the thing to do. But with the Japanese fleet around, there was a strong risk of loosing both a transport and the transported units. Finaly, the USA settled on an assault on Germany: getting through the Elbe before winter looked important: unlike Russian troops, US troops would have a rather hard time to pass the river ; being on the other side seemed the thing to do.

For the Commonwealth, things went clear very soon : te US fleet was in bad need of help, being at risk against the Japanese superior forces This meant that the fast carriers had to immediately join, to be later followed by slower ones once the South China sea was patrolled. This meant at least two naval moves. With little else to do on land with only three moves, the Commonwealth settled on a naval move.

Crossing their fingers, the allies passed the turn without a naval battle with the Japanese. Now, they just hope that this holds for the axis impulse : at that time, the US fleet could be joined by 7 more British carriers, that is 11 carrier planes ; enough to tip the balance of any further naval encounter.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 4:16:27 PM)

Once more, the Japanese fleet fails to find the allied fleet.

The Commonwealth takes a combined action, moving it's carriers to the China sea The allies have 21 carriers there, against 18 for the Japanese.

The fleets patrolling there are just enormous and still growing!
The Japanese expect one more carrier ; the USA expect soon 17 (yes) more, in particular as soon as they can get a major port closer than Brisbane. The British may expect 2 more, coming back from Britain with new planes.

That's one reason why the British are hoping along the NEI southern coast: Surabaya is a nice spot that might be accessible. Of course, now the Japanese have seen this. But even though, can they prevent the capture of either Batavia or Surabaya ?


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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 5:12:48 PM)

To the axis dismay, the turn doesn't end (40%, roll of 9) ; worse, the weather improves and is clear in every place that really counts...

The USA and Commonwealth both take a super-combined : too much to do.

And finaly, the much expected but never coming encounter happens!

Both fleet meet in the China Sea.

It doesn't look good to the Japanese, but it could be worse: the allies still have no land based air cover, and some of their ships are carrying vulnerable cargo. The problem will be to reach them ; with an AA of 192, that's not yet done!

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A meeting on September 44, impulse 11, by clear weather




yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 5:20:59 PM)

The air combat looks fairly balanced.

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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 6:08:33 PM)

On the first round, the A6M8 destroys a puny british Swordfish while succeeding their land based P1Y2 to get through.

On the second round, the USA get the first AA result, giving them an edge in the fight by forcing the front fighter out and the British get another Sworfish through.

On the third round, the Japanese defense opens up and a mighty TBF-1 finds its way, while the valiant F6F-5 destroy the second A6M8. The odds are seriously improving for the USA at now +2/-2.

On the third round, a P1Y1 land based naval bomber gets through, while the allies achieve nothing.

On the fourth round, the front land based Japanese fighter, a N1K1-J (shiden) succeeds in forcing the F6F-5 back on its carrier. The odds even up at +1/-1. However, doing this lets the allies destroy the front D3A1 an old model that was not worth much.

On the fifth round, the Japanese fail to stop a rather good Swordfish while the allied fighter cover manages in destroying a second D3A1.

On the sixth round, a third Swordfish of good quality gets shot down, and a third land based G4M1 bomber gets through ; thats an old model, but quite fitting to take the AA shots that are sure to follow.

On the seventh round, the Japanese destroy a SBD-4, and a B5N1 is forced back on its carrier. The fighter cover is still even at +1/-1 for the USA.

On the eight round, the Japanese again succeed in destroying another SBD-4. A B5N1 gets through. The Japanese clearly get lucky shots.

This gets confirmed when the Shiden shoots down the leading F6F-5 on the ninth round, but they have to abort a land based G3M2.

However, on the eleventh round, a mighty Barracuda finds its way to the Japanese ships, while a powerfull B6N2 does the same thing on the Japanese side. The comabt is now even at 0/0.

The Japanese again abort an allied fighter, a SB2C on the twelve's round, while a B5N2 gets through.

The thirteens round is the exact copy of the previous round. Now, the Japanese get a powerfull advantage of +3/-3.

However, a TBF-1 of the latest design still catches the Japanese air cover off guard on the fourteenth round. But the Allied air cover looks quite incompetent as another bomber passes through, a land based B5N2.

It's now the Japanese that look tired on the fifteen's round, as despite their huge advantage, another allied bomber finds its way, a good Swordfish.

The sixteen's round looks better with yet another Swordfish shot down, while the last Japanese bomber, a B5N1, gets its way.

While on the seventeenth the Shiden is very busy killing an SBD-2 that was infiltrating, it forgets its own protection and is destroyed by the leading SBD-5. This removes the sole land based Japanese figher of some quality.

Suddenly, the odds even up at +1/-1 for the Japanese. The fight still goes on as the allies want to pass through their last bomber. This doesn't happen on the eighteen's round, because the leading SBD-5 front fighter, tired from its previous success, has to land back on a carrier.

The Japanese zero still prevents the penetration of the last bomber on the nineteenth round, but it gets shot down by a British Seafire. The odds are +1/-1 in favor of the Japanese.

On the twentieth round, the allies must abort their front Seafire, but the Japanese alos have to abort their leading D4Y2. Because it was of slightly better quality, the odds shrink, but not enough and they still stay at +1/-1.

Everybody seems tired on the twentyfirst round, and nothing happens.

This gets better on the twentysecond round: a Seafire goes down, but Judy, another D4Y2 has to land donw on its carrier after that success. Still one bomber to go!

The twenty third round sees the end of the aerial ballet as the last bomber is forced back.


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yvesp -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 6:11:24 PM)

The US result is poor, and further cut down by a good Japanese flak.
Only 4 bombers get through!

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AllenK -> RE: Global War : a Japanese AAR (10/5/2014 6:12:36 PM)

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