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ryszardsh -> ID function or mission? (8/19/2014 11:45:38 PM)

Maybe I have missed it but a function or mission to "identify" would be useful I think. Was playing a scenario with lots of air traffic and quite a few ships with Opfor mixed in - would have been useful to draw a patrol area, or select (as in the F1 attack function) and tell the assigned assets to identify. Otherwise I have to micro-manage an aircraft, get it to low level to id vessels, match altitude to id an aircraft, etc. Just a request but it seems with the ROE being what they are in real life this is the kindof thing that does happen.

RAS



renders -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/20/2014 11:52:17 AM)

You can:
1- got to the unit menu (right click) ---> Attack -----> "No AI Attack" for selected/all units. In this mode, the unit/noone will fire a shot even if marked as hostile.
or
2- check that in the patrol mission (or side ROE/EMCON) the ROE it's set for : "Engage unknown targets": NO and "attack opportunity targets" : NO. The unknown contat won't be engaged UNTIL it is marked hostile by user or side posture.




Rudd -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/20/2014 1:32:58 PM)

I think just a typical patrol mission will ID unknown contacts.



Randomizer -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/20/2014 2:43:09 PM)

Alternately an intercept mission set to trigger on "Unknown" will scramble the assigned aircraft that will then attempt to close with and identify the bogies.

-C



ThunderCBR -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/20/2014 10:07:17 PM)

Understand the ROE settings, but is an "investigate and move on" mission possible? For example, in the case of an unfriendly (but not hostile) side, units will ID a target but remain in close contact instead of moving to other unidentified targets in the patrol zone. Great if its a CAP remaining in close contact with an unfriendly fighter for example, however I doubt I want my Orion on Sea Control patrol loitering around that unfriendly CG just waiting to be lit up.



ryszardsh -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/20/2014 11:43:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThunderCBR

Understand the ROE settings, but is an "investigate and move on" mission possible? For example, in the case of an unfriendly (but not hostile) side, units will ID a target but remain in close contact instead of moving to other unidentified targets in the patrol zone. Great if its a CAP remaining in close contact with an unfriendly fighter for example, however I doubt I want my Orion on Sea Control patrol loitering around that unfriendly CG just waiting to be lit up.


This is it exactly...

RAS



renders -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/21/2014 8:09:30 AM)

good point. we are all waiting for this feature to come. until now, not possible. You can micromanage and drop contacts already id'ed or manually classify them as friendly/neutral. They will be dropped by the chasing planes



Dimitris -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/21/2014 8:47:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThunderCBR
Understand the ROE settings, but is an "investigate and move on" mission possible? For example, in the case of an unfriendly (but not hostile) side, units will ID a target but remain in close contact instead of moving to other unidentified targets in the patrol zone. Great if its a CAP remaining in close contact with an unfriendly fighter for example, however I doubt I want my Orion on Sea Control patrol loitering around that unfriendly CG just waiting to be lit up.


IIRC aircraft that are on patrol and do not have a suitable weapon for this target will behave as you describe.



ryszardsh -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/21/2014 9:51:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sunburn

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThunderCBR
Understand the ROE settings, but is an "investigate and move on" mission possible? For example, in the case of an unfriendly (but not hostile) side, units will ID a target but remain in close contact instead of moving to other unidentified targets in the patrol zone. Great if its a CAP remaining in close contact with an unfriendly fighter for example, however I doubt I want my Orion on Sea Control patrol loitering around that unfriendly CG just waiting to be lit up.


IIRC aircraft that are on patrol and do not have a suitable weapon for this target will behave as you describe.


;) but when the contact turns out to be hostile - scratch one a/c.....

RAS



ThunderCBR -> RE: ID function or mission? (8/21/2014 10:08:04 PM)

Sunburn, pretty sure you are mostly right on this although I don't think its limited to just not having a suitable weapon. For example, in one particular scenario an Iranian UAV is marked 'unfriendly' and my flight of F-18's are hovering over it waiting for it to turn red I guess, ignoring everything else going on in the patrol zone. Its not a huge bother, but just one of those little things to micromanage.



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