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Kim White -> ATTENTION: AGEOD! ANSWERS NEEDED!! (9/2/2014 12:31:44 AM)

I think it safe to say that most of the people on this forum so far are struggling to get to grips with EAW. Not because it is a bad game - I actually think there is a bloody great game there somewhere - but because you people are so close to the game that you've forgotten just how un-intuitive the interface is.

In your first and ONLY tutorial you actually infer that there are (or, were to be at the time of writing) a series of tutorials.

WHERE ARE THEY? WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE THEM????

Unless you get them out very quickly I think too many people are going to start saying this game is a dog and it will die very quickly (anyone here old enough to remember BATTLECRUISER:3000AD??).

You need to be getting those Tutorials out as a matter of urgency so people can understand the game and start saying NICE things.

So, my question! Again! When will we see those tutorials?
thanks
Kim



tgb -> RE: ATTENTION: AGEOD! ANSWERS NEEDED!! (9/2/2014 12:36:16 AM)

The other tutorials are integrated into the full campaign. Stop shouting and don't get your panties all twisted up like that.



Kim White -> RE: ATTENTION: AGEOD! ANSWERS NEEDED!! (9/2/2014 3:33:36 AM)

TGB
The tutorials need to be in a separate tutorial section, not hidden away in the main campaigns. AGEOD needs to understand that players completely new to your quirky game engine need a lot of hand-holding to grasp how you people have arranged things.

The greater majority of computer games I have ever played (and I've been playing them since 1980) have had decent tutorials in a nice thick manual, or if they haven't, they've had several tutorial games, stepped up in complexity, accessible by a separate menu, that a newbie can play with BEFORE having to launch an actual full-on campaign.

At the very least there should have been an option for the computer to play both sides so the beginner could just sit there and watch how it is done.

I think I have a right to shout and get annoyed, AGEOD has not been very helpful. I hope a patched game will come out with some tutorials where they should be!



Aurelian -> RE: ATTENTION: AGEOD! ANSWERS NEEDED!! (9/2/2014 4:23:02 AM)

Shouting about it will get you nowhere here.

Having said that, you actually get to play the game *and* use the tutorials.

The diplomacy is simple. You have 1 for a major power and four to use on the minors. Click on decision mode to find them.

In the upper right hand side is a display of all the nations. (And those generals you buy are there too.) Pick a diplomat, and the nation boxes will turn green to show where you can put them.

You get to find all this out in Late August 1914. The next turn, IIRC, you get the tutorials on getting generals.



zakblood -> RE: ATTENTION: AGEOD! ANSWERS NEEDED!! (9/2/2014 6:35:18 AM)

what the tutorials don't teach or say, the manual does, for almost everything, some stuff is still a mystery but most are getting there



loki100 -> RE: ATTENTION: AGEOD! ANSWERS NEEDED!! (9/2/2014 7:09:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kim White


I think I have a right to shout and get annoyed, AGEOD has not been very helpful. I hope a patched game will come out with some tutorials where they should be!


AGEOD made a decision that the tutorials around raising units etc were best presented in the context of you actually playing the game. Now you can agree or disagree with that decision, but that is where the tutorials are, shouting doesn't really alter things.

The stand alone tutorial does a good enough job at helping with the generic AGEOD stuff - how to move units, stances etc - which are the common barrier to those completely new to AGE based games. The intent is do that, and then ease yourself into the game. Pick up the more specific stuff for EAW in context.

Beyond that, ask questions, people with experience either of the AGE system in general or EAW in particular will gladly try to help. You may find it more convenient to open an account with AGEOD, or at least keep an eye on their own forums, as most of the more experienced AGE players tend to have stuck to that.



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