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Walker84 -> RE: Fully loaded TF sleeps with the fish (9/21/2014 2:42:06 PM)
Loved the title of Operation 'So Rong'! Great AAR, I am especially enjoying reading the rationale behind your various moves then finding out how they unfold. I have also mainly played as Japan in recent years and I think it provides a good insight into how you can throw some annoying obstacles in the path of the advancing Japanese juggernaut. It was unfortunate that Force Z was caught like that but some of your other plays will certainly have impeded your opponent's plans by forcing him to adopt a more cautious approach. Where transports have been sunk, he will also need to reassign scarce assets to secure objectives that he could have been forgiven for thinking were in the bag already. quote: My take on Kido Butai: I think my oponent made a mistake on dividing it into 4-CV TF to PH; 2-CV to Malaya. It simply lost the "death start" overpowering/ overkilling capability. PH attack was in particular toothless: No ships sunk; 2 BB will require extensive repair... That is it. Force Z was caught with the pants down, and still there is a good chance no ships will be lost. Once I play Japan, I think I will go either full KB or maybe detaching one CV max to Malaya/ DEI. Afterwards, KB needs to work together; maybe in 2 mutually supporting TFs, that will be fine, but never to far away one from the other +1. In my current game I detached one CV to Malaya / DEI for an enhanced Mini-KB and found this provided more than enough flexibility to cover my invasions. In fact I have only lost about 3 x AKs to Allied SCTFs having taken Singkawang,Davao, Manado, Ambon and Sorong. Force Z did achieve a night time bombardment of Singkawang that damaged the port and airfield but, now that I am deploying Netties in each location, the Allies will need to use naval forces with more caution, especially in daylight.

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Operation: this is so rong (9/21/2014 3:17:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard III Repulse and POW rack up system damage fast at just Mission Speed. If you need to run them at High Speed they go right into the red and speed falls off and they slow down. I will follow your advice; change them to "mission speed"; there is no rush and it will be better to fight at daytime anyway

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Fully loaded TF sleeps with the fish (9/21/2014 4:01:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Walker84 In my current game I detached one CV to Malaya / DEI for an enhanced Mini-KB and found this provided more than enough flexibility to cover my invasions. In fact I have only lost about 3 x AKs to Allied SCTFs having taken Singkawang,Davao, Manado, Ambon and Sorong. Force Z did achieve a night time bombardment of Singkawang that damaged the port and airfield but, now that I am deploying Netties in each location, the Allies will need to use naval forces with more caution, especially in daylight. Thanks Yes, one if enough... some uber aggressive players even do no PH at all; but I am too historically oriented to try that. As long you keep the mini-KB outside torpedo range, you are fine, Zeroes will mop the floor with anything you throw them, 2 turns ago, I lost 30 Buffalos and 15 Vildebeest, trying to break Mersing's CAP

Jorge_Stanbury -> Ryujo almost got torpedoed (9/21/2014 4:37:44 PM)
Sub update Yesterday's turn didn't have a lot in terms of hits: he sunk one small AP; I sunk one AK That said, I had a close call with Ryujo: yesterday I spotted him and tried to set up a trap with 5 submarines (4 Dutch) KIX caught him, but it didn't work out as the torpedo missed. Still a good scare for PresterJohn [image]local://upfiles/41287/3A915DA5CF5B4BF0B2CB8CDF30B7B8E4.jpg[/image] Then he disappeared. he was moving on direction to Balikpapan. thus some important points: - if he keeps close to Balikpapan, next turn I will have the 2 raiding TFs ready (Dutch/ American). - Ryujo's spotted escort is light (only CLs) [:)] - Subs are patrolling nearby, I hope they get him! If he wisely decides that Balikpapan's water are too risky; then it is still good, as I don't want him there yet.

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Ryujo almost got torpedoed (9/21/2014 8:13:02 PM)
Final thoughts on operation So Rong I reviewed again the combat replay, and a search plane "spotted and hit" CA Kako; thus I believe the starting TF "Guam cover force" should be there. If that is the case, it will be an interesting fight; 4 CAs mean trouble; but as long as the "long lances" don't get lucky, Repulse should have no trouble with the 20cm guns Dangers,in ascending order: Submarines: low risk, as this is not a typical hunting ground Zuiho/ Hosho: I don't know their exact location; I think they are near, but I also believe they depleted torpedoes.. we will see tomorrow Battle itself: I am pitting 1 BC vs potentially 4 CAs; that is going to be a tough fight Long lance torpedoes: The greatest threat; one lucky hit, and Repulse is done The main reason I am going forward with this is location; lack of shipyards close to Sorong Repulse's guns can do a lot of damage, thus any damaged CA will require extensive "AR" time at Babeldao plus a dangerous trip later on to the HI or Pescadores. At the very least, we are talking on missing action for the most critical critical months. -

IdahoNYer -> RE: Ryujo almost got torpedoed (9/21/2014 10:15:41 PM)
Repulse did well for me, hope she does as well for you off Sorong!

Jorge_Stanbury -> Doorman encounters mini-KB (9/23/2014 1:38:45 AM)
Very interesting turn; first of all, operation "This is So Rong" didn't yield anything as the enemy escaped.... My detection level was 8.. hum..[:-] Force Z, or better to say, the remaining half of Force Z, will withdraw south. It is safe to say Force Z would had been at great risk had I withdraw it to Makassar as I was planning to do as I would had gotten into mini-KB range Reason being my opponent did a very bold move. As I mentioned in post #64, Mini KB was spotted NE of Balikpapan; thus I moved Doorman's Dutch TF + the 3 least damaged US DDs to a position just SE of Balikpapan hoping to catch him next turn. However, things turn out completely different; he maintained course SE and both TF encountered at 66,100 : SE of Balikpapan. [image]local://upfiles/41287/F343FD9FEF564A9FBEBB602BE9F80089.jpg[/image] Nachi and particularly Haguro rocked; with 2 or 3 deck armor hits on the CL and one particularly nasty penetration hit on Wittr de With; he might end sinking next turn No hits scored on any Japanese ship [:@] I guess it could had been worst; Tokyo Rose reported that I lost 2 carriers, one battleship and numerous cruisers and destroyers [8\|] Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 66,100, Range 24,000 Yards Japanese Ships (Good to know the exact composition of mini-KB) CVL Ryujo CVL Zuiho CVE Hosho CA Haguro CA Nachi CL Tama DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze DD Amatsukaze DD Hatsuharu DD Nenohi DD Hatsushima DD Wakaba Allied Ships CL Java, Shell hits 1 CL De Ruyter CL Tromp, Shell hits 2 DD Bulmer DD Whipple DD Parrott DD Piet Hein DD Kortenaer DD Evertsen DD Witte de With, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Van Nes DD Banckert DD Van Ghent Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards Japanese TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 24,000 yards... CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 24,000 yards CVL Zuiho , CVL Ryujo , CVE Hosho screened from combat - escorted by DD Hatsushima , DD Hatsukaze CA Haguro engages DD Van Nes at 24,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Witte de With at 24,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Evertsen at 24,000 yards Range increases to 26,000 yards CVL Zuiho screened from combat CA Haguro engages DD Witte de With at 26,000 yards Range increases to 27,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL Tromp at 27,000 yards CA Nachi engages CL Tromp at 27,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Van Nes at 27,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Whipple at 27,000 yards Range closes to 26,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL De Ruyter at 26,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL Java at 26,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Van Nes at 26,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Witte de With at 26,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Parrott at 26,000 yards CVL Zuiho , CVL Ryujo , CVE Hosho screened from combat - escorted by DD Hatsushima , DD Amatsukaze , DD Oyashio CA Nachi engages CL Java at 26,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL Java at 26,000 yards Range increases to 28,000 yards CVL Zuiho , CVL Ryujo , CVE Hosho screened from combat - escorted by DD Wakaba , DD Hatsushima , DD Hatsuharu CA Haguro engages DD Witte de With at 28,000 yards Range increases to 29,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL Tromp at 29,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL De Ruyter at 29,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Van Ghent at 29,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Banckert at 29,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Witte de With at 29,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Evertsen at 29,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Parrott at 29,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Bulmer at 29,000 yards Range increases to 30,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL Tromp at 30,000 yards CA Haguro engages CL De Ruyter at 30,000 yards CL Java engages CA Nachi at 30,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Van Ghent at 30,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Banckert at 30,000 yards CA Nachi engages DD Witte de With at 30,000 yards CA Haguro engages DD Parrott at 30,000 yards Task forces break off...

Jorge_Stanbury -> Don Esteban met the Twisted Sisters (9/23/2014 2:31:22 AM)
This turn, not only did I find mini KB... [:D] Kaga/ Akagi spotted! [image]local://upfiles/41287/761223D2F507410CB65F570AEC83B3C6.jpg[/image] Look how light is the escort of the most critical IJN TF [X(] and my Dutch submarines so close [:'(] A pitty I can only throw them CLs and DDs next turn... maybe I will get a lucky hit [:'(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Sampit at 54,97, Range 30,000 Yards Japanese Ships CV Kaga CV Akagi CA Chokai CL Abukuma DD Sagiri DD Amagiri DD Akebono DD Sazanami Allied Ships xAP Don Esteban Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards Japanese TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 25,000 yards... CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards Range increases to 30,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat There was little to no naval action last turn, but the air strikes went very well for the Allies... I will expand soon

Jorge_Stanbury -> Twisted Sisters' punishment at Batavia (9/23/2014 12:55:04 PM)
As said in the previous post; my opponent sent Kaga/Akagi to the Java sea and a full Mini-KB to the Makassar straight. This is a summary of the better than expected air strike's results. [:)] In summary Kaga/ Akagi launched 2 naval attacks: one vs. RAN cruisers on Batavia, one vs. a small ASW destroyer patrol Zeroes didn't launch against Batavia; and Dutch Buffalos had a field day [:D] Mini KB also launched 2 naval attacks one vs. Doormans Dutch TF; the second one vs. ships on Balikpapan. Although Zeroes were escorting; Balikpapan's CAP was amazing, managing to down many Kates [:D] Total loses according to my tally are: Japan: Zeroes: 1 destroyed. from mini-KB Vals: 6 destroyed; 3 damaged B5N2: 2 destroyed; 5 damaged B5N1: 5 destroyed; 5 damaged Lots of elite pilots lost [:)] Allies: PG Tulsa and YO-42 [:D] ... these the slowest and last members of the "Manila exodus"... YO-41 survived!! Combat reports Morning Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 49,98 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 5 D3A1 Val x 9 Allied aircraft B-339D x 11 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships DD Isis CL Danae Aircraft Attacking: 2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 2-VI.G.V with B-339D (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Semarang at 54,98 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 22 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged Allied Ships DD Electra DD Express Aircraft Attacking: 22 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 65,99 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 7 A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N1 Kate x 12 Japanese aircraft losses B5N1 Kate: 5 damaged B5N1 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak Allied Ships CL De Ruyter DD Banckert DD Van Ghent Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 5000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N1 Kate x 12 Allied aircraft B-339D x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N1 Kate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships PG Tulsa, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk YO-42, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk YO-41 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp CAP engaged: 1-VI.G.V with B-339D (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Twisted Sisters' punishment at Batavia (9/24/2014 12:03:18 AM)
This is the situation before the starting of tomorrow's Operation "Reckless". It basically means sending all available submarines to the 2 choke points that Mini KB and Kaga/ Akagi can take I am lucky last turn I sent all my Mersing hunters to Singapore to refuel and rearm; so of the 14 submarines hunting Akagi/ Kaga, 8 are very close and in great conditions [image]local://upfiles/41287/A79E330377DE463E8A269BF1994443E3.jpg[/image]

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Fully loaded TF sleeps with the fish (9/25/2014 12:29:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Walker84 Loved the title of Operation 'So Rong'! Great AAR, I am especially enjoying reading the rationale behind your various moves then finding out how they unfold. I have also mainly played as Japan in recent years and I think it provides a good insight into how you can throw some annoying obstacles in the path of the advancing Japanese juggernaut. It was unfortunate that Force Z was caught like that but some of your other plays will certainly have impeded your opponent's plans by forcing him to adopt a more cautious approach. Where transports have been sunk, he will also need to reassign scarce assets to secure objectives that he could have been forgiven for thinking were in the bag already. quote: My take on Kido Butai: I think my oponent made a mistake on dividing it into 4-CV TF to PH; 2-CV to Malaya. It simply lost the "death start" overpowering/ overkilling capability. PH attack was in particular toothless: No ships sunk; 2 BB will require extensive repair... That is it. Force Z was caught with the pants down, and still there is a good chance no ships will be lost. Once I play Japan, I think I will go either full KB or maybe detaching one CV max to Malaya/ DEI. Afterwards, KB needs to work together; maybe in 2 mutually supporting TFs, that will be fine, but never to far away one from the other +1. In my current game I detached one CV to Malaya / DEI for an enhanced Mini-KB and found this provided more than enough flexibility to cover my invasions. In fact I have only lost about 3 x AKs to Allied SCTFs having taken Singkawang,Davao, Manado, Ambon and Sorong. Force Z did achieve a night time bombardment of Singkawang that damaged the port and airfield but, now that I am deploying Netties in each location, the Allies will need to use naval forces with more caution, especially in daylight. Look what I found on the book "Kaigun": a new storm of controversy broke when Yamamoto insisted that the Hawaii operation employ all Japan's fleet carriers then in commision. He based his views on the map exercises aboard the Nagato, which used six carriers; the results with six carriers were judged far more impressive than with only four carriers

Walker84 -> RE: Fully loaded TF sleeps with the fish (9/25/2014 12:42:53 PM)
Interesting - I guess the analogy is that we all get to be Yamamoto when making this type of decision! I would certainly consider 5 carriers the minimum to go in to PH with or there's not much point. That said, according to the intel I still don't think I managed to sink very much outright in my last outing. I try to play a fairly historical game and its always interesting to gain these types of insights. Good luck with Operation Reckless!

Jorge_Stanbury -> no targets on the 1st day (9/25/2014 6:21:32 PM)
I just got the turn, so more to come soon... It didn't work the 1st day; Japanese destroyers were very alert, so I had multiple ASW attacks, and attacks. [:(] I will keep pushing; I want to keep pressing those CVs.

Mike McCreery -> RE: Twisted Sisters' punishment at Batavia (9/25/2014 6:36:35 PM)
Those subs in 41 should be engaged in operation pointless :P I hate dud torpedoes!!

Jorge_Stanbury -> Yesterday's actions (9/25/2014 9:49:10 PM)
Last turn there were 2 very interesting naval actions: The 1st was a British naval bombardment on Pt Blair; captured by paratroops a couple turns ago; I betted he was not ready in Victoria Point to do anything about it, and the paradrop was a bluff... so far I think it payed off, we will see next turn Night Naval bombardment of Port Blair at 46,58 Allied Ships CA Exeter CA Cornwall CL Caledon CL Glasgow CL Ceres CL Dauntless CL Enterprise Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 19 Runway hits 48 Port hits 21 Port supply hits 5 Then, the Battle of the Makassar strait: as mentioned before, last turn the Dutch fleet had a brief encounter with mini-KB. Today the cover force came to play and the result were 4 battles that took the entire day... I like how aggresive Doorman can be: end result: CL Java lost to torpedoes CL Tromp and DD Bancjkert heavily damaged DD Umikaze likely sunk DD Yukikaze heavy damaged This is combat summary of the final 4th battle; I have some subs that will do some recon just in case he is lucky and the 2 DDs survive Day Time Surface Combat, near Donggala at 70,96, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Myoko CL Nagara CL Yura DD Yukikaze, heavy fires DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 1 DD Umikaze, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships CL De Ruyter DD Bulmer DD Whipple DD Parrott, on fire DD Piet Hein DD Kortenaer DD Evertsen DD Van Nes DD Van Ghent Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 21,000 yards Range closes to 19,000 yards... CA Myoko engages DD Van Ghent at 19,000 yards CL Nagara engages CL De Ruyter at 19,000 yards CL Nagara engages DD Whipple at 19,000 yards Range closes to 16,000 yards DD Van Nes engages DD Tokitsukaze at 16,000 yards DD Van Ghent engages DD Kawakaze at 16,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Piet Hein at 16,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Whipple at 16,000 yards DD Bulmer engages DD Tokitsukaze at 16,000 yards Range closes to 13,000 yards CA Myoko engages CL De Ruyter at 13,000 yards CL Yura engages CL De Ruyter at 13,000 yards DD Van Nes engages DD Kawakaze at 13,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Kawakaze at 13,000 yards DD Piet Hein engages DD Kawakaze at 13,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Parrott at 13,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Bulmer at 13,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Van Nes at 11,000 yards DD Parrott engages DD Umikaze at 11,000 yards DD Van Nes engages DD Yukikaze at 11,000 yards DD Whipple engages DD Yukikaze at 11,000 yards DD Bulmer engages DD Kawakaze at 11,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards DD Kawakaze engages DD Van Nes at 9,000 yards DD Van Nes engages DD Umikaze at 9,000 yards DD Van Ghent engages DD Kawakaze at 9,000 yards DD Whipple engages DD Tokitsukaze at 9,000 yards DD Bulmer engages DD Umikaze at 9,000 yards DD Piet Hein engages DD Tokitsukaze at 9,000 yards DD Yukikaze engages DD Parrott at 9,000 yards DD Whipple engages DD Umikaze at 9,000 yards DD Bulmer engages DD Umikaze at 9,000 yards Task forces break off...

Jorge_Stanbury -> Malaya (9/25/2014 10:10:47 PM)
This is the status for Malaya: Singapore is isolated. But all troops, except 3 small LCUs, were able to escape to Singapore These 3 LCUs will move to railroad hexes to slow down and deny the use of strategic movement One Australian brigade is in Johore Bahru. it is already 80% prepared, so I decided to keep it there as speed bump Troops at Mersing/ Kluong are around 1 division max. He is not ready yet to try to assault it Fort Level is at L2 and 41% to L3... He is not bombing yet, thus I am confident fort level will be at least L3 or even L4 by the time he starts. Daily unopposed Japanese "sweeps" over Singapore... from time to time I will put everybody in 100% CAP to see if I can catch bombers. Last turn I bombed Mersing's port; I sunk one previosly damaged *AK and damaged the port a bit. Tomorrow I will send the bombers to Kluong to hit the airport. Singkawang is resisting!!! [:)] he assaulted it with fewer troop and supplies than required. He failed 3 times in capturing it. But that said, last turn he sent another TF so it won't hold a lot longer. [image]local://upfiles/41287/A0D092819515459184C8721C5DB2DA04.jpg[/image]

Jorge_Stanbury -> DEI (9/25/2014 10:24:46 PM)
in the DEI: he has only captured Sorong and Manado, which I am bombing daily (airport). After an aggresive defense that includes: a couple of nasty, costly ambushes and making the Mini-KB + cover run away in panic, I think he is pacing his offensive a lot more cautious than before! In the PI: He chose Aparri instead of Vigan, he is following an eastern PI offensive. he just captured Bayombong last turn. On the western Luzon, I still have Vigan and SFernando. South: he assaulted both Mauban and Legaspi. I expect him to reach Manila in around 3 days He also assaulted Palawan and Panay. Nothing yet in Mindanao... and my B-17s appreciate it [;)] NoPac: He assaulted Amchitka last turn. I don't know yet what level of commitment he is planning there; I will send patrols to check it. And until I know the exact location of the 4-CV KB, I won't react to it

Jorge_Stanbury -> another dog day for Akagi :) (9/26/2014 2:37:14 AM)
I just got the combat replay; turn coming back sometime tomorrow. Overall, a quiet turn, with no real surface combat and little success/ failure in terms of submarines (1 ship torpedoed each side) Japan keeps its advance unhindered; in this turn they captures Singkawang and landed the 33 division, yes a full division [X(], on Palembang. thus it will fail quickly tomorrow. b]Mine warfare Both Singkawang and Palembang were heavily mined in the previous turns, but I did not notice any effect or any attempt to minesweep before landings [8\|] I guess mine warfare effectiveness will be one of my first questions to PresterJohn once the game is over. Moving over to better news; I setup my Singapore Buffalos on CAP; and even though I got heavily punished by Zeroes, Oscars, etc. Still some manage to be in the right place at the right time: Akagi launched 22 Kates and 22 Vals (no Zeroes [:D] ) to hunt my local minesweeping flotilla at Singapore [:D] Results were amazing; according to my tally taken at the combat replay: Kates: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged Vals: 12 destroyed [&o], 7 damaged. Of course I understand not all damages were to individual planes, and some double counting is in place. Still I would guess at least 2 or 3 additional operation losses. This is the second time this happen (1st was over Batavia if you remember); thus I think the capabilities of the almighty KB are slowly eroding... these elite pilots are almost impossible to replace [image]local://upfiles/41287/7E02F653CBA64CC089115C2FB2CF532D.jpg[/image] forgot to mention my losses were: HDML 1063 AMc Klias AMc Jarak AMc Rahman HDML 1062 AMc Gemas [:D] [:D] [:D][:D] Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 25 D3A1 Val x 22 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 16 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships HDML 1063, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk AMc Klias, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk AMc Jarak, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk AMc Rahman, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk HDML P 10 HDML 1062, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk AMc Gemas, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: No.27 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 17000. Raid is overhead No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMc Jarak

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: another dog day for Akagi :) (9/27/2014 2:46:42 AM)
At last some results from the mining campaign: DD Shirayuki Enemy ship sunk Sunk by M Mk IID Mine at 51,82 near Mersing so Mersing's minefield yielded some results Lets wait and see if Palembang and Singkawang got any lucky hit. Minefields certainly didn't stop or slow down the offensive, This is the (very depressing) list of bases lost.. too many in only 12 turns Kweiteh Owner changed Lost base Major Wake Island Owner changed Lost base Major Tuguegarao Owner changed Lost base Major Brunei Owner changed Lost base Major Miri Owner changed Lost base Major Manus Owner changed Lost base Major Langkawi Owner changed Lost base Major Guam Owner changed Lost base Major Legaspi Owner changed Lost base Major Calayan Owner changed Lost base Major San Jose Owner changed Lost base Major Taytay Owner changed Lost base Major Victoria Point Owner changed Lost base Major Kuantan Owner changed Lost base Major Kuching Owner changed Lost base Major Port Blair Owner changed Lost base Major Aitape Owner changed Lost base Major Manado Owner changed Lost base Major Hollandia Owner changed Lost base Major Dumaguete Owner changed Lost base Major Mersing Owner changed Lost base Major Hansa Bay Owner changed Lost base Major Mauban Owner changed Lost base Major Ocean Island Owner changed Lost base Major Laoag Owner changed Lost base Major Naga Owner changed Lost base Major Boac Owner changed Lost base Major Kavieng Owner changed Lost base Major Sorong Owner changed Lost base Major Sidate Owner changed Lost base Major Batangas Owner changed Lost base Major Bayombong Owner changed Lost base Major Kluong Owner changed Lost base Major Alor Star Owner changed Lost base Major Taiping Owner changed Lost base Major Hong Kong Owner changed Lost base Major Umboi Island Owner changed Lost base Major Amchitka Island Owner changed Lost base Major Babuyan Owner changed Lost base Major Georgetown Owner changed Lost base Major Tarawa Owner changed Lost base Major Singkawang Owner changed Lost base Major

Jorge_Stanbury -> air losses (9/27/2014 2:51:03 AM)
And air losses so far (12 turns) Turn 7: Mersing landing. Zero pilots (from Akagi/ Kaga) massacred Singapore's Buffalos and Vildebeest. While Nells got slaugtered by AA Turn 10: Akagi/ Kaga non escorted raid at Batavia Turn 12: Akagi/ Kaga non escorted raid at Singapore [image]local://upfiles/41287/AFD1B337C81D40C497040D1337DAC4AC.jpg[/image]

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: air losses (9/30/2014 1:21:17 AM)
The last turns had been great on the air, horrendous on land and sea Malaya/ Sumatra/ North Borneo: Japan is advance very quickly. Palembang fell last turn... he landed a full division; I had less than one regiment. No engineers in DBB-C meant he got it without any damage [:@] On Mersing, Palembang and Singkawang, other than a couple ships sunk and potentially more damaged; his invasions had been succesfull. I had very poor luck with the submarines in the last turn. with one subchaser sunk [:@] a miss against a big AP and many, too many, ASW attacks Singapore is safe for the time being. I was able to evacuate to Singapore almost every unit that started on Malaya. Asault value of Singapore is at 795. Air war is the only good news: During yesterday turn, my Singapore' AA and Buffalos got unescorted bombers [;)], according to the tracker, 27 Sally's and 7 Lilly went down. More according to the game's air losses screen, but I guess that might be inflated. These losses will freak him out; and he might avoid bombing Singapore for the time being. I will certainly reach level 3 next turn, and I hope to be close to L4 by the time he assaults. He also lost some Vals and Kates in the last 2 turns attacking a RN TF of cruisers I left there on Singapore on purpose. The idea is to attract these carrier based raids to Singapore. I know he depleted torpedoes, so I am fine getting bombed as long as he suffers some operational or AA loses on his elite carrier force. Being in Singapore means that any bomb damage will be fixed in a couple weeks shipyard time max. I am sure I can hold Singapore for at least 2 weeks [image]local://upfiles/41287/88E1345001184528A8E145436C038727.jpg[/image] Submarine warfare: In the 2 last turns I have lost: AO Platte [:@] I had it with 4 DDs... I guess they were not too alert [:-] AKL Lahaina, unescorted CL Tromp, this was a mercy kill, I got 5 messages of heavy flooding before meeting the Japanese sub DD Phelps [8\|] WTF!! he was doing ASW... this is the first time I have seen a DD hit by a torpedo Then I have 2 big APs torpedoed, but not lost yet Japanese losses to submarines: Sc Ch1 [8\|] that is it[&:] he had moved his fleets through all possible choke points infested with submarines, Dutch submarines, and nothing [8\|]

Jorge_Stanbury -> Rabaul (9/30/2014 1:36:11 AM)
I had an interesting turn on the Solomons, so he did a small invasion to Rabaul on Dec 19. situation was : - I had 2 TFs ready for counterstrike; one on Gasmata and another one on Buna I was somehow smelling a trap, so I sent the one on Buna on direction SW (to Deboyne island). the one on Gasmata was too close to withdraw, so I ordered it to move to Rabaul, with Pt Moresby as home base, Notice search showed nothing on that turn. [image]local://upfiles/41287/F5C25510834D4C75A4D4923659517D09.jpg[/image]

Jorge_Stanbury -> Rabaul was a trap (9/30/2014 1:55:44 AM)
When my TF reached Rabaul, it found a BB TF. Yamashiro didn't shine at all, and the battle was a draw. Moreover, DD Kikuzuki received 3 nice 8' hits... with some luck it might sink both Kitakami and Kinugasa received penetration hits; they won't sink, but will need repairs Night Time Surface Combat, near Rabaul at 106,125, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro CA Aoba CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2 DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 3 DD Yuzuki DD Sawakaze DD Yukaze Allied Ships CA Louisville, Shell hits 4 CL Achilles CL Adelaide DD Le Triomphant Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 0% moonlight: 3,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards... Range closes to 8,000 yards... Range closes to 6,000 yards... Range closes to 4,000 yards... Range closes to 2,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards Pierce U. crosses the 'T' BB Yamashiro engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards CA Louisville engages CA Kinugasa at 2,000 yards CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards CL Kitakami engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards DD Yukaze engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards CA Louisville engages DD Kikuzuki at 2,000 yards BB Yamashiro engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 2,000 yards CA Louisville engages CL Kitakami at 2,000 yards Range increases to 8,000 yards BB Yamashiro engages CL Adelaide at 8,000 yards CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards CL Kitakami engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards CA Louisville engages DD Yukaze at 8,000 yards DD Sawakaze engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards CA Louisville engages DD Kikuzuki at 8,000 yards Task forces break off... then the trap... KB arrived [X(] [image]local://upfiles/41287/4505C2BAFED34E838DE72A97227A263A.jpg[/image] Morning Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 105,130 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 44 B5N2 Kate x 15 D3A1 Val x 18 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships CA Louisville, Bomb hits 2 CL Achilles, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1 CL Adelaide Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 105,130 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 44 B5N2 Kate x 18 D3A1 Val x 26 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 2 damaged Allied Ships CA Louisville, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Achilles, Bomb hits 1 DD Le Triomphant Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Adelaide CL Adelaide sunk; I guess not a great loss, as it was really slow (cruise speed 12knots); the rest survived in a much better shape than what I was expecting. CA Lousville surprisingly low damage considering he got 4 high caliber shots, and 3 250 kg bombs: Sys(27) Flood (8) Eng (11) Fires (4) CL Achilles ate a torpedo, so it is at risk. Sys(22) Flood (35) Eng (6) Fires (0) We will see how this ends tomorrow. They are set to run at full speed to Australia... The same for ships on Pt Moresby.. I cancelled all TFs unloading; and everybody will run to the south

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Rabaul was a trap (9/30/2014 2:20:26 AM)
He sent a token force to Rabaul; thus, predictably he failed to capture it Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 1935 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 63 Defending force 3199 troops, 21 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 52 Japanese adjusted assault: 24 Allied adjusted defense: 183 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 1) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), morale(-) experience(-) Attacker: leaders(-) Japanese ground losses: 94 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: Maizuru 1st SNLF Defending units: B Coy/NG Rifles Lark Force Rabaul Base Force Question: Should I try a shock attack? with 1-to-7 against odds, his disruption is probably very high... if the shock fails, it will mean nothing as Rabaul is going to fall in a couple turn anyway, the real invasion force is probably going to arrive in the next few turns

BBfanboy -> RE: Rabaul was a trap (9/30/2014 8:19:06 AM)
His AV only dropped by 7 max (some squads may recover by next turn), and his AV is still more than yours. Attacking will give him the advantage of terrain and take away your forts. I would sit tight and make him come to me. It will cost him more that way and delay his taking the base.

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Rabaul was a trap (9/30/2014 11:59:56 AM)
You are certainly right... but it is too late... turn was sent; I am waiting to get the results. So far the land war had been a collection of disasters. Still it will be minor, [;)] I already spotted a big invasion TF.. this time probably the real one.... he has 4 fleet CVs, at least one, probably 2 BBs covering... Rabaul is lost Even Pt. Moresby can be taken easily if he wants it, I stopped all unloadings (I had 2 brigades just starting to disembark, plus supply and fuel. Everybody is running south

Jorge_Stanbury -> All quiet in the front (9/30/2014 7:00:36 PM)
This is the slowest turn of the war so far. No more bombings on Singapore; I think yesterday's slaughter of Lillies/ Sallies was too much for Steve [:D] A submarine found this TF on the Makassar straight close to Donggala: CA Kako CA Furutaka CL Oi DD Yakaze DD Shiokaze DD Uzuki DD Yugao DD Numakaze DD Namikaze And I had a RN TF with a very similar composition close... maybe 3 or 4 hexes...but nothing happened. It would had been interesting to watch. Submarine warfare: No Japanese submarine incidents [:)] and only one succesfull Allied attack: APD Aoi was torpedoed with some unlucky passengers onboard! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Muntok at 52,89 Japanese Ships APD Aoi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PB Eiko Maru Allied Ships SS KXI, hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled SS KXI launches 2 torpedoes at APD Aoi KXI bottoming out .... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru attacking submerged sub .... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Eiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub Rabaul was bombarded: Night Naval bombardment of Rabaul at 106,125 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro CA Kinugasa CA Aoba CL Kitakami DD Yukaze DD Sawakaze DD Yuzuki Allied ground losses: 104 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 12 Port hits 5 Port supply hits 3 BB Yamashiro firing at Rabaul CA Kinugasa firing at Rabaul CA Aoba firing at Rabaul CL Kitakami firing at Lark Force DD Yukaze firing at Rabaul DD Sawakaze firing at Rabaul DD Yuzuki firing at Rabaul and as foreseen by BBfanBoy, my shock assault was not a success Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 2869 troops, 17 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 48 Defending force 1878 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 56 Allied adjusted assault: 23 Japanese adjusted defense: 35 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-) Attacker: shock(+), morale(-) Japanese ground losses: 59 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 156 casualties reported Squads: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: B Coy/NG Rifles Lark Force Rabaul Base Force Defending units: Maizuru 1st SNLF

Jorge_Stanbury -> Repulse ate two torps (10/2/2014 1:58:20 AM)
Another turn; key highlights: - A second night battle on Makassar; DD Nokaze sunk, and who would say, by a torpedo. He didn't know Repulse was there, otherwise he would had brought more firepower. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 65,100, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Furutaka, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Kako CL Oi DD Uzuki DD Shiokaze DD Yakaze DD Nokaze, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Namikaze DD Numakaze, Shell hits 1 DD Yugao Allied Ships BC Repulse, Shell hits 2 CL Danae, Shell hits 1 CL Mauritius DD Tenedos DD Electra DD Encounter DD Express DD Isis DD Jupiter Reduced sighting due to 7% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 7% moonlight: 4,000 yards Range closes to 15,000 yards... Range closes to 9,000 yards... Range closes to 5,000 yards... Range closes to 3,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 3,000 yards Morishita, Nobue crosses the 'T' BC Repulse engages CA Furutaka at 3,000 yards CA Furutaka engages BC Repulse at 3,000 yards CA Furutaka engages CL Danae at 3,000 yards DD Jupiter engages DD Yugao at 3,000 yards DD Isis engages DD Yugao at 3,000 yards DD Namikaze engages DD Isis at 3,000 yards DD Nokaze engages DD Isis at 3,000 yards DD Jupiter engages DD Yakaze at 3,000 yards DD Shiokaze engages DD Jupiter at 3,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards CL Danae engages CA Kako at 2,000 yards CL Danae engages CA Furutaka at 2,000 yards CL Danae engages CL Oi at 2,000 yards DD Yugao engages DD Isis at 2,000 yards DD Numakaze engages DD Isis at 2,000 yards DD Nokaze sunk by DD Express at 2,000 yards DD Electra engages DD Yugao at 2,000 yards Range increases to 5,000 yards CA Kako engages BC Repulse at 5,000 yards CA Furutaka engages CL Mauritius at 5,000 yards CL Danae engages CA Furutaka at 5,000 yards DD Yugao engages DD Jupiter at 5,000 yards DD Numakaze engages DD Isis at 5,000 yards DD Namikaze engages DD Isis at 5,000 yards DD Yakaze engages DD Isis at 5,000 yards DD Shiokaze engages DD Jupiter at 5,000 yards DD Uzuki engages DD Isis at 5,000 yards Range increases to 8,000 yards CL Danae engages CA Kako at 8,000 yards CA Furutaka engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards CL Oi engages CL Danae at 8,000 yards DD Uzuki engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards DD Numakaze engages DD Isis at 8,000 yards DD Numakaze engages DD Express at 8,000 yards DD Numakaze engages DD Encounter at 8,000 yards DD Shiokaze engages DD Jupiter at 8,000 yards DD Encounter engages DD Uzuki at 8,000 yards Task forces break off... - I didn't know he had a Air HQ on Singkawang; or better to say, I was not expecting it so soon. Repulse got 2 torpedo hits. He doesn't look too badly hurt, but he is obviously at high risk on the next couple turns, then I would say at least 6 months to repair. I pitty I had great plans for him... [sm=nono.gif] [image]local://upfiles/41287/FEB8666C96F34EF38665B0EC40148CB1.jpg[/image]

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Repulse ate two torps (10/2/2014 2:15:02 AM)
I couple turns ago, I transfered Singapore's Vildebeests and Swordfish to Java (Air HQs withdrawn too). No point to keep them there after Mersing + all the airfields he now have to CAP it if needed. The idea was to caugh one of his SCTF pants down, or in other words, without any air cover. That part was successful... however, once again, those TB were a complete failure [sm=00000003.gif] Somehow in all my Japan games vs the AI, they are always 100% accurate. I guess at the very least, he will likely stop harassing Batavia ! [image]local://upfiles/41287/320A01929BF0423F8E7387B5EA5838F7.jpg[/image]

Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Repulse ate two torps (10/2/2014 2:17:32 AM)
I guess kudos to PresterJohn... I was not expecting it.. 10 Nells ; 2 torps [image]local://upfiles/41287/9BF9498008B849FA94873B0E433701FC.jpg[/image]

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