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Walker84 -> Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 5:14:28 PM)

Apbarog and I are embarking on a new PBEM using DBB-B Scen 28 with extended map and stacking limits. I'm playing as Japan (as usual) while my opponent is making a rare switch and taking up the Allied cause for a change.

We have agreed to a number of HRs, not because we are sticklers for making rules per se, but more to reflect our shared philosophy of the game, and how we see it progressing from an overall consistency point of view. These are listed below for reference (plus I may need to come back here to check from time to time [:D]).


SETTINGS

Fog of War - ON
Advanced Weather - ON
Allied Damage Control - ON
PDU - OFF
Historical First Turn - OFF
Dec 7 Surprise - ON
Realistic USN Torps - OFF
Realistic R&D - On
No Unit Withdrawals - OFF
Reinforcements - +/- 60 days

Combat reports - ON
Auto Sub Ops - OFF
TF Move Radius - ON
Plane Move Radius - ON
Set all facilities to expand - OFF
Auto Upgrade ships and air - OFF
Accept Air and Ground replacements - OFF
Turn cycle – 1

HRs

- Air sweeps limited by altitude by year
- 15k in 41
- 20k in 42
- 25k in 43
- 32k in 44-46.
- PPs paid to change theatres (Thai units allowed to cross into Burma, up to level with Toungoo).
- Restriction on early war strat bombing (date to be negotiable as war progresses) .
- No turn 1 multiple CV port strikes or gamey warp invasion, like Mersing, Singkawang, or Ambon.
- no 4e nav atk under 10k except USN PBY or Mavis types.
- no tiny paratroop drops to take empty bases.
- amphibious landings only at bases.
- Allied player won't set off-map task forces at full speed knowing that they don't use any fuel off-map. The number of days to move off-map from A to B was set up assuming a normal speed.
- night bombing is banned at start. Will be revisited later.
- no single ship task forces to make the strike targeting difficult. No using small AK's as pickets. Small task forces out ahead of something important should have a military purpose, be it scouting or ASW.
- PT task forces limited to having 8 PT boats.
- On turn 1, the Japs won't hunt down the US carriers.




Lowpe -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 5:24:58 PM)

I think the night bombing ban is a mistake, as you will not now, from day 1, allocate enough research on to it, and when those b29s come along the Allies will be several steps ahead of you and you will have lacked some experience in dealing with it and not researched NF heavily enough.

I think you should allow it perhaps in limited numbers...I have seen that in other games. Or restrict it to moonlight percent, or planes.

Of course, it is your game and have fun as you see fit...just don't get sandbagged later.

Banzai!





apbarog -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 5:43:38 PM)

Greetings. I'm looking forward to a challenging game. As Walker84 said, I have very limited time playing the Allies. Also, this is my first Beta patch game, and my first game with a mod, so although I am experienced in AE, it is going to be a new experience for me. Stacking limits in particular will be interesting. Walker84 and I both want to "win", but more importantly, I think we want to enjoy the journey. Walker, good luck to you. I will be starting my own thread shortly, and I'll now take my leave from your thread. See you in Tokyo Bay!




Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 6:00:54 PM)

To Lowpe: thanks for your interest and comments. We will certainly think in terms of what type of limit to put on early war night bombing rather than an outright ban and perhaps this can be lifted soon. I will definitely make a point of not stinting on night defences for the mid/late war game.

To Apbarog: I think on the whole, I'd rather meet you in St Louis!




Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 6:28:45 PM)

So the first turn has come back overnight and the Dec 7 Combat Report runes can now be read.

I decided to go in with a PH attack but detached Kaga to beef up the DEI campaign from the start. This probably weakens the raid on Pearl but has other benefits to my overall campaign plan.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
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Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 The attack looks weedy at first, but there is a second wave in the afternoon: something that I have not experienced before when attacking Pearl...


Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
B5N2 Kate x 45
D3A1 Val x 101



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 8 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 8 damaged
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 77 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 4 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 20 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 10 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 7 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 16 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 14 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 2 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 4 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 7 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 2 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 14 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 1
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 2
DD Henley, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB California, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1
AE Pyro, Bomb hits 1
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1
CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Repair Shipyard hits 2
Airbase hits 21
Runway hits 21
Port hits 7
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
16 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
B5N2 Kate x 27



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 12 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1
AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 1
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 1
DD Mugford, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage



Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes

Training flight from 18th PG/73rd PS has been caught up in attack

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So, a decent number of torpedoes find their mark on Battleship Row, on the other hand there is limited air base and port damage, plus Allied aircraft ground losses are light. I'm not minded to hang around for a second attack however, so the KB will be moving off now to support the Wake and Rabaul invasions.


In the Philippines, air attacks were divided between Clark Field and Manila. Reasonable but not overwhelming results were obtained:


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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
G4M1 Betty x 81



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 18 damaged
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 10 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1
SS Pickerel, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Seal, Bomb hits 1


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
G3M2 Nell x 36



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 49 damaged Would be nice if these could stay damaged so I can get them next turn
P-40B Warhawk: 6 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
P-35A: 11 damaged
O-47A: 3 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 23000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 23000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 27



Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
O-47A: 2 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 23000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 23000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb






Lowpe -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 6:45:36 PM)

Another dual AAR...what joy![sm=happy0065.gif]

You are off to a good start and Kaga should speed things up for you in DEI. Sink Task Force Z! Sink the Boise! You have so many fun things to do!

Good luck!







Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 6:48:46 PM)

Force Z has its wings clipped?

Morning Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 50,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 27



Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1
BC Repulse, Torpedo hits 1

Both ships should require some yard time which ought to help my plans in the DEI

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes


Malaya / DEI

Landings took place at Kota Bharu, Singora and Patani. Allied aircraft flew multiple missions but only secured one bomb hit on an AK. Previously, our air forces had successfully raided air bases at Alor Star, Georgetown and Kuantan.

Summary

A mixed sort of opening turn. I have reconfigured a number of invasion task forces and their target locations. Most are still en route, so we will have to see how quickly the first wave targets are gained; also what sort of initial defence Apbarog intends to put up in response.

The intel screen is currently reporting air losses from all sources at 35 Allied vs 27 Japanese. No data on ship losses yet (other than my aborted SSXs). Clearly I'd like to improve on these numbers over the coming turns![sm=00000619.gif]







JocMeister -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 7:14:15 PM)

Good luck Richard! [:)]




Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/1/2014 8:14:06 PM)

Thanks Jocke for dropping by - hope I can count on your good advice from time to time [&o]




Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/4/2014 1:44:31 PM)

December 8 1941

Operational review

Opening the IJN's account for the day, xAKL Montanes blunders at night into a screening force of IJN DDs just south of Davao and is sunk by gunfire in 85% moonlight. Then SS I-124 puts a torpedo into TK Mindanao, south of Busanga. AMs Finch and Whippoorwill are unable to find the sub.

Several Allied CMs are then torpedoed - no doubt on the way to mine likely invasion beaches:

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Sub attack near Djemadja at 52,83
SS I-154
CM Willem v d Zaan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Tawi Tawi at 71,89
SS I-123
CM Prins van Oranje, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Submarine attack near Tandjoengpinang at 51,85
SS I-154
CMc Pro Patria, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Lastly, SS I-19 attacks xAK Cynthia Olson on the surface near Hilo , Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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With many invasion TFs still at sea this turn daytime losses on both sides are surprising light , especially as Roger declines to put any CAP in the air over the PI. This allows Clark to be hit again unopposed, bagging a couple of P-35s and an O-47 on the ground plus increasing the AF damage level.

Bad weather die rolls keep other strikes on the ground but HK and Kota Bharu are both hit successfully.

The Kota Bharu and Aparri invasion TFs both land on schedule, and the former falls to the IJA during the day. The airfield is undamaged so a unit of Zeros move in to provide CAP straight away.

Nav search reveals numerous allied TFs dotted around the PI and heading towards all points of the compass. Some appear to be making the dash due east, where a nasty surprise lies in wait...

Betties put torpedoes into xAK Hai Lee and xAK Hanyang at HK and that is about it for the day.


Production account

I have already made a few adjustments on the production side, for example converting the Ida factory into an Oscar factory - going to need plenty of these babies with PDU off. I have also converted the smaller Nate factory to produce Babs which is a pretty good plane to have alongside the Dinah and costs less.

I will devote more planning time to production over the next few turns.





Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/5/2014 6:24:37 PM)

December 9 1941


Pacific Theatre

First up, the Big E is spotted near Palmyra at 168,123 by SS I-20

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise
CA Salt Lake City
DD Gridley
DD Balch
DD Fanning
DD Ellet
DD Benham

SS I-20 launches 8 torpedoes at CV Enterprise

Shame to waste so many torps for no effective hits, but its still useful to know Enterprise's location. Now, is she en route to link up with the other US carriers or are they going to different locations? As in other games, I delayed the Wake invasion due to the risk of Allied air interdiction and it will be interesting to find out whether the Wake F4Fs have been picked up by a carrier or are they still flying CAP on the island?

KB has now begun to steam West in order to support other operations. I thought Roger might sally forth with some SCTFs and so hung around an extra day in the vicinity but nothing materialised. I think I hit several BBs hard at Pearl but its too early to say how bad the damage was. In my experience its rare for more than a couple of BBs to actually sink in AE. Plus, I only used 5 carriers, one of which was set to naval attack which, in hindsight, was not the most effective configuration. Another thing I always do when planning the atttack nowadays is to stop the A6M2s strafing the airfields as flak is more powerfulin DBB with the current beta .


Further to the SW a Jap sub and a fearless Allied AKL duke it out...

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Sub attack near Nadi at 130,161

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 6

Allied Ships
xAKL Mapele, Shell hits 32, heavy fires, heavy damage

SS I-10 attacking on the surface
SS I-10 low on gun ammo, Muto E. breaks off surface engagement and submerges


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And having re-routed my Tarawa force (again as an insurance against Allied CV incursions) ... Japanese forces CAPTURE Nauru Island !!!

The next most immediate objectives will be Wake, Tarawa, Tabiteau, Shortlands, Buin and Rabaul. Landings will take place once the KB is in position to provide cover. The Rabaul mission involves the rerouted Guam TF together with the covering cruiser force. This in itself should be enough to see off any Allied incursions unless a CV decides to poke its nose in. An SNLF unit out of Truk will be sufficient to capture Guam.

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This is going to annoy Roger...big juicy xAP leaving SF unescorted. I wonder if it was already loaded with reinforcements?

Submarine attack near San Francisco at 216,76

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
xAP Lurline, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


More updates to follow...






Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/5/2014 7:36:45 PM)

Philippines / DEI

No P40 CAP in the air over the Philippines again, and now we find out why!

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,72

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 24

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kurama Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Minazuki
xAK Matsukawa Maru, Shell hits 3, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Yuzan Maru, Bomb hits 1
DMS W-19
xAK Arizona Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-40E Warhawk bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Massive explosion on xAKL Kurama Maru

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Vigan at 80,73

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DMS W-11, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Samidare
xAK Shinko Maru, Shell hits 2, Bomb hits 1
xAK Oigawa Maru
xAK Sanko Maru, Shell hits 3, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS W-12, Shell hits 6

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x P-40E Warhawk bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Both attacks are irksome but by the afternoon my forces are ashore pretty much intact, and both Laoag and Vigan will fall next turn. Two JAAF bns have deployed to Laoag so we will soon have all the CAP we need. Recon shows that the Allied fighters are dispersed at Iba, Clark and Batangas. There are precious few bombers so maybe he has bought them out already, or they could be hiding at Cebu.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Siargao at 82,88
Meanwhile, the net tightens on the forces trying to flee the PI...
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N2 Kate x 27
D3A1 Val x 25

Allied Ships
xAP Elcano, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Candesa, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tacloban at 81,85

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
B5N2 Kate x 18
D3A1 Val x 25

Allied Ships
xAK Capillo, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Ethel Edwards, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP President Madison, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yu Sang, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Tantalus, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Si Kiang, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Invasion TFs supported by screening forces are converging on Cagayan, Davao and Manokwari. The southern prong of the Luzon invasion will go in at Naga in a few days time, hopefully unopposed although S-boats are clearly a concern...



North Borneo / Sarawak

The TF in the centre of the screenshot is my Miri invasion force, supported by the BBs and CAs formerly screening the Malaya invasions. There is some kind of a welcoming committee sitting at Miri, but its unlikely to be more than a couple of DDs and CLs. Plus, there are a whole host of ships fleeing Manila to the East of my location. I may just have to re-route the Miri invasion temporarily and let my SCTFs loose among the chickens[:D] The good news is that, with Force Z taking a couple of torps the other day, its unlikely that any Allied capital ships will interfere at this stage.



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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/7/2014 6:45:58 PM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 41 (EDITED EXTRACTS)
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I lost this report to a time-out first time grrr!

IJN SSs and SCTFs enjoy more success at night than in the daytime when it comes to intercepting Allied shipping fleeing HK and the Philippines:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Daito Shoto at 93,77
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Ise
DD Mikazuki
DD Wakatake
Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Governor Wright, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
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Submarine attack near Muntok at 49,89
Japanese Ships
SS I-121
Allied Ships
xAP Hong Peng, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 77,75, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Natori
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Harukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships (presumably freshly arrived from HK)
MTB 7, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB 8
MTB 9
MTB 10
MTB 11, Shell hits 1
MTB 12
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kwangchowan
Japanese Ships
DD Tsuta
DD Yomogi
Allied Ships
xAK Fatshan, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
xAK Ming Sang, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Nanning, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Chengtu, Shell hits 16, and is sunk

I-26 is rapidly becoming the scourge of the West Coast after sinking its teeth into a second unescorted AP.
Submarine attack near San Francisco at 217,71
Japanese Ships
SS I-26
Allied Ships
AP Tasker H Bliss, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

IJN subs also hit several small APs and AKLs in the waters around Borneo. However, by and large, our SCTFs fail to connect with Allied shipping during the daytime. Much of this shipping is being funnelling via Jolo as the screenshot shows. I had to make a decision with the Boise still at large and chose to use surface assets to support the impending landings at Cagayan and Davao as the main priority. I will however order some cruisers into the vicinity of Jolo next turn in an attempt to plug the gap.

Here's the current position around Borneo and the southern Philippines...


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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/7/2014 6:53:39 PM)

Philippines campaign Dec 10, 41

Vigan and Laoag fall and the latter will get some CAP immediately. Note that Roger has already positioned some PT boats at Legaspi and Naga, which was going to be the target for my southern invasion force. I guess I will have to send the cavalry in first... Landings have also taken place at Davao and Cagayan, the latter will receive an air flotilla via fast transport as soon as it falls. Then come the Netties...

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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/7/2014 7:02:36 PM)

Malaya

Units are debarking well at Singora and Kota Bharu, and the 1st Tk Rgt has moved quickly enough to cut the railroad, trapping the Allied forces trying to strat move out of Alor Star. Roger's been pretty quiet in the air so I'd better keep a lookout for any CAP traps being planned. The general plan is to reassemble the IJA infantry divisions from their components to help reduce losses when we cross the Causeway. Meanwhile, our advanced elements will harry the retreating Brits...



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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/8/2014 4:55:50 PM)

REPORTS FOR Dec 11, 41

Several IJN SCTFs break into the Sulu and Celebes Seas, while the mini KB steams west to intercept Allied shipping in the vicinity of Jolo. Saigon-based LBA also scores a notable victory by sinking the bulk of an Allied TF trying to sneak past Samah. A whole squadron of Allied PTs are sunk without loss at Naga prior to my invasion TF making land there.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Babeldaob

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
CL Kitakami
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba

Allied Ships
xAKL Cetus, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kudat at 70,86, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 1
CA Kumano
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze

Allied Ships
AM Bittern, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
AM Tanager, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AM Quail, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
AM Lark, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ulithi at 99,94, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Oboro
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
xAK Ravnaas, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Naga at 81,81, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
PT-31, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-32, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-33, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-34, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-35, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-41, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Samah at 69,64

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 20
G4M1 Betty x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Dona Nati, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Don Jose, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Paz, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
PG Tulsa, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Anakan, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Bisayas, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Palawan, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Corregidor, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


A pinprick raid on Kagi destroys a solitary transport on the ground. Local CAP is increased as a result.


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Morning Air attack on Kagi , at 85,64

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
L3Y2 Tina: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged

Runway hits 1



The Mini KB finds plenty of targets in the Celebes Sea and is starting to run low on torpedoes as a result...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengselor at 68,95

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
A6M2 Zero x 12
D3A1 Val x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
PG Asheville, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Jolo at 73,88

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Hai Kwang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK La Estrella Caltex, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
YO-42, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 75,89

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
B5N2 Kate x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AV Langley, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Finch
ACM Colonel Harrison, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samarinda at 67,96

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AS Otus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Rochambeau
AVD Childs, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



As the map shows, a fair amount of Allied shipping escaped the drift net although at a rough count, the roll call of losses includes many of the most significant vessels that start the campaign in Manila. Now where is the pesky Boise?...

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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/8/2014 5:10:38 PM)

Dec 11, 41 Land war summary

Amphibious Assaults go in at Hollandia and Wewak.

Guam and Manokwari are captured.

Ground combats take place at Hong Kong, Cagayan and Davao. Cagayan should fall soon. I hope I have enough firepower at Davao but if not I have a reserve at Babeldaob that will be able to tip the balance. At HK its primarily a question of resting my troops between attacks and keeping up the artillery bombardments and bombing runs in the meantime



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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 23446 troops, 344 guns, 181 vehicles, Assault Value = 568

Defending force 6810 troops, 127 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 183

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 726

Allied adjusted defense: 377

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1386 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 94 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled

Allied ground losses:
476 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 59 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
38th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind Engineer Regiment
1st Ind.Inf.Group
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
5th RF Gun Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
102nd RN Base Force
1st Middlesex Battalion
Hong Kong Fortress


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Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4641 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 142

Defending force 2690 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Japanese adjusted assault: 143

Allied adjusted defense: 141

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
475 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
Kimura Det
Kure 1st SNLF
1st Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
3rd Constabulary Regiment
Mindanao Force
Del Monte AAF Base Force
205th Base Sqdn



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Ground combat at Davao (79,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1826 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Defending force 1639 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Japanese adjusted assault: 19

Allied adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 1st SNLF

Defending units:
101st PA Infantry Regiment
505th Base Sqdn



Still getting into position in Malaya, Thailand and in the Pacific theatre of operations so will hold off here until there's something more significant to report...






Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/9/2014 5:55:49 PM)

REPORTS FOR Dec 13, 41
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Roger has caught wind of my landing at Naga - via SigInt no doubt - and has rushed some units there to provide a welcoming committee. The AV is roughly comparable at the moment but fortunately I have a second wave coming in soon. I am going to DA this turn and hope the quality of my troops wins the day. If I can shatter these PA units there will be less available to defend Manila.


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Ground combat at Naga (81,81)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12134 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 391

Defending force 10222 troops, 85 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 328

Assaulting units:
51st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
91st PA Infantry Division

Defending units:
16th Recon Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment




I forgot to mention that last turn my recon picked up a lot of APs in Singapore indicating the possible evacuation of some non-restricted units. I'm not in a position to do much about this at the moment and, on the plus side, it may well make it a whole lot easier to take Singers in a few weeks time. I may need to race to Rangoon even earlier though, in case he plans to reinforce here to keep the Burma Road open as long as possible. As for the Malaya campaign itself, 6th and 15th Indian Bdes remain trapped at Alor Star and we are now marching on Georgetown now as well.

Our subs continue to enjoy some success around the map...


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Submarine attack near Hilo at 185,111

Japanese Ships
SS I-19

Allied Ships
xAK Montgomery City, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Montgomery City is sighted by SS I-19
SS I-19 attacking on the surface

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Submarine attack near Pago Pago at 148,161

Japanese Ships
SS I-18

Allied Ships
xAK Ludington, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Ludington is sighted by SS I-18
SS I-18 attacking on the surface



Japanese Deliberate attack at Hong Kong drops the fort level to 1

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Attacking force 22689 troops, 343 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 528

Defending force 6536 troops, 127 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 149

Japanese adjusted assault: 650

Allied adjusted defense: 321

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
369 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Ind.Inf.Group
66th Infantry Regiment
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
19th Ind Engineer Regiment
38th Division
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th RF Gun Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
1st Middlesex Battalion
Hong Kong Fortress
102nd RN Base Force /1



Kweiteh falls to a Japanese Deliberate attack

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Attacking force 324 troops, 0 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 34

Defending force 2497 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67

Japanese adjusted assault: 14

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweiteh !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
856 casualties reported
Squads: 59 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
15th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
51st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps



Japanese Shock attack at Wake Island comes close but the plucky defenders hold out...

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Attacking force 3714 troops, 30 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Defending force 758 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Japanese adjusted assault: 12

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
746 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
141st USN Stn Base Force
Wake (Det.) Defense Battalion




Japanese Deliberate attack at Davao drops the fort level to 0

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Attacking force 1784 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Defending force 1517 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Japanese adjusted assault: 22

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 1st SNLF

Defending units:
101st PA Infantry Regiment
505th Base Sqdn



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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/9/2014 11:16:27 PM)

REPORTS FOR Dec 14, 1941

A sprinkling of notable land results to report this turn (see below). In the air, bombing runs against assorted LCU targets in Malaya, China and HK continue unopposed (for now). Allied subs continue to operate around Wake and Camh Ran Bay but have failed to hit any targets so far. Allied ASW TFs make an appearance on the W Coast.


A Japanese Bombardment attack at Hong Kong wears the defenders down a little bit more...

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Attacking force 3828 troops, 196 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 511

Defending force 6173 troops, 127 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



A Bombardment attack at 89,40 (near Taiyuan) opens another Japanese offensive in China


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Attacking force 23025 troops, 225 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 681

Defending force 6052 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 131

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
37th Division
41st Division
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Chinese Corps
7th Group Army



Despite an AV deficit the quality of the Japanese troops at Naga ensures that the Deliberate attack is successful, with the shattered Allied units retreating towards Legaspi. The survivors now have their backs to the sea and nowhere else to run.


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Attacking force 10222 troops, 85 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 328

Defending force 12146 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 393

Japanese adjusted assault: 183

Allied adjusted defense: 44

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Naga !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
720 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 98 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5090 casualties reported
Squads: 178 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 125 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 58 (58 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
9th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
41st PA Infantry Division
51st PA Infantry Division
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
91st PA Infantry Division




Wake Island falls to a Deliberate attack although Maizuru 2nd SNLF has been badly mauled and Wakes CDs sink an AKL and set an AMC on fire before they are silenced.


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Attacking force 3204 troops, 28 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 62

Defending force 493 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese adjusted assault: 40

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
53rd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Wake (Det.) Defense Battalion



Davao holds out for another turn...

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Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1790 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 1493 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Japanese adjusted assault: 22

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 1st SNLF

Defending units:
101st PA Infantry Regiment
505th Base Sqdn




Finally, Miri is taken and landings are made at Brunei, which should fall tomorrow.





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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/10/2014 9:10:45 PM)

REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 41
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Up to 4 Allied SSs are now patrolling around Babeldaob, which is a pain given that this is my key hub in the area at the moment. Davao (which finally fell today) and Cagayan will also be developed as ports. Torpedo-packing Betties and their Zero escorts are already operational at the latter base.

Brunei falls the day after Miri.

A further bombardment attack is made at Hong Kong and we will go in with a DA next turn. Heavy bombing is still taking place and I think a few more days will do it.

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Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3828 troops, 196 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 522

Defending force 6052 troops, 127 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Chinese troops are pushed back with heavy losses in a DA at 89,40 (near Taiyuan)

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Attacking force 23071 troops, 225 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Defending force 6046 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 129

Japanese adjusted assault: 519

Allied adjusted defense: 64

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2479 casualties reported
Squads: 131 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 133 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
37th Division
41st Division
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
33rd Chinese Corps
7th Group Army


Next up, invasion TFs will hit Manado, Ternate and Kuching in the next few days. All are supported by SCTFs and air combat elements. Allied cruisers have not been seen in either vicinity but they could be lurking just out of patrol range...

Further east, the KB moves out of Allied detection and I think its safe to say that Rabaul's days are numbered...




Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/11/2014 5:22:08 PM)

REPORT FOR DEC 16, 1941


Trying to make sense of the situation in China. Roger and I have an agreed bias to keep the campaign focus on theatres outside of China without ignoring this important area - call it Slightly Quieter China if you will. It may seem controversial to some but I am actually not all that interested in striving to capture Chungking and do not plan to assemble armoured divisions and heavy artillery in China to help achieve this. The majority of buyouts will be used to further strategies in other parts of the Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. What I will do however is keep the pressure up in China, and, in particular, claim any low-hanging fruit that falls into the basket.

A glance at the map will show that my opponent has not shown any designs on Ichang so far, while seeming content to hang on to Chengchow and Loyang while regrouping other forces on the Chinese plains. My current design is to save Ichang and also make the other two cities into a salient which will be squeezed at both ends, allowing the Chinese forces to be defeated in detail owhen they are forced to run for the hills as surely they must do soon...

Oh, and the other significant China event this turn was...

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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23998 troops, 348 guns, 179 vehicles, Assault Value = 539

Defending force 6034 troops, 127 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Japanese adjusted assault: 686

Allied adjusted defense: 157

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
466 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6105 casualties reported
Squads: 263 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 172 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 165 (165 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 102 (102 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 6


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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/11/2014 5:39:06 PM)

DEC 16 (Cont)

About 1/2 a dozen Allied sub attacks on various targets, luckily most target the escorts- and we know how difficult it is to hit a DD with a torp.

However, it's just my luck that the first time an Allied sub hits anything at all, the victim is an AP carrying elements of the 33rd div for the forthcoming Burma campaign. Mizuho Maru should make port okay in a few days as long as lightning doesn't strike twice...

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Sub attack near Laoag at 82,70

Japanese Ships
xAP Mizuho Maru, Torpedo hits 1
TB Chidori
xAP Katori Maru
DD Numakaze
DD Namikaze
DD Nokaze
DD Akikaze

Allied Ships
SS Snapper

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS Snapper launches 4 torpedoes at xAP Mizuho Maru
Snapper diving deep ....
DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Namikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Nokaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Akikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Akikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Akikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Akikaze is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


In Malaya, Georgetown falls to the first DA, having been softened up nicely by repeated bombing runs. Alor Star will soon be cleared out, and the race south will begin in earnest. Roger seems to be covering most Malay bases with minor units - no more than speed bumps I guess.

I bomb Manila port, mainly to prevent fort levels rising, and get a few hits on ARD YFD-1 Dewey into the bargain.

Three Allied PT boats fail to deter my landing at Ternate. Should fall next turn.

And that's about it as various amphibious TFs continue to move towards their targets while the covering forces rush about like anxious shepherd dogs to protect the next one in line.





Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/12/2014 4:35:21 PM)

REPORT FOR Dec 17, 1941

Ternate falls and additional forces land at Manado. A further TF is also en route to Sorong. It will be good to get some more search capability into the Celebes Sea. Right now, I can't see what is going on properly, with Mavis's flying at the limits of their range from Babeldaob.

Torpedo-armed Betties flying from Cagayan are set to nav attack with 10% search but I suspect that most Allied shipping has withdrawn to the south and west of Balikpapan by now. However the threat is there should my opponent decide to sally out. In other games I have found that Allied SCTFs used judiciously can mount effective assaults on lightly-guarded invasion TFs which is why I am investing quite a lot in terms of covering forces.

The rest of the turn is relatively uneventful. More ASW attacks off the W Coast and I am now in the process of redeploying air units from HK and Indochina to the Philippines and Malaya.

The AVG hasn't shown up yet. I wonder if Roger will keep it in Burma or deploy in China. The latter worries me more as I do not have a good situation yet when it comes to fighter escorts.



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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/13/2014 5:56:12 PM)

DECEMBER 18, 1941


Manado falls to Japanese forces for the loss of DMS W-14, torpedoed by S-37.

Invasions also go in at Rabaul, Kavieng, Sorong and Kuching. No Allied SCTFs in evidence so far, but subs are loitering around Kuching.

CA Myoko hits a mine in the hex adjacent to Naga. Roger must have used subs to drop the mines. Two DMS are detached from a nearby TF to deal with the problem and Myoko will puts into Naga to stabilise before moving back to a shipyard in Japan. A6M2s are flying CAP over Naga. A6M2s sweep Clark but there are no fighters in the air to oppose them.

SS I-168 sights Allied Ships xAKL Pulganbar and AM Penguin near Deboyne Islands at 102,135. Must check out what's going on there.



Turning to Malaya, our attack at Alor Star goes in pretty well dropping the forts to 0. We will attack again tomorrow.


quote:

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1424 troops, 2 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 234

Defending force 5279 troops, 20 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 199

Japanese adjusted assault: 44

Allied adjusted defense: 41

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
6th Indian Brigade
15th Indian Brigade



Kavieng is a different matter however after we go in light, trying to take this one on the cheap...

quote:

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 510 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 269 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
I/66th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
2/1st Ind Coy



And finally, today's gratuitous screenshot shows the build-up around the Solomon Sea...



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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/15/2014 8:08:04 PM)

DECEMBER 19 1941

Sorong and Rabaul both fall, the latter appearing to have been partly evacuated beforehand. The attack at Kavieng is halted until further reinforcements arrive. Several 139WH-3s and Hudson I's are shot down by the Zuiho air group which was covering the Sorong invasion.

In Malaya, the 42nd Infantry Regiment pushes 2nd Malay Battalion out of Taiping to capture the town. Further north at Alor Star, 6th Indian Brigade and 15th Indian Brigade both surrender after being surrounded and shock attacked. 2782 casualties reported.

A6M2s and Ki-43-Ib flying from Kota Bharu sweep Singapore for the first time encountering 50+ Buffalos in air defence. The kill ratio is better than 2:1 in our favour. I suspect that the CAP is mainly there to protect Allied shipping as more APs are spotted in the vicinity.

Japanese Shock attack at Kuching drops the fort level to zero.

HK harbour is cleared of mines but DMS W-17 hits one although is able to put into the shipyard for repairs.

BB Ise and BB Nagato mount a night naval bombardment of Wenchow causing a fair bit of damage before returing to Shanghai to rearm.






Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/15/2014 8:21:34 PM)

DECEMBER 20 1941

Tavoy, Kuching, Tarawa and Makin are all captured today.

SS I-166 spots the following Allied ships hugging the coast of Sumatra, no doubt in the process of evacuating unrestricted units from Singapore: xAP Pijnacker Hordijk, xAP Matang, DD Vampire.

I'm still advancing south from Taiping so it will be a week or two before I'm ready to assault Singapore. Now that I have a base at Kuching I can take Singkawang in a few days time and will then be able to interdict shipping in the vicinity more easily.

The airfield at Manila is bombed hard again. No CAP around.

Here is the situation in North China where the Chinese units left on the plains are all making a break for the hills. Some 20+ fighters are spotted at Sian making me wonder if the AVG is preparing to make an appearance. Ichang still looks safe. I'll need to move faster if I want to cut off more of the retreating Chinese units...




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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/16/2014 9:49:51 PM)

DECEMBER 21, 1941

My opponent is taking care to mine as many potential landing sites as possible rendering a good DMS continent essential in all invasion TFs. Kuching and Catanduanes - the hex adjacent to Naga were so treated. It's a shame that the valuable DMS are often the first in line to get shelled or torpedoed when used in their intended role.

By sailing close enough to Oz I reveal the KB's location but only manage to nab a couple of AKLs and the ill-fated Penguin...
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quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cairns at 92,140

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
D3A1 Val x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Bangalow, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
AM Penguin, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Pulganbar, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk


Still, this show of strength should warn off any attempts to interdict my forthcoming landings in the Solomons.

A bombing run reveals that 11th PA Infantry Division is still dug in at San Fernando. So far my forces in the north of Luzon consist of a couple of regiments, some artillery and air force base units so I will need to start shipping in more from the Pescadores pronto. Further south, I have decided to obliterate the remnants of the force that I assaulted at Naga before turning to march on Manila.







Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/16/2014 10:07:55 PM)

DECEMBER 22, 1941

We go in heavy with successive Oscar and Zero sweeps to try and wear down the CAP over Singapore. Some 50 Buffalos rise to meet the onslaught and, although more Allied planes are destroyed in air to air, we suffer a number of write-offs due in part to the extended range flying from Kota Bharu and Taiping. I'm looking forward to capturing some forward bases in the next few days.

Blenheim bombers hit 42nd Infantry Regiment near Taiping causing several hundred casualties and reminding me of the importance of setting CAP over my forward echelons. However, the 42nd still rumbles over the roadblock set up by 2nd Malay Battalion (which promptly surrenders).

Kavieng falls to I/66th Naval Guard Unit, newly reinforced by 2nd Indpt SNLF Coy, and the latter re-embarks immediately to resume its mission to Madang.

Manado receives an air flotilla base unit and 27 torpedo-armed Betties. Still no major Allied warships within search range in the Celebes Sea.


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Walker84 -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/17/2014 6:26:56 AM)

DECEMBER 22 1941

Several victories to report today for the Imperial Japanese Army.

In the Philippines, Legaspi falls and the surrounded Allied forces surrender.

quote:

Ground combat at Legaspi (82,82) Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16231 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 529

Defending force 8123 troops, 66 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 224

Japanese adjusted assault: 380

Allied adjusted defense: 23

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
260 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
11128 casualties reported
Squads: 390 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 453 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 92 (92 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4

Assaulting units:
20th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
41st PA Infantry Division
51st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division



And on the northern Chinese plains, the noose tightens with key victories near Sinyang and Chengchow...

quote:

Ground combat at 85,47 (near Sinyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25786 troops, 190 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 786

Defending force 13172 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 236

Japanese adjusted assault: 475

Allied adjusted defense: 167

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
776 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5442 casualties reported
Squads: 262 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 135 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 18 (13 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
6th Division
18th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade

Defending units:
30th Chinese Corps
2nd Group Army
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Ground combat at 87,45 (near Chengchow)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 24078 troops, 200 guns, 109 vehicles, Assault Value = 760

Defending force 15235 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 326

Japanese adjusted assault: 727

Allied adjusted defense: 21

Japanese assault odds: 34 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
522 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5449 casualties reported
Squads: 177 destroyed, 149 disabled
Non Combat: 223 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 20 (13 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
15th Tank Regiment
110th Division
36th Division

Defending units:
13th Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps




Kudat and Atimonan also fall today.


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Yaab -> RE: Great Tides that Ebb and Flow: Apbarog (A) vs Walker (J) DBB-B Scen 28 (11/17/2014 2:41:53 PM)

Uhm, China is one big VP farm. You mostly suffer disabled squads (for which your opponent gets no victory points) while gaining VPs for destroyed Chinese devices. A nice VP cushion for late war.




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