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bo -> RE: Playable! (11/13/2014 2:51:36 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Zartacla
You honestly think the game is playable in its current condition?
Let's see - once again, the game is not recognizing allied CP's for delivering supply (or I should say it's doing it sporadically, but the only common denominator I can find is that supply is being traced through allied CP's). Try running Operation Torch when the US and the UK need their own separate supply lines. Playable? Sure, in the sense that the game doesn't crash, but not in the sense that it works close enough to intended to serve its purpose.
Try loading units onto ships moving through ports.
Try declaring war on a minor country that was conquered by a major power that has itself been conquered. In my current game China conquered French Indo China after Japan demanded it from the Vichy government. On the next turn, Japan conquered China and now FIC is permanently neutral. Playable? Sure, it didn't crash the game. Playable in the way it's intended to be played? No.
Try setting up pickets to intercept ships that are aborting from a sea zone (either aborting from combat, or returning home at the end of the turn) or units that have been overrun and forced to rebase. That will often crash the game. Playable? Only if you voluntarily choose not to play that part of the naval war.
Try setting up your convoy chains and getting the resources to route the way you want them to. But hey, it's apparently not a bug if resources go from cape verde to central atlantic and then to the bay of biscay instead of just going straight from CV to BoB. The problem, you see, is that I'm just not smart enough to figure out the easy to use, user friendly production planning form. Playable? I suppose. Fun? Not hardly.
Try making a blitz attack or using engineers in an attack or using winterized units in an attack, then ignoring the prompt to destroy the armor/eng/winterized unit as the first combat loss. Sure, you can self enforce it, but isn't the value of MWiF over Vassal supposed to be the software enforcing the rules for us?
Try starting a netplay game. For anyone who bought the game primarily for netplay, based on the promise made on release day that Netplay would be working soon, it's definitely not playable.
I think the comparison Warspite made to Civ V was a good one. Civ V is a great game - but only if you've never played Civ I-IV. MWiF is a great game, but only if you've never played it live and don't know the rules as they are supposed to be coded. I can see how someone with little or no WiF experience prior to MWiF would rave about what a great game it is, but that's not me.
Right now MWiF is like buying a new car only to find that the radio works only intermittently, the air conditioner doesn't work at all, and the electric window controls have been replaced with manual cranks. But it's driveable!
My dear Zar
I personally agree with most of your comments and I could see where a new person would feel the game is playing very well and we all know it needs more fixing in all areas, the beta testers [volunteers without pay Zar, and if you do not like that word then ask the Matrix powers that be, to get professional help, not my call][:(] feel the same way IMO and they all want this game to come to fruition ASAP.
I do understand that if I paid good money like others here including you and Dabrion I personally would not be a happy camper [:(] When some beta people here suggested that you might consider coming to the inside [beta tester] helping us test the game with your knowledge of the game your answer was I did not buy the game to be a tester, IMHO that is the correct answer and I commend you for that as I would not have thought of a good answer like that.
I cannot speak for Matrix or Steve or even the other beta testers, I am speaking from the heart here, I tease sometimes and joke on the forums but when it is a serious situation like now I do not BS anyone not my bag. Come into the beta testing but that is not my call to ask you in. OR!
Go on and keep complaining which is your right to do so and I respect that, or go on like Dabrion wanting a refund and I respect his opinions also, well most of them [:(]] or put your feelings in your old kit bag [my mothers saying many years ago, and it was a song] pull up your britches and maybe just maybe yours and Dabrions knowledge of the game would be of tremendous assistance to Steve if he feels he needs it, his call. Not looking for an argument Zar its just I would like to play this game with net play and the AI in my lifetime, WITH or WITHOUT yours and Dabrions assistance.
Bo
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