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Q-Ball -> Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 3:34:11 PM)

It's a warship from an Allied power, taken during the war. It's a confusing photo in many ways. Any guesses?

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geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 3:39:35 PM)

Tarps all over it. Hard to tell.




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 3:41:29 PM)

Is it Rodney?




Dili -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 3:41:52 PM)

Centurion?




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 3:42:59 PM)

Can't be.




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 3:50:55 PM)

The aft isn't right for Strasbourg or I'd guess that.




Dixie -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:04:53 PM)

I've seen this picture before, and if I remember correctly, it's the cruiser La Argentina.




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:23:21 PM)

That wasn't an allied power, but it was a modification of the Arethusa class cruisers. Could be one of them.




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:26:03 PM)

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geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:34:48 PM)

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geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:42:49 PM)

You're a winner Dixie

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/argentina/pages/la_argentina_page_1.htm




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:46:33 PM)

You can see why the rear turret was covered up

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geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:49:19 PM)

Three gun turrets instead of two.




Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 4:50:04 PM)

I always wondered how was it possible to carry that huge Walrus floatplane on a cruiser

This picture from ARA La Argentina, explains it

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Dixie -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 5:05:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

You're a winner Dixie

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/argentina/pages/la_argentina_page_1.htm


You're the first gorn* to ever say that! [:D]


*or person for that matter




Q-Ball -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/4/2014 5:37:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

That wasn't an allied power, but it was a modification of the Arethusa class cruisers. Could be one of them.


Damn, Dixie remembered the photo, because this one is real tough otherwise. It is ARA LA ARGENTINA, a modified Arethusa-class cruiser.

The photo was taken August 1945, at which point Argentina WAS an Allied power! (A Juanny come lately though, like several of the South American countries)

Photo was taken in New Orleans, when she was in for a refit




geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/5/2014 1:46:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

You're a winner Dixie

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/argentina/pages/la_argentina_page_1.htm


You're the first gorn* to ever say that! [:D]


*or person for that matter



Sorry, that was a typo. I meant wiener, as in a gentleman from Wien otherwise known as Vienna.





geofflambert -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/5/2014 1:50:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball


quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

That wasn't an allied power, but it was a modification of the Arethusa class cruisers. Could be one of them.


Damn, Dixie remembered the photo, because this one is real tough otherwise. It is ARA LA ARGENTINA, a modified Arethusa-class cruiser.

The photo was taken August 1945, at which point Argentina WAS an Allied power! (A Juanny come lately though, like several of the South American countries)

Photo was taken in New Orleans, when she was in for a refit


Johnny come lately which constituted a stampede toward the end.




Maglio -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/6/2014 10:45:15 AM)

Coming from one of the so called "Johnny comes lately" countries, I just put thing in perspective.
We South Americans on the early 40s didnīt saw WW2 as a global conflict, for us it was a European thing far away and worsening our already deteriorated economies.
Speaking from the Chilean point of view, both our presidents during this period, Mr. Aguirre Cerda and Mr. Rios where leftist, although there was a really high proportion of Chileans who supported Germany up to late 43 (tons of immigrants here that still speak German). So there was not a clear national position towards the conflict.
Finally what pressed us toward braking diplomatic relations with the axis powers was the US pressure on our government, our recovering economy was highly dependent on nitrates and cooper exportation and by then our only "customer" was the US.
Another "incentive" was the lend lease of US materiel to replace our German and Italian equipment out of spares by then, and we really needed some hardware since our relations with Argentina has been deteriorating rapidly, so for getting the stuff we were compelled to break diplomatic relations with the axis.
Finally what caused the declaration of war to Japan in 1945, was only the fact that it was a prerequisite to became a member of the United Nations, and by then we were really pressured by the US to do this.
So in resume, we didnīt want to get involved, even some south American countries has fascist governments that did quite well and where even popular, so from our perspective (by then) was what is the point to get involved in something so far away. Only by the end and mainly pressured by the US, we were compelled (mainly economically) to declare war in order to be part of the new world order emerging by 1945.




Rising-Sun -> RE: Can you guess this ship? (12/6/2014 11:54:39 AM)

Prob captured during the war, then later for refit. I knew it was a cruiser and what Geoff mention, hard to tell with all the tarps over some places.




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