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IronMikeGolf -> RE: Ordering a unit not to fire...is it possible? (12/9/2014 10:26:16 PM)

There is a practical side of a Hummer or Brad, etc engaging a tank with a weapon that can't kill it. If you want to break contact, shooting 50 cal, 14.5mm, 20mm, 25mm, etc will make the TC button up. That drastically decreases situational awareness and target acquisition. Heavy MG or small cal HE will also rattle the crew for a bit. Real world, that gives you precious seconds to furiously seek defilade.



CapnDarwin -> RE: Ordering a unit not to fire...is it possible? (12/9/2014 10:42:00 PM)

Thinking out loud, I think for most orders, there are two SOP settings. The first is Engaging. A slider from Passive (hide, no shooting) to Agressive (engage targets at max effective range). The second is Tolerance. Another selection that sets the units tolerance to being engaged by the enemy. We could go from spotted to hold at all cost. This would govern when a unit plans to scoot. Of course other factors can sway the outcome.



Jakerson -> RE: Ordering a unit not to fire...is it possible? (12/10/2014 3:49:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Mad Russian
Have you ever watched Greatest Tank Battles #10 - 73 Easting, where a Bradley engages a T-72, on front armor, with his 25mm chaingun? I know that's bigger than a M2HB machinegun but the results were the same. Just because it doesn't make absolute sense doesn't mean it's not done.


Well you cannot penetrate T-72 front armor with 25mm gun but if you are lucky it could damange T-72 targetting sights and laser systems witch are not armored that well and then tank is blind before that T-72 cracks that bradley like pop corn with 125mm gun.

If targetting systems and laser gets damaged then it is much harder for that T-72 hit that bradley especially if bradley moves.

This is reason why shooting with 25mm is better than not shooting as it might damage those systems that reduce that T-72 battle effiency. But generally Bradley vs T-72 is not great idea unless you use ATGM.



Werewolf13 -> RE: Ordering a unit not to fire...is it possible? (12/10/2014 10:30:27 PM)


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The longer we stay in Red Storm the longer it will be before you guys get the reworked Order-SOP system that comes out with Southern Storm. It's why we are continually trying to move forward.

MR


One imagines that any work done on Red Storm to make it better will easily be transfered Southern Storm.



CapnDarwin -> RE: Ordering a unit not to fire...is it possible? (12/10/2014 11:11:14 PM)

Werewolf, true, but we are not looking to add SOPs now into the Red Storm system. It will take some time to recode and test and we have a ton of other features to integrate. We are happy to crush bugs now, since we won't have to deal with them later. That saves time.



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