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ORIGINAL: Dgsbdy
I am new here but I must input the fact that in my build of Command the loadouts of the various aircraft and countries involved have no basis on historical load outs or on realistic mission expectations.

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I admit I haven't had much investigation

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My complaint is most of the historical loadouts available for most nations I have investigated are literally from the "brochures" and do not reflect realistic historical war loads that were carried.

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I also am troubled by no Snakeye/High Drag loadouts which would increase accuracy and survivability for low alt delivery nor the heavy LDGP loadouts for Su27 types.

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I don't know if the OOB's are based on Wikipedia or not but if I'm wrong I want someone to show me proof any A-4C in the Malvinas ever lifted off with a thousand pounder centerline with 2 500 pounders outboard.

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I have 4 aviation armorer friends from Rio Grande in the 80's that will confirm it never happened despite what you might read on Wikipedia.

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ORIGINAL: Dgsbdy

I am new here but I must input the fact that in my build of Command the loadouts of the various aircraft and countries involved have no basis on historical load outs or on realistic mission expectations.

I admit I haven't had much investigation but the most glaring examples I've seen are Argentinian loadouts during the Falklands and some of the Iranian aircraft load outs from the "Israel Strikes" scenario. Of course there are numerous reference articles to research there but I wonder about modern loadouts.

My complaint is most of the historical loadouts available for most nations I have investigated are literally from the "brochures" and do not reflect realistic historical war loads that were carried. I also am troubled by no Snakeye/High Drag loadouts which would increase accuracy and survivability for low alt delivery nor the heavy LDGP loadouts for Su27 types.

I don't know if the OOB's are based on Wikipedia or not but if I'm wrong I want someone to show me proof any A-4C in the Malvinas ever lifted off with a thousand pounder centerline with 2 500 pounders outboard. I have 4 aviation armorer friends from Rio Grande in the 80's that will confirm it never happened despite what you might read on Wikipedia. To get the range needed they carried 2 500 lbers and even then they needed aerial refueling. The Daggers could get away with a pair of 1000 lbers at times with drop tanks and could maintain a high speed at low level to escape quickly.

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Aircrew members, sub and ship crew, industry reps who design and build the equipment simulated in this program, from various nationalities, who have, in both peace and war, saw firsthand the type of operations represented in this simulation.

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ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi my experience is over 35 years service in the Royal Navy and still serving experience is the Falklands War as 20mm aimer on HMS Plymouth both Gulf Wars, Former Yugoslavia Conflict and numourous other things which dont appear in the press, my qualifications are ex Aircraft Controller including Forward Air Controller, Radar and Weapons Systems Director including Datalinks

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ORIGINAL: AFIntel

…and then there's this one time a guy walks into a biker bar. Although he'd never rode a motorcycle in his life, he started bad-mouthing Harley Davidson's to the stunned patrons. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: AFIntel

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ORIGINAL: Dgsbdy

I am new here but I must input the fact that in my build of Command the loadouts of the various aircraft and countries involved have no basis on historical load outs or on realistic mission expectations.

I admit I haven't had much investigation but the most glaring examples I've seen are Argentinian loadouts during the Falklands and some of the Iranian aircraft load outs from the "Israel Strikes" scenario. Of course there are numerous reference articles to research there but I wonder about modern loadouts.

My complaint is most of the historical loadouts available for most nations I have investigated are literally from the "brochures" and do not reflect realistic historical war loads that were carried. I also am troubled by no Snakeye/High Drag loadouts which would increase accuracy and survivability for low alt delivery nor the heavy LDGP loadouts for Su27 types.

I don't know if the OOB's are based on Wikipedia or not but if I'm wrong I want someone to show me proof any A-4C in the Malvinas ever lifted off with a thousand pounder centerline with 2 500 pounders outboard. I have 4 aviation armorer friends from Rio Grande in the 80's that will confirm it never happened despite what you might read on Wikipedia. To get the range needed they carried 2 500 lbers and even then they needed aerial refueling. The Daggers could get away with a pair of 1000 lbers at times with drop tanks and could maintain a high speed at low level to escape quickly.

You said you are new here, so just small words of advice:

Please take just a few minutes to peruse the different forums within CMANO. You will find many contributors here (such as myself) who've done and seen what is simulated in this program. Aircrew members, sub and ship crew, industry reps who design and build the equipment simulated in this program, from various nationalities, who have, in both peace and war, saw firsthand the type of operations represented in this simulation.

Our input to this program has, and still is, soaked up by the creators of this wonderful program, and tweak it so that it will simulate (better than anything available in the open market and probably the classified world) "Modern Air/Naval Operations". [&o]

Read through these forums and you will frequently find such inputs as "As a pilot on XX aircraft, we would…" and "back in the 80's when I served aboard XX attack submarine, we had the capability to…"

The authors of this sim are not some weekend ametures who just wrote a program from some info from Janes and watched "Top Gun".

For the record, I served four years as an aircraft mechanic and 16 years as an intelligence analyst, mission planner, and weapons and targeting specialist (e.g. I determined what type of weapon should be loaded on what platform to hit what target) in the US Air Force and have done the job in combat. And my experience doesn't even begin to hold a candle to the knowledge, experience, and expertise of some of the members on here.

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ORIGINAL: AFIntel

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ORIGINAL: .Sirius
Hi my experience is over 35 years service in the Royal Navy and still serving experience is the Falklands War as 20mm aimer on HMS Plymouth both Gulf Wars, Former Yugoslavia Conflict and numourous other things which dont appear in the press, my qualifications are ex Aircraft Controller including Forward Air Controller, Radar and Weapons Systems Director including Datalinks

Man, I'd love to buy you some beers and pick your brain! [:D][&o]

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I don't know if the OOB's are based on Wikipedia or not but if I'm wrong I want someone to show me proof any A-4C in the Malvinas ever lifted off with a thousand pounder centerline with 2 500 pounders outboard. I have 4 aviation armorer friends from Rio Grande in the 80's that will confirm it never happened despite what you might read on Wikipedia. To get the range needed they carried 2 500 lbers and even then they needed aerial refueling. The Daggers could get away with a pair of 1000 lbers at times with drop tanks and could maintain a high speed at low level to escape quickly.