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PzB74 -> Vistula scenario 1945 (12/18/2014 8:06:43 AM)

Which difficult settings should I use to make this a challenging and interesting game against the Russian AI?



PzB74 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/19/2014 6:01:59 AM)

After 10 turns the AI has lost the battle...problem is that it's difficult to know which settings are required for a tough game against the AI.
Assume that all games must be at least challenging and when the AI is attacking Hard or Death wish is needed for it to have a chance of winning.



morvael -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/19/2014 8:26:06 AM)

I didn't know that the AI was even able to lose Vistula to Berlin scenario [:)] For sure you have to increase the difficulty if you play vs the AI. IMHO it's better to play human on normal, though. Humans cheat less than AI [:D]



PzB74 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/19/2014 9:24:56 AM)

All scenarios needs recommended difficult settings for playing AI as Axis or USSR.
I was in doubt whether the AI playing USSR in the Vistula scenario would be so overwhelming that Normal difficulty was enough.
After 10 turns the AI had 0 victory objectives and would most likely never get even close to the Oder.

To give it a fighting chance to reach Berlin I think HARD is required.



rjs28023 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/19/2014 2:37:56 PM)

PzB,

I will play as Soviets PBEM. I too have stymied the Soviet AI on Normal settings.

I will give you a fight PBEM.

Let me know if you want to play.

Randy



PzB74 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 4:49:55 PM)

Sure, not played pbem before - been learning the ropes against the AI but should be able to retreat all the way to the Elbe in style!-)
Drop me a note and suggest settings and potential house rules.

Been reading Tissiers book "With our back to Berlin".
It's perfect to combine with a run through of scenarios like this!



rjs28023 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 6:23:19 PM)


John,

I was the guy who made the changes to Vistula to Berlin with Trey's and Dominik's approval. There were some items on the Soviet side that I missed as I was focused more on the German side. In any event, I have made some changes to my Scenario file that comes with 1.08.01beta.

They are below and the rationale for them is noted. If you agree I will send you my Scenario file and we can get under way. If you don't agree I change them back so we can get started.

I reduced the number of Yak-9D air units from 35 to 9. (A drop of 26 air units) This aircraft became available in March 43 and is produced until September 45 @ 20 a week.
I increased the number of Yak-9DD air units from 0 to 1. This aircraft is first produced in May 44 and is produced until August 45 @ 6 per week.
I increased the number of Yak-9U from 0 to 25. This aircraft first became available in April 44 and is produced until July 45 @ 57 a week
The number of Yak-9 air units remained the same only the type changed to reflect the much higher production of the Yak-9U.
The Yak-9U is a better plane than the Yak-9D, but I made the changes to be more historically accurate.

I reduced the number of Yak-7B air units from 6 to 0. The Yak-7B went out of production in April 44. These 6 air units went to the upgrade Yak-9M.
I increased the number of Yak-9M units from 10 to 16 (explained above)

I reduced the number of IS2 M1943 tank units from 29 to 22. This vehicle went out of production in June 44.
I increased the number of IS2 M1944 tank units from 0 to 7. This vehicle became available in July 44 @ 54 a week.

I reduced the number of SU-85 units from 17 to 6. The SU-85 went out of production in June 44.
I increased the number of SU-85M units from 0 to 11. The SU-85M was produced from July to November 44.

That is all of the additional changes I made to 1.08.01beta.

If you are good with that then we can begin.

I have just completed my Soviet Turn 1 against the AI so I sort of know what is coming your way.

I am not a "gamey player", and will not surround any of your panzer divisions on Turn 1, but I will try to reduce them to kampfgruppen! Some of your infantry divisions will be surrounded and isolated on Turn 1, XXXXII Korps/4th Panzer Army for example. Those divisions historically were smashed and surrendered so that again is historical. In my game against the AI I made progress in Courland, but I will not advance of Turn 1 in Courland, but I will try and destroy your fortified line. You should not be in that bad of shape at the end of my Turn 1, but I will be poised to wreck havoc on my Turn 2.

My name is Randy Seger
I live in Houston, Texas USA (Central Time Zone)
My email is rjseger@comcast.net.

Please e-mail me at home and I will send you my scenario file. Remember, this is 1.08.01beta.

Thanks,

Randy







morvael -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 6:59:36 PM)

Hi Randy,

You can always send your updated file for inclusion in 1.08.02. But you don't have to hurry, the work on it has just started.



rjs28023 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 7:31:33 PM)

Dominik,

I am still researching whether Soviet Cavalry Corps had the M4A2 Sherman 75mm instead of the T34M1942. I know some of the Cavalry Corps had them, and it would be cooler to get some Sherman 75's in the scenario.

Randy



PzB74 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 9:36:43 PM)

Thx Randy,

Sounds like you're the man to discuss the Vistula operation with! [;)]
Should be able to do 1 turn a day - but first turn tomorrow evening, Xmas shopping and kids stole my day today.

I'm from Norway, so we got an 8 hour time difference.
Looking forward to the game and my defense of Berlin [:D]



morvael -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 9:47:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rjs28023

Dominik,

I am still researching whether Soviet Cavalry Corps had the M4A2 Sherman 75mm instead of the T34M1942. I know some of the Cavalry Corps had them, and it would be cooler to get some Sherman 75's in the scenario.

Randy


I only know that some Mechanized Corps used those tanks.



rjs28023 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 10:10:20 PM)

John,

Give me your e-mail and I will send you the Scenario File.

Set up Human v Human, PBEB Box Checked.

You choose an Axis Password.

Start Game. Save and send me the file as I have the 1st Turn.

Pretty sure that how it works.

Lock HQ Support.

FOG of War your call.

Randy



PzB74 -> RE: Vistula scenario 1945 (12/20/2014 10:24:59 PM)

Done,

Will be interesting to see if Courland Pocket can be held and if hanging around in Memel for the VP is a pure waste of good troops.
I'm curious whether an all out evacuation is a must or if its possible to try a defense.
- I also like playing historical whenever possible instead of being "gamey".




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