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RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 2:25:50 PM)
So then the only thing that you could really do is to suggest a therapist. Then they have to find out if the insurance will cover the therapist or if the therapist will accept the insurance. Fun times for all. BTW, how is that California Budget Deficit going?

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 3:45:02 PM)
**************April 26********* Jap cruisers bombard Taytay on Palawan, sinking 3 LCT's hiding in among the palms. Too bad. The LCT's were getting through to Bataan.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 3:58:26 PM)
**********April 27********* IJA sends two full divisions across the river East of Padang, just barely achieves a 2:1 in a shock attack but the tired Indians and the Aussie brigade fold and retreat. The support units get murdered. We suffer 4000 casualties (almost all disablements) and lose several unit remnants of engineers. This is really bad. It means Padang is toast as well. I start everyone pulling back toward Pakangbaroe or Benkalis. Don't say anything to Mr. Curtin

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 4:12:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe So then the only thing that you could really do is to suggest a therapist. Then they have to find out if the insurance will cover the therapist or if the therapist will accept the insurance. Fun times for all. BTW, how is that California Budget Deficit going? California had a large "rainy day reserve fund" which we blew through in March. We also blew through the state unemployment insurance reserves. We have a mandated balanced budget so now the devil has come for the souls. Usually what happens is we let more prisoners out of state prisons and raise taxes again and steal some from funds usually allocated to cities or funds from some bond measure for some stupid purpose approved by the voters. This time the main strategy seems to be wait for November and see who wins and then try to extract more money from the federal government. You will note state funds to sort of fund MediCal for the "undocumented" have not been halted. Neither has quite a giant fund to pay for $600K a unit condos for the "unhoused". It seems it is a good time to be an "un-something". I have thought quite a bit about moving to Texas or Florida or Wyoming to be an "un-taxpayer"

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 5:51:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe So then the only thing that you could really do is to suggest a therapist. Then they have to find out if the insurance will cover the therapist or if the therapist will accept the insurance. Fun times for all. BTW, how is that California Budget Deficit going? California had a large "rainy day reserve fund" which we blew through in March. We also blew through the state unemployment insurance reserves. We have a mandated balanced budget so now the devil has come for the souls. Usually what happens is we let more prisoners out of state prisons and raise taxes again and steal some from funds usually allocated to cities or funds from some bond measure for some stupid purpose approved by the voters. This time the main strategy seems to be wait for November and see who wins and then try to extract more money from the federal government. You will note state funds to sort of fund MediCal for the "undocumented" have not been halted. Neither has quite a giant fund to pay for $600K a unit condos for the "unhoused". It seems it is a good time to be an "un-something". I have thought quite a bit about moving to Texas or Florida or Wyoming to be an "un-taxpayer" The last part sounds like a good idea. Of course, I don't bother to pay any income taxes myself. [8\|] If the state of California wanted more money, drill for oil. I understand that it is bubbling up onto the streets and sidewalks of LA, not to mention the tar balls floating ashore from the seepage from under the ocean.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 7:34:55 PM)
What is the smallest AF a transport A/C can operate from to perform supply or paradrop missions? I tried to look it up....really.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 7:46:14 PM)
I think level 2, I will check in a few minutes.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 8:31:54 PM)
For bombers, 9.4 AIRFIELDS: quote: Airfields accommodate, repair and resupply air units, and serve as a point from which to launch air strikes. Airfield size has many effects. It is easier to damage and destroy aircraft on the ground at smaller airfields (less dispersion). It is also more likely that planes will suffer operational losses when landing at smaller airfields. Level bombers require an airfield equal to size 4 + (bomb load / 6500) rounded down. So, a B29 requires a size 7 airfield to avoid the penalties. Light bombers require a starting airfield of 2 rather than 4.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 9:01:32 PM)
Level 2 is my working idea because it seems a C-47 will neither drop paras or supply from a level 1

Walloc -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 9:10:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Level 2 is my working idea because it seems a C-47 will neither drop paras or supply from a level 1 You cant fly offensive missions from a level 1 airfield.

witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 10:14:03 PM)
Paradrops can only go as far as the normal range of the aircraft.

BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 10:21:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Walloc quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Level 2 is my working idea because it seems a C-47 will neither drop paras or supply from a level 1 You cant fly offensive missions from a level 1 airfield. I am sure Cap will use only the most polite pilots ...

BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 10:25:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Level 2 is my working idea because it seems a C-47 will neither drop paras or supply from a level 1 From your starting level 2, also apply the load formula, substituting payload for bomb load/6500. I have some converted Liberator transports that carry more than C-47s, so the calculation for them would be level 4 + the payload/6500.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 10:34:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Level 2 is my working idea because it seems a C-47 will neither drop paras or supply from a level 1 Neither of those would be a defensive mission like CAP which is allowed from a level 1 field. But the C-47s may not be able to fly at extended ranges. Now to move some paras there if he has left bases ungarrisoned behind him. [;)]

witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 11:00:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake Level 2 is my working idea because it seems a C-47 will neither drop paras or supply from a level 1 Neither of those would be a defensive mission like CAP which is allowed from a level 1 field. But the C-47s may not be able to fly at extended ranges. Now to move some paras there if he has left bases ungarrisoned behind him. [;)] You cannot drop paras at extended range anyway.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 11:45:41 PM)
Maybe you can't drop them from C-47s, but maybe he has some Cats available? Then they can pick up the paratroopers after they capture the base?

witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/12/2020 11:59:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Maybe you can't drop them from C-47s, but maybe he has some Cats available? Then they can pick up the paratroopers after they capture the base? They also can't do extended range, but since their normal range is greater that works pretty good.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 12:30:25 AM)
You can't drop paras from Cats but you can do a transfer at extreme ranges. It has to be a coastal hex.

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 12:34:11 AM)
Why can't you drop paratroops from Cats? I know that you can transfer or pick up at extreme ranges.

witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 1:22:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Why can't you drop paratroops from Cats? I know that you can transfer or pick up at extreme ranges. You can drop paras from cats. Or maybe only if it's a coastal hex? I have to check on that. The thing is, I know if it's an enemy base on a coastal hex they have to be paras. That I confirmed recently.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 5:13:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Why can't you drop paratroops from Cats? I know that you can transfer or pick up at extreme ranges. You can drop paras from cats. Or maybe only if it's a coastal hex? I have to check on that. The thing is, I know if it's an enemy base on a coastal hex they have to be paras. That I confirmed recently. How do we know they aren't landing and then going ashore in rubber rafts? [:)]

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 5:15:44 PM)
********************April 28. 1943(e)**************** New Guinea:** Japs bring more troops ashore at Biak. The guys do NOT give up. quote: Invasion Support action off Biak (87,110) 103 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships PB Ikuta Maru PB Hokutai Maru PB Kiso Maru xAK Awajisan Maru Japanese ground losses: 55 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

RangerJoe -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 5:21:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Why can't you drop paratroops from Cats? I know that you can transfer or pick up at extreme ranges. You can drop paras from cats. Or maybe only if it's a coastal hex? I have to check on that. The thing is, I know if it's an enemy base on a coastal hex they have to be paras. That I confirmed recently. How do we know they aren't landing and then going ashore in rubber rafts? [:)] Because there is no auto bombardment.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 7:15:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Why can't you drop paratroops from Cats? I know that you can transfer or pick up at extreme ranges. You can drop paras from cats. Or maybe only if it's a coastal hex? I have to check on that. The thing is, I know if it's an enemy base on a coastal hex they have to be paras. That I confirmed recently. How do we know they aren't landing and then going ashore in rubber rafts? [:)] Because there is no auto bombardment. You mean you actually tried it? How many PBY's would you need to carry enough paras to seize a defended base with the heavy weapons necessary to auto-bombard? By ra way...is there automatic shock attack?

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 7:18:10 PM)
PI: I try to run in a Large Slow Target to Bataan. It proves to be large and slow and 800 tons of ammo goes into the drink....but we probably finish off the last Lilly squadron. quote: Morning Air attack on TF, near Culion at 76,80 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-48-IIb Lily x 31 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk III x 3 Kittyhawk I x 1 F4U-1 Corsair x 2 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48-IIb Lily: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships LST-466, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb 4 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb 4 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 7:20:36 PM)
Siam: JJ tests our strength at Pakse. In the lull, we have brought up some heavy weapons. They are nowhere close to having enough to take the place yet. quote: Ground combat at Pakse (63,64) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 44242 troops, 365 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 1395 Defending force 41111 troops, 659 guns, 448 vehicles, Assault Value = 1286 Japanese ground losses: 129 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: Guards Mixed Brigade 37th Division 21st Division 11th Division 8th Tank Regiment 47th Naval Guard Unit Defending units: 46th Indian Brigade 19th Indian/A Division 19th Indian/B Division 70th British Division 77th LRP Brigade 29th British Brigade 50th Indian Para Brigade 99th Indian Brigade 17th Australian Brigade 25th Indian/B Division 1st AA Bde 51st Base Group 2/4th Light AA Regiment 78th Light AA Regiment 81st Base Group /1

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 7:24:26 PM)
Bealzebob & Peleliu: Bealzy has 24K LYB's and bombers and fighters and even cruisers in port. Peleliu has 3K troops...may a naval guard unit of SNLF. There are transports there every day. They are reinforcing Bealzy.

witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 7:55:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake quote: ORIGINAL: witpqs quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Why can't you drop paratroops from Cats? I know that you can transfer or pick up at extreme ranges. You can drop paras from cats. Or maybe only if it's a coastal hex? I have to check on that. The thing is, I know if it's an enemy base on a coastal hex they have to be paras. That I confirmed recently. How do we know they aren't landing and then going ashore in rubber rafts? [:)] Because there is no auto bombardment. You mean you actually tried it? How many PBY's would you need to carry enough paras to seize a defended base with the heavy weapons necessary to auto-bombard? By ra way...is there automatic shock attack? Yes.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 9:24:36 PM)
Hmm. It begs the question has anyone ever taken a defended base with purely PBY-jumping paras?

Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (9/13/2020 9:26:59 PM)
If you had enough Emily's you could take Bakersfield from Paramashiro Jima. Imagine the shock when the 1st Raiding Regiment entered the Walmart and noticed nobody had shoes on.

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