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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/15/2015 10:33:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Itdepends

It's pretty easy to cut Darwin off from supplies (and retreat) by landing at Whyndham, Derby etc. Are you sure you want to put the 18th that far north?


That you would have to take up with Admiral Lord SPrior [:)] No fun to have the Raiding Reginment land behind you either. Otherwise the 18th could fall back on a landing at Wyndham.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 7:30:49 PM)

************January 1, 1942(e)**********

Sea of Okhotsk: Egress seems to go well. We run into a couple of AK's near P-J and sink them. No air or sub attacks.
Now, to run and hide before Jap carriers show up.

New and Improved Guinea: 33rd Div is landing at PM. Landings also at Buna and Milne Bay.

We try to fight back. Looks like Ryujo is around somewhere.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson III (LR): 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Ryujo-1/B with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1/C with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 7:32:18 PM)

Nice raid. At least we hit something with troops on it. Nicer would have been Ryujo.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 17
P-40E Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
A-24 Banshee: 2 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
xAP Kamakura Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CA Kinugasa

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Hard to hit a Jap DD from a passenger airliner.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb


These A-24 pilots are pretty damn green.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Mochizuki


Pretty cool..although transports at PM would have been nicer.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Buna at 99,129

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Sado Maru
TB Kari
AK Hirokawa Maru, Bomb hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled






Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 7:37:14 PM)

Afternoon attacks. The CAP is getting tired. We left the cute stewardesses behind.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Oboro

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb


We go after a BB

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Fergusson Island at 102,132

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 13

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 5 damaged
A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
CL Kitakami




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 7:40:18 PM)

33rd Div is not completely ashore. We might be able to leave the A-24's there another turn.

Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2906 troops, 42 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Defending force 2661 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 159

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
30th Australian Brigade
Lark Force /1
505th Base Sqdn
14th RAAF Base Sqdn
Papuan Inf Battalion
13th Fld RAA Regiment
Moresby RAN Stn Base Force
Del Monte AAF Base Force /3

Defending units:
33rd Div /2




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 7:42:40 PM)

Why did they land all these heavy guns at Buna? Are they going to drag them over the mountain?

Ground combat at Buna (99,129)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 808 troops, 33 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 14

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Buna !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion





Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 7:47:44 PM)

We do need a speed bump at PM to get ready elsewhere.

Malaysia: Apparently, there was some quid pro quo with the King of Siam regarding Georgetown.

Ground combat at Georgetown (49,74)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7465 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 311

Defending force 19323 troops, 133 guns, 53 vehicles, Assault Value = 539

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
41st Guard Battalion
6th RTA/A Division
14th Tank Regiment
6th RTA/B Division
6th RTA/C Division
1st RTA/C Division

Defending units:
15th Indian Brigade
6th Indian Brigade
5/14th Punjab Battalion
FMSV Brigade
28th Gurkha Brigade
1st Mysore Battalion
3rd SSVF Battalion
8th Indian Brigade
2/215th Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment
110th RAF Adv Base Force
2nd ISF Base Force
223 Group RAF
109th RAF Adv Base Force
109th RN Base Force




witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 8:59:54 PM)

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************January 1, 1942(e)**********

Sea of Okhotsk: Egress seems to go well. We run into a couple of AK's near P-J and sink them. No air or sub attacks.
Now, to run and hide before Jap carriers show up.


But why would Jap carriers show up? They're probably happy to know the USN battleships are up there not hurting anything. [:'(]




desicat -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/17/2015 9:04:19 PM)

At this point they would never expect the BB's to turn around and strike their initial intended target, what a surprise that would be! Of course they wouldn't expect the Spanish Inquisition either......




Itdepends -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/18/2015 8:46:05 AM)

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/18/2015 1:43:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: witpqs

quote:

************January 1, 1942(e)**********

Sea of Okhotsk: Egress seems to go well. We run into a couple of AK's near P-J and sink them. No air or sub attacks.
Now, to run and hide before Jap carriers show up.


But why would Jap carriers show up? They're probably happy to know the USN battleships are up there not hurting anything. [:'(]


Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word 'safe' that I wasn't previously aware of. [:)]


Admiral D. Adams.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/18/2015 1:46:42 PM)

"Hey, why don't we send the carriers North of New and Improved New Britain and ambush the Jap surface forces?"

FAM

The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.


Admiral D Adams




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/18/2015 1:49:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: witpqs

quote:

ORIGINAL: Itdepends

It's pretty easy to cut Darwin off from supplies (and retreat) by landing at Whyndham, Derby etc. Are you sure you want to put the 18th that far north?

Doesn't really matter - the way this works it's either brilliant or the staff's fault! [:D]


He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/18/2015 1:54:45 PM)

The Allied ships floated in the Coral Sea in much the same way that bricks don't.




witpqs -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/18/2015 3:04:04 PM)

[:D]

The FA is drunk on the elixir of life. Bravo!




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:14:14 PM)

*************************January 2, 1942(e)************************

Java-jima: The noose is tightening on Batavia. We get the planes out except for a few uglo-seaplanes that look like they have parts of the Brooklyn Bridge welded onto their fuselage.

JJ are still held up at Samarang in the south. Getting most of the planes out of Soerabaja too.
Some of the Dutch fighters are in Borneo supporting a run up to the oilfields by a Dutch SCTF. All of the USAAF fighters out of Java-jima now.


Georgetown: Pressure is mounting. They are all future railroad construction engineers but don't know it yet.

Port Moresby: The A-24's with peach-fuzz pilots don't hit anything important. The part of 33rd Div ashore shock attacks and achieves 1:1. We take the brunt of the casualties. Port Moresby is toast. We get all the planes out. Not much of a speed bump but what can you do when 33rd and 4th Div are attacking together in the South Pacific.





Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:18:35 PM)

****************January 3, 1942(e)************

Wow..that was fast.

PM: This is pretty funny. USS William B. Preston was at PM supporting the PBY's. She has to get out. She gets underway at night and scares away the convoy unloading 33rd Div. [:)]


Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 98,130, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hakaze
AMC Awata Maru
xAK Nissan Maru
xAK Sinsei Maru
AMC Saigon Maru
xAK India Maru
xAK Victoria Maru
xAP Argentina Maru
xAP Hie Maru
xAP Yoshino Maru
xAP Atsuta Maru
xAP Kanzyu Maru
xAP Montevideo Maru
xAP Teikyo Maru
xAP Baikal Maru

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 100% moonlight: 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Allied ships attempt to get underway
Both TF attempt to withdraw!
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:23:24 PM)

This is just a war crime. We were about ready to give up but JJ has to blow up all the poor headhunters AND the cricket field. They can't help themselves. Their brains are smaller....well, that's what I heard.

Night Naval bombardment of Port Moresby at 98,130

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
CL Yura
CL Nagara
DD Yamagumo
DD Yukikaze
DD Kuroshio

Allied ground losses:
1160 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 45 destroyed, 86 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 23 (6 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 46
Port hits 17
Port supply hits 5


Then they send in a bunch of bombers to blow up the shrunken-head museum, a key cultural artifact of New and Improved Guinea. Little yellow baaahstards. And then, after all that...no ground attack.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:30:21 PM)

Borneo: JJ posted some DD's at Balikpapan after our previous attack so we fool them...we no show up...go to Samarinda instead.

We break some planes and the runways but no oil hits. De Ruyter recovers toward Tarakan to refuel then it will be on to Manila for ammo. Disappointingly, there are no DD torps to be had at Manila
No catastrophic damage but if they are going to leave bases working in their rear areas, we will use them.

Night Naval bombardment of Samarinda at 65,96

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 6 damaged
A5M4 Claude: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter
DD Banckert
DD Witte de With
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 53
Port hits 13
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 3




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:33:43 PM)

A USN SCTF with Marblehead and some DD's just rearmed at Manila and is headed for Miri. We spot a transport on the North coast of Borneo and detach a torpedoless USS Stewart, which manages to do quite a bit of damage, wrecking some combat unit.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Kudat at 69,86, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
TB Kasasagi, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Nojima Maru, Shell hits 29, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Stewart

Japanese ground losses:
551 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:36:19 PM)

Malaysia: Various brown men with albino officers refuse to give up at Georgetown.

Ground combat at Georgetown (49,74)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11031 troops, 71 guns, 83 vehicles, Assault Value = 414

Defending force 19304 troops, 133 guns, 53 vehicles, Assault Value = 544

Japanese adjusted assault: 87

Allied adjusted defense: 220

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
677 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 182 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
218 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
14th Tank Regiment
6th RTA Division
7th RTA/B Division
41st Guard Battalion
1st RTA/B Division
1st RTA/C Division

Defending units:
3rd SSVF Battalion
28th Gurkha Brigade
5/14th Punjab Battalion
6th Indian Brigade
1st Mysore Battalion
15th Indian Brigade
FMSV Brigade
8th Indian Brigade
2/215th Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment
223 Group RAF
110th RAF Adv Base Force
Penang Fortress
2nd ISF Base Force
109th RAF Adv Base Force
109th RN Base Force
137/155th Field Regiment




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:40:42 PM)

WHAT!?

Goddamn vermin! I hope they all lost their coke bottle glasses when they jumped! Time to get the aircraft out of Cairns.
Somewhat humorous that the CO of 13th RAAF Base Squadron is superior to the WJD paratroop CO.

Ground combat at Cairns (92,140)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 53 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Defending force 450 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 2

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /2

Defending units:
13th RAAF Base Sqdn




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 4:42:50 PM)

Batavia: 1st attack at Batavia

Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24846 troops, 163 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 772

Defending force 11370 troops, 150 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 226

Japanese adjusted assault: 391

Allied adjusted defense: 325

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1947 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 172 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
865 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 17 (3 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
113th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
II/124th Infantry Battalion
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
65th Brigade
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
Sasebo 3rd SNLF /1
56th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
XII KNIL Battalion
1st Cav Sqdn
I Marechausse Cdo
XI KNIL Battalion
X KNIL Battalion
I Landstorm Cdo
2nd Cav Sqdn
IV Landstorm Cdo
2e-VLG-III Sup Afd
Batavia KM Base Force
3e-VLG-III Sup Afd
A-I-Ld AA Battalion
HQ I KNIL Division
ML-KNIL
3e-VLG-V Sup Afd
A-III-Ld AA Battalion
Batavia Defenses
Andir ML Base Force
2e-VLG-V Sup Afd
1e-VLG-III Sup Afd
VkA-1 Sup Afd




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 5:06:53 PM)

**************Control Tower, Cairns Aerodrome, Jan. 3************

Lt Col. Gardner: THERE'S A COUPLE, LADS. <aims Lewis gun and lets loose a short burst> MY GOD THIS IS A SPLENDID GOOD TIME! COME ON OUT YOU LITTLE YELLOW BAAAHSARDS
<turns to soldier next to him> Cpl. Jones, you don't suppose they've run out do you?




Onime No Kyo -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 6:54:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake


Goddamn vermin! I hope they all lost their coke bottle glasses when they jumped! Time to get the aircraft out of Cairns.



Its obvious that they want to have first crack (pardon the expression) at the busty white women before the Yankees arrive.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 8:00:20 PM)

***************Briefing Room, Canberra, January 3, 1942(e)**********


Mr. Curtin: Cairns? Why on earth would anyone invade there? Do we have any key facilities there?

Aide: 6000 ft macadam runway....radar, older model...smallish harbour.

Public Health advisor: It might be the women, sir. They are said to have ample bossoms. Something about hormones in the milk apparently.

Mr. Curtin: Good God! You may be right. GET THEM OUT, ALL OF THEM! Tell that Gardner fellow he must hold!




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 8:07:27 PM)

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 8:11:05 PM)

Man, this stuff is bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.[:D]

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 8:13:29 PM)

[:D][:D] Seems like they are a pretty happy group despite their affliction.

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (2/24/2015 8:28:02 PM)

******************Train Station, Cairns, 18:20, Jan 3, 1942(e)**************

<a chaotic scene of near panic. A long line of curiously attractive young women with large bossoms are boarding a train car for the trip South. A group of soldiers look on>


Lt. Thistlethwaite, RAAF: Right then! Lads, I'll need a volunteer to guard the civilians. It might be dangerous. Any takers?




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