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Alfred -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/13/2020 7:59:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Glide bombing is out? I just learned about it and it's already gone


Glide bombing remains in the game.

Level bombers never could glide bomb. Torpedo bombers were subsequently added to the list of aircraft types which couldn't glide bomb. The exit altitude after a glide bomb attack is 2-5k.

Alfred




BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/13/2020 8:17:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Alfred


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Glide bombing is out? I just learned about it and it's already gone


Glide bombing remains in the game.

Level bombers never could glide bomb. Torpedo bombers were subsequently added to the list of aircraft types which couldn't glide bomb. The exit altitude after a glide bomb attack is 2-5k.

Alfred

This is news! I distinctly recall one of the updates about six years ago (the one that changed low level bombing threshold from 5999 to 1999) saying glide bombing was deleted to simplify the air combat model somewhat. It was almost never used by players anyway. I will look for the patch notes ...

EDIT: checked the patch notes - nothing about the air model revamp there. I suppose it was not a patch update, but a game version update done by the Air Combat programmers. Will try to find it.

EDIT2: Could not find the specific reference. There was a thread in November 2009 about the latest release of the game having glide bombing above 10,000 feet but a whole lot of non-level bomber aircraft could do it, including fighters. There was another thread in March 2012 that talked about glide bombing no longer being available to TBs. And then there was a 69 page thread on the Air Combat Model hosted by The Elf from 2007 on. I confess I did not read every page because it was not about patches, just development of the original model for game release.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 7:45:26 PM)

Is the "Fat Boy" cheat code still active?

Go to Windows Settings...select Apps...Advanced...now find "Auto-pruning routines"...click "disable auto-pruning"..save and close

Now go to WITP-AE Editor and for device 248 substitute "Fat Boy" (without the quotes). Save and exit.

Now on a new start-up or with password change enter "Oppy" (again without the quotes..case sensitive) save and exit. This disables the database checksum routine so the opponent does not get an incompatibility message.

Reboot and you will have 12KT warheads in 1941. You will get about 1 warhead a month.*







*Don't really try this.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 7:48:06 PM)

******************June 1, 1943(e)***************

New Guinea: Landing at Manokwari begins.

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Night Naval bombardment of Manokwari at 85,109

Allied Ships
CA Canberra
DD Barton
DD Stanly

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Runway hits 4
Port hits 19
Port supply hits 1




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 7:50:21 PM)

Somebody was not paying attention during the Minderbinder Enterprises Water-Wing demo

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Amphibious Assault at Manokwari (85,109)

TF 48 troops unloading over beach at Manokwari, 85,109

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)

11 troops of a Aus Inf Sect 42 lost in surf during unload of 30th Australian Bde /7




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 7:54:09 PM)

Tojos flying LRCAP over Manokwari. It has to be a long flight.

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Morning Air attack on 62nd Infantry Brigade, at 85,109 (Manokwari)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 18

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 7:56:08 PM)

First wave gets ashore in good order thanks to LCT's and LST's. 30th Aus is rebuilt after being destroyed in New Britain in January 42

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Ground combat at Manokwari (85,109)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2977 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 102

Defending force 1884 troops, 40 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 168

Assaulting units:
62nd Infantry Brigade
42nd JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
30th Australian Brigade




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 8:00:14 PM)

Luzon: No air cover and very little supply on Luzon. Everyone ordered back to Bataan. We will lose many in the retreat because the rearguard will get smashed.

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Morning Air attack on 182nd Infantry Regiment, at 79,76 (Clark Field)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 27
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 5
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Morning Air attack on 71st PA Infantry Division, at 79,76 (Clark Field)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


No carrier air attack today. The are probably responding to the New Guinea landing but they fell into a recon void.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 8:06:40 PM)

JJ has detected the withdrawal and pounces. They manage 1:1 as most of our guys are out of ammo and are just trying to get out.

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 30829 troops, 422 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 797

Defending force 23924 troops, 206 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 487

Japanese adjusted assault: 839

Allied adjusted defense: 448

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1176 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
672 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
10th Division
28th Division
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
71st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry/A Division
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
1st Constabulary Regiment
182nd Infantry Regiment
57th PS Infantry Regiment
91st PA Infantry Division
31st Infantry Regiment
4th Constabulary Regiment
11th PA Infantry/C Division
165th Field Artillery Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 8:11:02 PM)

Borneo: No fighters in Borneo as far as I can tell so I stage some B-24's at Koepang.

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Oil hits 10


It works! This is designed to pull resource away from the Central Pacific. Probably they will deduce they came from Koepang so we need to thin out the crowd there.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 8:22:15 PM)

Caroline Is: Truk AF is wrecked and we started bombing the port to make an invasion appear likely. We take Kosai Is. to try to force the LYB's to move assets to the Marshalls.

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Ground combat at Kusaie Island (125,118)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 27 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 2

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kusaie Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Parachute Bn /3




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 8:24:11 PM)

Java: CDO raids at Denpassar and just east of Soerabaja. I am surprised they didn't garrison Denpasar as it has a nice AF.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/15/2020 8:29:57 PM)

Laos: Big fight at Vientienne. JJ manages to shoot down some Vengeance...which is not uncommon. We don't have adequate AT guns for all the damned Ronsons they brought. I think the Indian Div arrived after the fight?

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Ground combat at Vientiane (62,57)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 17059 troops, 270 guns, 807 vehicles, Assault Value = 705

Defending force 11917 troops, 159 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 276

Japanese adjusted assault: 450

Allied adjusted defense: 382

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
665 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 40 (7 destroyed, 33 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
547 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 15 (6 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Division
3rd Tank Division
2nd RTA Division

Defending units:
26th Indian Brigade
26th Indian Division
823rd Aviation Engineer Battalion
3rd Pioneer Battalion






Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 12:00:28 AM)

Sumatra: Many more air attacks on Padang AF and some ineffectual attacks on the ground units marching down the coast.




Disco Duck -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 8:33:16 AM)

delete




Disco Duck -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 8:35:13 AM)

delete bad night on the editors.





*Don't really try this.
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Disco Duck -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 8:38:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Is the "Fat Boy" cheat code still active?

Go to Windows Settings...select Apps...Advanced...now find "Auto-pruning routines"...click "disable auto-pruning"..save and close

Now go to WITP-AE Editor and for device 248 substitute "Fat Boy" (without the quotes). Save and exit.

Now on a new start-up or with password change enter "Oppy" (again without the quotes..case sensitive) save and exit. This disables the database checksum routine so the opponent does not get an incompatibility message.

Reboot and you will have 12KT warheads in 1941. You will get about 1 warhead a month.*







*Don't really try this.



What are you going to use to drop them ? Lancasters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XX9ptCNpik




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 1:53:44 PM)

Very interesting. Didn't know that about the B-29 having two bomb bays. B-29 had quite a ceiling advantage on the Lancaster as I recall.




BBfanboy -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 3:42:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Very interesting. Didn't know that about the B-29 having two bomb bays. B-29 had quite a ceiling advantage on the Lancaster as I recall.

The B-29 had the first pressurized fuselage that enabled it to go higher and fly longer than other aircraft which had to provide oxygen to the crew above 10K feet. That feature alone was a huge R&D cost - figuring out how to accommodate the expansion and contraction of the fuselage skin as the outside air pressure changed. Some of the initial ops losses (from the China base experiment) may have been from pressurization or skin failure issues. Same with the long range transfers of the aircraft to operating bases.




Disco Duck -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 10:20:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Very interesting. Didn't know that about the B-29 having two bomb bays. B-29 had quite a ceiling advantage on the Lancaster as I recall.

The B-29 had the first pressurized fuselage that enabled it to go higher and fly longer than other aircraft which had to provide oxygen to the crew above 10K feet. That feature alone was a huge R&D cost - figuring out how to accommodate the expansion and contraction of the fuselage skin as the outside air pressure changed. Some of the initial ops losses (from the China base experiment) may have been from pressurization or skin failure issues. Same with the long range transfers of the aircraft to operating bases.



Can't find the link right now but the Germans had a passenger plane with pressurized cabins that they used like the U-2 and flew recon and nuisance bombing raids over England. The Brits finally modified a fighter to get that high but it's guns froze. The Germans quit flying the plane after that. It was the first dogfight at 40,000 feet.




anarchyintheuk -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/16/2020 10:33:43 PM)

Ju-86s




Disco Duck -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 2:46:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

Ju-86s


Correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDkj0ZYuiA




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:31:17 PM)

Dang...never heard that either. Supercharged diesel engines with Nitrous injection.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:33:39 PM)

***************June 2, 1843(e)*************

Sumatra: Too bad our recon missed these guys coming up the slot from Singers. The RN could have met them.

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Night Naval bombardment of Sabang at 44,70

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
DD Uranami
DD Isonami
DD Shinonome
DD Ikazuchi
DD Nenohi
DD Harusame

Allied ground losses:
270 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 30 (3 destroyed, 27 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 7
Port hits 37
Port supply hits 3




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:36:54 PM)

These lads had the dangerous job of minesweeping Langsa so the RN could start bombardments. Fortunatarry, Japan-mens arready run out of burrets.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Langsa at 46,73, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
DD Harusame
DD Nenohi
DD Ikazuchi
DD Shinonome
DD Isonami
DD Uranami

Allied Ships
YMS BYMS-2015
YMS BYMS-2043




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:38:52 PM)

Too much hubris. Guy flies all the way from Not So Great Nicobar to take on the Tojos.

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Morning Air attack on Sabang , at 44,70

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:41:22 PM)

Herens move up the coast to Georgetown perhaps and try to end the career of Pvt Idi Amin Dada.

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Morning Air attack on 22nd (East African) Brigade, at 45,73 , near Langsa

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 11 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 21st Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 22nd (East African) Bde /8 ...
Also attacking 21st Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 22nd (East African) Bde /8 ...


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Morning Air attack on 22nd (East African) Brigade, at 45,73 , near Langsa

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:52:40 PM)

Timor..the side the USMC took back from the Japs who took it from the Australians who took it from the Dutch who took it from the Timorese who took it from Homo erectus (no giggling, we are mostly adults here): JJ is angry about the attack on Balikpapan oil infrastructure which was stolen from Royal Dutch Shell. Staff retards forget to get the transports out. Everything else flyable moved out

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Morning Air attack on Koepang , at 68,116

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 31
G3M3 Nell x 34

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
C-47 Skytrain: 4 damaged
C-47 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground
Catalina I: 1 destroyed on ground
F-5A Lightning: 5 damaged
F-5A Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
R4D-1 Skytrain: 3 damaged
R4D-1 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 31




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:54:27 PM)

Cleanup...runway two!

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Morning Air attack on Koepang , at 68,116

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 29
G3M3 Nell x 36

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Koepang , at 68,116

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 57

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
C-47 Skytrain: 3 damaged
C-47 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground
F-5A Lightning: 4 damaged
A-29 Hudson: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
R4D-1 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 17




Cap Mandrake -> RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo (11/17/2020 12:57:48 PM)

Luzon: Surprise attack at Clark! (J/K)

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Morning Air attack on 102nd PA Infantry Regiment, at 79,76 (Clark Field)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 29
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disa


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Morning Air attack on 182nd Infantry Regiment, at 79,76 (Clark Field)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 20
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 4
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIb Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled




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